Why people say Obito>Hashirama?

Draphsin

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By the way dumbass....Hashirama is slower than Kamui but Obito's offensive Kamui isn't much of a help to him unless he can touch his opponent, then it will be affective against Hashirama.

Lol your "conclusion" is nothing more than an excuse coupled with some insults to try & leave this thread with some dignity, so I will ignore it & just end this as a final farewell.

As I've said multiple times over again, obito grabbed minato who is faster than hashi, therefore hashi also gets grabbed. Last time I said this you mentioned base speed which still means nothing & doesn't even make sense in this situation, so he still gets grabbed, sorry. ;)

this debate is terrible. :)

That's because it's not a debate, it's someone getting particularly upset because they couldn't counter my original points.

He's been insulting me ever since he realized that. Lol
 
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As I've said multiple times over again, obito grabbed minato who is faster than hashi, therefore hashi also gets grabbed. Last time I said this you mentioned base speed which still means nothing & doesn't even make sense in this situation, so he still gets grabbed, sorry. ;)

For the last time....Obito was able to grab him because Minato slipped through Obito, which allowed Obito to take advantage of Minato at that point.​

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You're talking as if this was through Obito's speed, when in fact...it was mere trickery.​
 

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The outcome of this match highly depends on the circumstances (distance, location, intel, prep), so no, there are actually scenarios where Hashirama is defeated by Obito and vice versa.
 

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Surprise is still related to his reactions though.

& If obito uses a summoning to cover his warp with debris then hashi will not see him coming.

If he could see him coming, then he would have reacted faster, or should I say normally.

Hashirama will sense his chakra vanishing when he warps, something Minato couldn't do since he wasn't aware of Obito until he had warped to his location.
 

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Hashirama is stronger!
Ems madara and Edo madara is stronger than obito and hashirama is stronger than ems madara and edo madara.

Once obito becomes tangible and attacks hashirama,hashirama would use that oppurtunity and one shot obito!

Did you just say "How can some one like obito be one shotted"
The answer is because hashirama will use mokuton and that will bind obito.

And hashirama's sage mode gives him a greater advantage as well

Hashirama can use bringer of darkness on obito

Hashirama can use wood dragon and bind obito and then use the sealing gates to seal obito.

And the most important fact is HASHIRAMA IS ASURA'S REINCARNATION

HASHIRAMA>OBITO
JUUBITO>HASHIRAMA
whos to say kakashi ans obito werent th3 reincarnations too
obito doesnt have to become tangible, he can use projectiles from his flank ans right has he becomes tangibke as hashi attacks he can warp or become intangible again


ok sage mode helps with what in this situation??

a yamanaka had a hard time shiftinf his control on the juubi so bringer of dqrkness a genjutsu lesser in quality cant do shjt

ovito wins ur dumb
 

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For the last time....Obito was able to grab him because Minato slipped through Obito, which allowed Obito to take advantage of Minato at that point.​

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And? I still fail to see how this means anything. If obito can do that to the fastest shinobi then he can do the exact same thing to hashi. Having more speed is better in the situation minato was in but he still failed.

Obito takes advantage of hashi the exact same way, he's simply too slow to counter effectively.

You're talking as if this was through Obito's speed, when in fact...it was mere trickery.​

Whether it was a trick or speed is irrelevant [you have a knack for bringing up irrelevant points]. The fact of the matter is minato who is the fastest could not evade without FTG, the fastest jutsu. Hashi needs speed & reactions on that level if he wishes to have a chance at evading like minato did, but alas he does not.

If he could see him coming, then he would have reacted faster, or should I say normally.

Hashirama will sense his chakra vanishing when he warps, something Minato couldn't do since he wasn't aware of Obito until he had warped to his location.

Well the point of a warp from behind is to incorporate the element of surprise after all. You still need the proper speed & reactions coupled with sensing in order to evade, at least without info anyways.

& If obito creates a large scale attack that's filled with chakra then hashi won't be focusing on obito's chakra vanishing for one, he will be focused on the mass of chakra + his own chakra supplies as obito warps. Secondly once the explosion goes off hashi would be none the wiser & might just think that obito died in the explosion, hence his chakra disappearing.
 
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