Why people say Obito>Hashirama?

[Joseph Gomes]

The same guy who out ran a Bijūdama(which is easily Massively hypersonic...being above Mach 100) can't touch Obito?

Are you serious?​

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Where did you get that bijudama is hypersonic? Naruto characters don't mention how fast they're in m/s or km/hr. And Hashirama has not blitzed anybody in the manga. He has plenty long range jutsu and sage mode enhanced taijutsu to fight with opponents. Hashi is not a renowned speedstar

 

[Brooks]

Where did you get that bijudama is hypersonic?

It's call scaling.​

Naruto characters don't mention how fast they're in m/s or km/hr. And Hashirama has not blitzed anybody in the manga.

Hashirama kept up with the likes of Madara(who blitzed high tier speedstars)...i don't why you're bring up these blitzing shi_t when it isn't relevant.​

He has plenty long range jutsu and sage mode enhanced taijutsu to fight with opponents. Hashi is not a renowned speedstar

Okay...and your point is?​

So wait. When did foot speed become comparable to st tech's?
When did hashirama become regarded as fastest of his era? Cmon now.

Is Kamui going to help Obito catch Hashirama? No!

No matter how fast your the Space–Time technique is...it's useless when your opponent reflexes and overall speed is greater than yours.​

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

It's call scaling.​

Hashirama kept up with the likes of Madara(who blitzed high tier speedstars)...i don't why you're bring up these blitzing shi_t when it isn't relevant.​

Okay...and your point is?​

Is Kamui going to help Obito catch Hashirama? No!

No matter how fast your the Space–Time technique is...it's useless when your opponent reflexes and overall speed is greater than yours.​

Scaling doesn't work, Hashirama was going to be hit by that bijuudama anyway, If that's how it is then obito is far above the speed of light, and juubimadara is faster than that, and obito still activated Kamui faster than him at point blank range.
Obito can't be sensed while warping.

 

[Brooks]

Scaling doesn't work,

"Scaling doesn't work"? and why is that?​

Hashirama was going to be hit by that bijuudama anyway,

Doesn't matter if he was going get hit with that Bijūdama...it still enough speed feat to avoid Obito from touching him?

And where is your prove that Hashirama was going get hit with that Bijūdama?​

If that's how it is then obito is far above the speed of light, and juubimadara is faster than that, and obito still activated
Kamui faster than him at point blank range..

Kamui is also used as teleportation(so, yes...it is faster than light)...but Obito has to touch his opponent first to warp them in the Kamui dimension...does Obito have the speed feat to touch Hashirama? No!

Why is this hard for you people to understand or are you simply blinded by the Kamui wank?​

Obito can't be sensed while warping.

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[Draphsin]

but Obito has to touch his opponent first to warp them in the Kamui dimension...does Obito have the speed feat to touch Hashirama? No!​

So you're arguing that hashirama's reactions are superior to minato's? Because obito touched him.

 

[Brooks]

So you're arguing that hashirama's reactions are superior to minato's? Because obito touched him.

Are you high? It's best you read the manga.

Minato was just using base speed and nothing more.​

 

[Draphsin]

Are you high? It's best you read the manga.

Minato was just using base speed and nothing more.​

Lmfao I don't need to read the manga anymore than I already have, you're the one comparing base hashi's speed/reactions with minato's, suggesting you need to take a second look.

 

[Brooks]

Lmfao I don't need to read the manga anymore than I already have, you're the one comparing base hashi's speed/reactions with minato's, suggesting you need to take a second look.

You need to read the manga again because you have little to no knowledge of you speaking of.

I don't know why it's hard to understand the fact that Minato was merely using base speed.​

 

[Draphsin]

You need to read the manga again because you have little to no knowledge of you speaking of.

I don't know why it's hard to understand the fact that Minato was merely using base speed.​

Lel

What does base speed have to do with anything? How does base speed change the fact that he got grabbed by obito?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Is Kamui going to help Obito catch Hashirama? No!

No matter how fast your the Space–Time technique is...it's useless when your opponent reflexes and overall speed is greater than yours.​

The flaw there is hashi's speed and reactions aren't comparable to obito's.

Tobirama is the fastest of hashi's time. Meaning his speed and reactions are superior.

Tobirama already admitted inferiority in both speed and reactions to minato and yet minato was almost caught by an obito that can warp even faster.

The same obito that while on death bed reacted to jin maddy something an sm minato failed to do.

He doesn't have the speed or reactions to counter kamui without knowledge.

 

[Draphsin]

The flaw there is hashi's speed and reactions aren't comparable to obito's.

Tobirama is the fastest of hashi's time. Meaning his speed and reactions are superior.

Tobirama already admitted inferiority in both speed and reactions to minato and yet minato was almost caught by an obito that can warp even faster.

The same obito that while on death bed reacted to jin maddy something an sm minato failed to do.

He doesn't have the speed or reactions to counter kamui without knowledge.

No, apparently according to him minato was using "base speed" whatever on earth that means. Lol

 

[Brooks]

Lel

What does base speed have to do with anything? How does base speed change the fact that he got grabbed by obito?

Again, stupidity presents itself.

It changes everything seeing as how you're now trying to compare Minato's base speed and when he is using his Hiraishin no Jutsu...

You haven't come up with a legit argument other than the horse shi_t coming out of your mouth.​

The flaw there is hashi's speed and reactions aren't comparable to obito's.

Tobirama is the fastest of hashi's time. Meaning his speed and reactions are superior.

Tobirama already admitted inferiority in both speed and reactions to minato and yet minato was almost caught by an obito that can warp even faster.

The same obito that while on death bed reacted to jin maddy something an sm minato failed to do.

He doesn't have the speed or reactions to counter kamui without knowledge.

First, Tobirama admitted inferiority between their Shunshin...where are you getting this inferiority in reaction?​

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Second, Minato was merely using base speed and sensing instead of his Hiraishin no Jutsu...so, using that A>B>C logic already failed in this argument.

Third, Rikudō Madara let his guard down when he asked Obito to come on to his side as he thought he was still manipulating Obito...do you honestly believe Obito could do that without Madara putting his guard down?​

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Again, stupidity presents itself.

It changes everything seeing as how you're now trying to compare Minato's base speed and when he is using his Hiraishin no Jutsu...

You haven't come up with a legit argument other than the horse shi_t coming out of your mouth.​

First, Tobirama admitted inferiority between their Shunshin...where are you getting this inferiority in reaction?​

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Second, Minato was merely using base speed and sensing instead of his Hiraishin no Jutsu...so, using that A>B>C logic already failed in this argument.

Third, Rikudō Madara let his guard down when he asked Obito to come on to his side as he thought he was still manipulating Obito...do you honestly believe Obito could do that without Madara putting his guard down?​

1.I really don't feel like pulling up the scans... but if it gets to that point I will
2. Base speed? He ftg'd to maddy with rasengan already out.
3.maddy attacked him twice. The first attack got phased through the second attack got blocked by obito's staff.

 

[KidGamer65]

So you're arguing that hashirama's reactions are superior to minato's? Because obito touched him.

Cause he snuck up on him and Minato attacked instead of even trying to evade. That has nothing to do with reactions. Nothing at all. We already saw what happened when Minato knew how to act, Obito never touched him again.

 

[Draphsin]

Again, stupidity presents itself.

It changes everything seeing as how you're now trying to compare Minato's base speed and when he is using his Hiraishin no Jutsu...

Lol Yeah the stupidity definitely presented itself on someone...

Ill say it again for the somewhat slow [you] to comprehend, base speed doesn't change the fact that he got grabbed by obito, & by the way genius I never compared hiraishin to base speed so get that out of your head right quick.

Minato resorted to using hiraishin to escape the warp, & prior to that he got grabbed by obito due to kamui & failure to react accordingly.

You haven't come up with a legit argument other than the horse shi_t coming out of your mouth.

& You think the bullsh*t you're spewing is anything less than a joke? Please just give up.

Want some arguments? Then go back a few pages, & take a look at these:

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& Speaking of arguments, you still have yet to prove how hashi is even remotely close to minato in terms of speed & reactions, so that alone ruins your entire case.

Cause he snuck up on him and Minato attacked instead of even trying to evade. That has nothing to do with reactions. Nothing at all. We already saw what happened when Minato knew how to act, Obito never touched him again.

I'm still referring to a hashi without info. & The time when minato attacked obito [before he got grabbed] is dependent on his reactions.

 

[KidGamer65]

I'm still referring to a hashi without info.

Then I'm sure it'd be the non info that would lead to him getting grabbed, not a lack of reactions.

 

[Draphsin]

Then I'm sure it'd be the non info that would lead to him getting grabbed, not a lack of reactions.

My bad I edited this in.

& The time when minato attacked obito [before he got grabbed] is dependent on his reactions.

So basically minato can react just before he gets grabbed, & if he had such a hard time doing it then hashi will to.

 

[Brooks]

1.I really don't feel like pulling up the scans... but if it gets to that point I will

What scans are talking about? If you talking about the one Tobirama admitted inferiority, then i already posted.​

2. Base speed? He ftg'd to maddy with rasengan already out.

Madara didn't react to Hiraishin no Jutsu but rather Minato movement after he teleported himself.​

3.maddy attacked him twice. The first attack got phased through the second attack got blocked by obito's staff.

Like i said before...he hit Madara first because he let his guard down and as for the second one....Obito simply blocked it(which has nothing to do with reaction).​

 

[KidGamer65]

My bad I edited this in.

& The time when minato attacked obito [before he got grabbed] is dependent on his reactions.

So basically minato can react just before he gets grabbed, & if he had such a hard time doing it then hashi will to.

He didn't have a hard time reacting. He is the one who attacked first. Obito simply let it phase through him and then caught his arm.

 

[Scryed]

I do believe Hashi can beat Obito with intel.

But trying to use hype as an argument isn't something I would do...


Quick question about Bringer or Darkness.

Is the darkness itself made out of chakra?