Would Sasuke Be a Better Jinchurkin then Naruto?

[Sot6p]

Saying it has to be Uzumaki wouldn't be exactly right...

Minato isn't Uzumaki, and yet, he seems to be handling the chakra very well..

Assuming Uchiha Massacre
I guess Sasuke wouldn't be a nice Jinchuuriki simply because he'd control Kurama.
He wouldn't be a partner.

Do you understand?
Kurama could, theoretically, steal chakra from Sasuke and kill him.
Besides, I don't think Sasuke would handle the hatred very well... It'd only increase his own.

So I guess he wouldn't be for these things...

But he'd have a better control over his emotions(Naruto's short-temper was something extremely bad for him. Sasuke, even though short tempered as well, has a lot more self control if compared to Naruto)
And his sharingan(fully developed, after shippuden) would be enough to stop power leaking through him.

The problem is: would he stop the leaking, or would he allow it because of his hatred?
Naruto wasn't able to control, it's true...
But when he was extremely angry, he would allow Kurama to take over. Even the cursed seal managed to influence Sasuke, imagine what Kurama would do. It'd actually be even worse, since he has a lot more hatred.

But yeah... If you compare current Sasuke + Kurama vs current Naruto, of course he'd be stronger.
But if you gave Naruto the sharingan, don't you think he'd automatically be stronger? He'd have senju DNA(being an Uzumaki) with insane life force(being an Uzumaki and having Kurama's Yang). He'd be able to use it well, unlike Kakashi(insane chakra drain). Remember how Tobi commented on Danzo's use of sharingan. It goes either way...
That's an incredibly weird comparison, assuming Kishimoto is making them equals purposefully.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Well this is hard question.... of course Sasuke would never be > Current Naruto if using just Jinchurki power(His sharingan powers excluded ) no matter what. Reason ?

Because Sasuke would never befriend Kurama and become Perfect Host...

Let's play in "What if"...

Young age:

Good scenario:

-Sasuke being talented would earn Kurama's respect fro boy at least. Besides He may try to control or just not let fox controll him using three tomoe sharingan

Bad Scenario:

- Sasuke being Uchiha and having sharingan could make Kurama even more angry trying to break Sasuke's spirit and take over his body due to overhelming hatred in Sasuke. Kurama would also try to Kill Sasuke for what Madara did to him.

Teen age:

Good scenario:

- Sasuke mastering three tomoe sharingan and being talented could make Kurama more proud about him and stop bothering him but just watch his progress

Bad scenario:

- Kurama would hinder Sasuke's progress and do everything to break Sasuke's spirit and take over...

Aftter all Sasuke as Kurama host with all sharingan powers(Sussano etc.) could be > Current Naruto as Kurama host but if by just Kurama Host then: Naruto > Sasuke.

Reason: Naruto coopearte with Kurama and mold their chakra together making it much more powerfull while Sasuke would have to force Kurama to do his binding draining himself from chakra... but not getting any boost to his stats...

 

[ssjsage]

Another thing I want to add to this thread is that Sasuke planned on becoming the Jinchuriki of the eight tails. This was made explicitly clear during Bee Capture arc.

I'm gonna need a scan before I believe that. I don't think he ever said that

 

[Smd]

he wouldn't be able to handle being kurama's jin he doesnt have amazing life-force like an uzumaki

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Saying it has to be Uzumaki wouldn't be exactly right...

Minato isn't Uzumaki, and yet, he seems to be handling the chakra very well..

I guess Sasuke wouldn't be a nice Jinchuuriki simply because he'd control Kurama.
He wouldn't be a partner.

Do you understand?
Kurama could, potentially, steal chakra from Sasuke and kill him.

bro, did you see what happen when sasuke first encounter kurama?

Sasuke would lose with his arensal and uchiha genjutsu.

all naruto could do was use one jutsu with a bunch of shadow clones.

He was bounded to fail w/o help.


i agree with you on the first part, some people just post lies to make themselves feel better about what they dont like

 

[Silverblade]

Nah man! you're all wrong. Only Hyuugas can be Jinchuurikis.

you motha****as reading the manga wrong.

 

[Touken]

Nope. Why was Kushina and then Mito brought to the village to seal Kurama unto themselves? This has a LOT to do with Uzumaki and their prowess with seals or Fuinjutsus. In fact, the sage created one single Jutsu which was passed on to this day and it was the sealing of bijuus. Going by your logic, ALL other people are unfit to become Jincuirikis, especially Obito, whose body doesn't posses a shred of Uzumaki Dna.

Another thing I want to add to this thread is that Sasuke planned on becoming the Jinchuriki of the eight tails. This was made explicitly clear during Bee Capture arc.

Not my logic, Kishi's logic. And Kushina was referring to Kurama by 'becoming a jinchuuriki'. Sasuke would handle becoming the jinchuuriki of any other Bijuu just fine, but not becoming the host of Kurama.

 

[Smd]

Well this is hard question.... of course Sasuke would never be > Current Naruto if using just Jinchurki power(His sharingan powers excluded ) no matter what. Reason ?

Because Sasuke would never befriend Kurama and become Perfect Host...

Let's play in "What if"...

Young age:

Good scenario:

-Sasuke being talented would earn Kurama's respect fro boy at least. Besides He may try to control or just not let fox controll him using three tomoe sharingan

Bad Scenario:

- Sasuke being Uchiha and having sharingan could make Kurama even more angry trying to break Sasuke's spirit and take over his body due to overhelming hatred in Sasuke. Kurama would also try to Kill Sasuke for what Madara did to him.

Teen age:

Good scenario:

- Sasuke mastering three tomoe sharingan and being talented could make Kurama more proud about him and stop bothering him but just watch his progress

Bad scenario:

- Kurama would hinder Sasuke's progress and do everything to break Sasuke's spirit and take over...

Aftter all Sasuke as Kurama host with all sharingan powers(Sussano etc.) could be > Current Naruto as Kurama host but if by just Kurama Host then: Naruto > Sasuke.

Reason: Naruto coopearte with Kurama and mold their chakra together making it much more powerfull while Sasuke would have to force Kurama to do his binding draining himself from chakra... but not getting any boost to his stats...

finally a logical response.

i agree...but i really think sasuke could effortlessly force kurama into molding the chakra and being able to use it.

Remember what obito did to a perfect jinchurkin and kurama and what madara did to kurama.

Sasuke has large charka resevers to.... compareable to madara now.

So i think he would be able to in the end..

appericate your comment tho

 

[General Lex]

Well this is hard question.... of course Sasuke would never be > Current Naruto if using just Jinchurki power(His sharingan powers excluded ) no matter what. Reason ?

Because Sasuke would never befriend Kurama and become Perfect Host...

Let's play in "What if"...

Young age:

Good scenario:

-Sasuke being talented would earn Kurama's respect fro boy at least. Besides He may try to control or just not let fox controll him using three tomoe sharingan

Bad Scenario:

- Sasuke being Uchiha and having sharingan could make Kurama even more angry trying to break Sasuke's spirit and take over his body due to overhelming hatred in Sasuke. Kurama would also try to Kill Sasuke for what Madara did to him.

Teen age:

Good scenario:

- Sasuke mastering three tomoe sharingan and being talented could make Kurama more proud about him and stop bothering him but just watch his progress

Bad scenario:

- Kurama would hinder Sasuke's progress and do everything to break Sasuke's spirit and take over...

Aftter all Sasuke as Kurama host with all sharingan powers(Sussano etc.) could be > Current Naruto as Kurama host but if by just Kurama Host then: Naruto > Sasuke.

Reason: Naruto coopearte with Kurama and mold their chakra together making it much more powerfull while Sasuke would have to force Kurama to do his binding draining himself from chakra... but not getting any boost to his stats...

I agree. People have to understand that being a jinchurki is more than demanding power. Sasuke would be successful at taking the power from the tailed beast but would never be in such a harmony where the tailed beast would literally mold chakras with him. It would be either using pure tailed beast power or using his own power. Naruto on the other hand is more powerful because he and Kurama are simultaneously using their power making it even more potent.

 

[Smd]

Nah man! you're all wrong. Only Hyuugas can be Jinchuurikis.

you motha****as reading the manga wrong.

bruh your wrong go re read manga

Only Ten Ten the wepon master can be a perfect jinchurkin
lol

 

[6ari8]

Sasuke would've been dead if he'd been a jinchuuriki as he didn't have enough chakra to suppress Kurama like Naruto. He would've died in a situation similar to the one Naruto was in against Haku or even before that.

Also, the only Uchiha who's been able to become a jinchuuriki has a half body made of Hashirama's cells who's known for his great chakra reserves so what's your point?

EDIT: and even when he did become a jinchuuriki with the help of Hashirama's cells, he was almost torn to pieces so no, Sasuke cannot handle Kurama as a jinchuuriki.

 

[Saskeu]

of course, sasuke can handle the juubi as well since hes on madara's level.

 

[KCMNaruto]

finally a logical response.

i agree...but i really think sasuke could effortlessly force kurama into molding the chakra and being able to use it.

Remember what obito did to a perfect jinchurkin and kurama and what madara did to kurama.

Sasuke has large charka resevers to.... compareable to madara now.

So i think he would be able to in the end..

appericate your comment tho

Thanks ! , but I hope you realized that bolded part is wrong.

The reason is simple you can't force someone to his full power while not draining your own in process... this is simple physically impossible... Sasuke need to use Genjutsu and powerfull one to put Kurama under his control and this takes chakra.

While Naruto not use or loose any bit of chakra because he does NOT need to force Kurama, he just mold his 100% Power/chakra with Kurama's so the result is much better.

But I agree that Sasuke has great reserves of chakra with ver powerfull quality but for sure with not quanity/amount on Naruto's level.

Also both Madara and Obito weren't capable of molding their own chakra with Kurama's to recieve most powerfull chakra... but just force Kurama to use it's own chakra aka using TBB.

That my point , I am also approving this thread glad we think alike from time to time

 

[Sot6p]

bro, did you see what happen when sasuke first encounter kurama?

Sasuke would lose with his arensal and uchiha genjutsu.

all naruto could do was use one jutsu with a bunch of shadow clones.

He was bounded to fail w/o help.


i agree with you on the first part, some people just post lies to make themselves feel better about what they dont like

But I'm talking about accepting the power.
Sasuke would accept the power because of his hatred. That's what would allow the fox to take over and kill him.

Sure, Sasuke would have the ability to subdue Kurama.
But what if he ALLOWED Kurama to take over?

As far as I know, he was influenced by the cursed seal. And he sought MORE power later.

Naruto did the opposite on part 2. He was trying his best to stop Kurama, but wasn't able to do so.
Sasuke would have the power, but he probably wouldn't stop Kurama. He willingly went to Orochimaru for power. That's the same thing, but with Kurama.

And you need MS to control Kurama like that.
You could subdue Kurama with three tomoe like what Sasuke did(there's probably a limit to it as well)
Can you see, though, Sasuke controlling Kurama without sharingan? He probably would've lost control at the day the massacre happened. He would have died as an eight years old. Or even later.

 

[TrollingSage]

Nope. Why was Kushina and then Mito brought to the village to seal Kurama unto themselves? This has a LOT to do with Uzumaki and their prowess with seals or Fuinjutsus.

I like how you just ignored the manga and went by your own assumptions. Kushina expressly stated that she was chosen because her chakra was suitable for hosting the nine tails.

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specially Obito, whose body doesn't posses a shred of Uzumaki Dna.

Obito has senju DNA

 

[Sevio2]

absolutely
in the sense that he would have had much better control over it's powers and would have gotten acclimated to them faster
but I don't think there would have been any friendship developed between them... maybe after the itachi fight, but probably not... soooo if being friends with your beast makes you a good jinchuriki then, most likely not

 

[shelke]

Not my logic, Kishi's logic. And Kushina was referring to Kurama by 'becoming a jinchuuriki'. Sasuke would handle becoming the jinchuuriki of any other Bijuu just fine, but not becoming the host of Kurama.

Didn't deny it, but to lump Uzumakis together without reason as to why it was so in the first place is fallacy. You are reading too much into it. Uzumakis are famous for their seals and Kurama's is obviously, different. Kurama could have been offered to any other country as well, but Hashirama CHOSE to keep it for political leverage.

Now if I go by your logic, the other countries would have to import Uzumakis for making Jinchurickis out of them? Hardly practical or reasonable. Anyone can become the host of the Bijuus, provided they have decent chakra reserves and body. If Obito can become the host of ten-tails - as I explained - without having any Uzumaki Dna, then this theory is quite wrong.

 

[Sevio2]

Yes, He would have been able to control kyuubi from the start , Imagine the rest

anecdotal
& obito is the 10 tails jinchuriki so...

 

[Sot6p]

You're just assuming the following:
- Take Kurama from current Naruto
- Give it to current Sasuke.
- Compare Kurama Naruto and Kurama Sasuke.

That's what you're doing. But, how can you be so sure Sasuke would survive to the age of 17 with Kurama?
- Sasuke had a lot more hatred than Naruto, that's a fact. Sasuke hated his brother. What if he snapped at the age of 8, when Itachi massacred the clan?
- He'd have bad influence from Kurama since a young age. He wouldn't have the sharingan and he wouldn't have the will to control that power at such young age.
- He, at the age of 12, barely could control the Cursed Seal level 1. Look how happy he was with it in part 1. Imagine that since the age of 8.
- You can't assume he would have the same training as what happened in cannon. You can't even assume he'd have the same personality. As far as I know, it isn't something completely genetic. Part of it comes from life experience. Personality also defines intelligence(or what seems like intelligence). His mind would be different. He would be different.

It's the exact same thing as Naruto without Kurama. How could we even consider that? We don't know how he would've turned out. We can't just remove it from current him and say that would be the final product. That'd be incredibly stupid.

It's also a matter of ALLOWING the power to control him. Naruto did that... Imagine with Sasuke's hatred.

 

[shelke]

I like how you just ignored the manga and went by your own assumptions. Kushina expressly stated that she was chosen because her chakra was suitable for hosting the nine tails.

Sorry, but I love how you completely ignored the 'Sealing Portion' as well. That chakra statement is very general and doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things. Nor has she even stated that ALL 'Uzumakis' are capable of this. The fact that Kushina were chosen from many others proves you wrong.

Yes, because Senju = Uzumaki, clearly. Loved the assumptions part. Icing on the cake.

 

[MickNerks]

Sasuke would have recklessly controlled kurama with his eyes. Naruto took the time to be his best friend. Not only did naruto make kurama his friend but now naruto has power from 8 of the 9 tailed beast.

Naruto is a better jinchuuriki, and has tamed the other bijuu as well.