Why do people think that Sasuke had more power up than Naruto??

[UzumakiWade]

Seriously? Another who has more power-up threads?

Incase you didn't notice their chakra itself is a free hand-out since all chakra is from the juubi, ergo, no one has more power-ups than the other, ergo they are equal.

 

[Rikodou Mode]

how? naruto came back after 3 years and just show a larger rasengan. Smh all the training that naruto done in part 2 could've been done during those 3 years.

Mini Rasengan, giant rasengan, FRS, planetary rasengan, bijuudama, mini bijuudama (without the bijuu mode), mini rasenshuriken, TSB control. Thanks to his rasengan training he managed to do all of these

 

[Retsu]

Yeah so experience tremendous pain=No effort :|

Pain is nothing when you destroy opponents who would otherwise neg diff you without said power up.

 

[ANiMUS]

I see what you are saying but keep in mind the theme:

Sasuke is the natrually talented one like Indra. So his training mostly came actual battle

Naruto was the "Loser" who, through compassion and comradery, gained equal amount of power.

Neither one is better or worse than the other. Just 2 different ways of learning. It's like those people who can learn something from just reading about it while others need hands on lesson to learn.



again true but not entirely. While yes MS you risk going blind after extensive and repeated use. Sage Mode comes with it's risk as well. Naruto still runs the risk of turning into a Frog Statue if he does not maintain a precise balance Nature chakra and his own.

So no he doesn't just get to use Sage mode for free. Sasuke's EMS however erases all of the MS weaknesses much Like there is no repercussion for Naruto KCM

I think Kishi was careful in this aspect to make sure the powerups of the rivals didn't eclipse one or the other.

I wasn't speaking of risks, but of consequences. SM has zero consequences as long as u do it right and for MS suffering is mandatory.

In my post before I already stated that EMS. Is only equal standing with KCM as far as how it is achieved

 

[Nagi]

The same could be said of Sasuke and his acquisition of MS EMS. Without Itachi's help (removing Orochimaru from him and letting him win) Sasuke would not have earned the MS or EMS.

Again it goes both ways. Kishi was very careful in making sure the rivals stayed mostly even.

Evenly? lol Before They both got their final power up, the whole NB knew damn well that Naruto was farrrrrrr stronger than Sasuke due to all his power ranger mix with DBZ fights. Kishi was not careful at all. He tried to fix that by allowing Sasuke to use all kyubi in the final fight.

 

[lndra]

Yeah but point is he had help to take power from it before

That is not the point. He needed help to take down Kurama, but he could of never have done that alone (not power wise). Killer Bee mastered this, and Naruto had to do it under a short amount time. Killer Bee opened the path, and Kushina released her chakra chains which proceeded that Naruto came to beat the crap out Kurama. Not to mention Naruto ultimately was the one who pulled Kurama's chakra out of himself.

Now, onto BM. Or no? Which was him by himself.

Itachi was already dying when he faced Sasuke but fact is Sasuke used up everything he had and Itachi,a MS user, needed to use his Susanoo against Sasuke's Kirin.The fight was not fair with 3T vs MS to begin with and yet Itachi had to resort to his "trump card" to win which accelerated his death.

The fight was led and created by Itachi. He had been controlling the fight since it started, ultimately allowing Sasuke to win from beginning to end. Leading him to his death which he then crafted a way for Sasuke to activate his MS, hell he even TRANSPORTED his MS techniques onto Sauske before he died :|

The attack on summit was training. No time to train when the world is against you! Fight and train at the same time!

Just sounds like an excuse. Naruto was still training during the war with his tailed beast bomb rasengan.

 

[To Whatever]

Yeah so experience tremendous pain=No effort :|

Other people could go through that same pain and gain nothing or nowhere near the amount of power an Uchiha who loves does.

 

[Rikodou Mode]

Yes it is a power-up. It granted him access to Susanoo and Amaterasu. 2 very formidable techs.



That is an even bigger power-up. Considering you will eventually go blind with MS. With EMS Sasuke retains his abilities, had he not gotten that he would've gone blind and lost majority of his power. It's very much on par with Naruto's power-ups.

The Rinnegan may not be exactly on par with RSM, but when he masteres it, it will be. To even the difference out he used the Bijuu.

All in all they have gotten equal amounts of power-ups.

Mangekyo is 3 power ups. Rinnegan is like 8 different power ups in one XD

 

[Narutohokage324]

That is not the point. He needed help to take down Kurama, but he could of never have done that alone (not power wise). Killer Bee mastered this, and Naruto had to do it under a short amount time. Killer Bee opened the path, and Kushina released her chakra chains which proceeded that Naruto came to beat the crap out Kurama. Not to mention Naruto ultimately was the one who pulled Kurama's chakra out of himself.

Now, onto BM. Or no? Which was him by himself.



The fight was led and created by Itachi. He had been controlling the fight since it started, ultimately allowing Sasuke to win from beginning to end. Leading him to his death which he then crafted a way for Sasuke to activate his MS, hell he even TRANSPORTED his MS techniques onto Sauske before he died :|


Just sounds like an excuse. Naruto was still training during the war with his tailed beast bomb rasengan.

LOL! I'll go find the scan where it stated that Itachi transported all of MS techniques onto Sasuke.

Does that mean Amaterasu and Susano'o are all Itachi's? Because the only one Itachi did not have was Kagutsuchi? LMAO

 

[Radice]

Um, no. Seems like someone needs to read Part one again. Naruto did not dodge the chidori because he did not believe Sasuke would try to kill him, after that blow, Naruto became serious. However, it was the same Naruto who became angry that told Sasuke he would never want to kill him. The same Naruto that could of striked Sasuke's chest to stalemate the fight in VOTE1, but scratched his headband instead. Ultimately giving him the win, because Sasuke told him he would never scratch that part. I wonder if you realize that Sasuke had the biggest plot device in history because:

I. He was leaving Konohagakure
II. If he lost it would of ruined the arc and end Part 2.

Please tell me more of plot devices, friend.

Plot device? Tell me more of plot devices when Naruto yells "I won't kill you Sasuke" before their final fights?

Dude why are using a Sasuke's avatar? You didn't undertyand nothing about the caracter.
You cleary a Naruto wanker.

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Sasuke would have his MS since part 1 killing Naruto when he defeated naruto in a just battle.



Sasuke choose to Hard working with 3 T Sharingan instead to get his MS.
POINT

 

[Aznkidd]

You guys misunderstand alot of things.

The onpy thing naruto trained for is SM and kcm.

Kyubi trusted him thus gave naruto his full power = bm
Realised he could use sm +bm = bsm

Died , hago powerup + minato's half of the kyubi = rsm


Enlighten me on his training program

Rofl, how many time i have to tell ppl that naruto has already got completely control over the kuybii after the turtle arc ?
The reason kuybii fight along with naruto because of friendship and promise.
Tell me 1/10 story is about his training and u want more ?

 

[ANiMUS]

Mangekyo is 3 power ups. Rinnegan is like 8 different power ups in one XD

That would be like counting all of the benefits of Naruto's modes each as a power up :|

 

[Rikodou Mode]

Sasuke has natural talent.
So obviously he had less Power Ups, hence Bjiuu Rinnegan Sasuke

Actually it's because of his talent that he gained more power ups than Naruto

 

[Retsu]

LOL! I'll go find the scan where it stated that Itachi transported all of MS techniques onto Sasuke.

Does that mean Amaterasu and Susano'o are all Itachi's? Because the only one Itachi did not have was Kagutsuchi? LMAO

Not to mention the one scan where Sasuke who had just gotten his LASIK surgery says I can feel itachi's power flowing in me.

 

[Umari Senju]

I wasn't speaking of risks, but of consequences. SM has zero consequences as long as u do it right and for MS suffering is mandatory.

In my post before I already stated that EMS. Is only equal standing with KCM as far as how it is achieved

Ah I see I stand corrected then. U_U

Evenly? lol Before They both got their final power up, the whole NB knew damn well that Naruto was farrrrrrr stronger than Sasuke due to all his power ranger mix with DBZ fights. Kishi was not careful at all. He tried to fix that by allowing Sasuke to use all kyubi in the final fight.

Reread my post I said "mostly"

The begining of Part II Sasuke was waaay stronger than Naruto. Team 7 couldn't even touch him and they would have died if Sasuke used Kirin right there if Orochimaru hadn't stopped him.

When Naruto Beat Pain he was Stronger than Sasuke

They were pretty much even albeit Sasuke was a little stronger when they obtained both KCM and EMS respectively

When the war started that's when the gap in power became the most prevalent and Kishi fixed that by making both Naruto and Sasuke children of prophecy by giving them both rikudo powerup.

So Yes, They have been mostly even the entire manga

Dude why are using a Sasuke's avatar? You didn't undertyand nothing about the caracter.
You cleary a Naruto wanker.

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Sasuke would have his MS since part 1 killing Naruto when he defeated naruto in a just battle.



Sasuke choose to Hard working with 3 T Sharingan instead to get his MS.
POINT

No Sasuke chose not to kill Naruto because he didn't want to follow the path his brother laid out for him. And the same could be said about Sasuke. At that point Sasuke had nothing to combat Gamabunta had Naruto summoned him.

In both cases plot shield protected both of them.

 

[lndra]

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Sigh, you clearly do not understand Sauske at all. Sasuke VOTE1 is much different from Sasuke early part two.

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Naruto chosing not to strike Sasuke in the chest

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Sasuke did chose hard work over MS. He chose Naruto over killing him, he still had those feelings, in the end. You can see it clearly after their clash.

It was PART 2 Sasuke who wanted the power, who probably wanted to kill Naruto. Even then, it was still unclear because his mentaility was still pure. Though I do not doubt that Sasuke wanted to kill Naruto during the fight, but I think he understood his feelings toward the end of it. Esepecially with Naruto not aiming to deal a massive strike to the chest.

Point ~

 

[Amaterasu]

Another garbage thread with stupid statements, I will come later and destroy all retards with good arguments Lol

 

[ANiMUS]

That is not the point. He needed help to take down Kurama, but he could of never have done that alone (not power wise). Killer Bee mastered this, and Naruto had to do it under a short amount time. Killer Bee opened the path, and Kushina released her chakra chains which proceeded that Naruto came to beat the crap out Kurama. Not to mention Naruto ultimately was the one who pulled Kurama's chakra out of himself.

Now, onto BM. Or no? Which was him by himself.



The fight was led and created by Itachi. He had been controlling the fight since it started, ultimately allowing Sasuke to win from beginning to end. Leading him to his death which he then crafted a way for Sasuke to activate his MS, hell he even TRANSPORTED his MS techniques onto Sauske before he died :|


Just sounds like an excuse. Naruto was still training during the war with his tailed beast bomb rasengan.

Didn't transport the techniques. Only Amaterasu for a one time use. Also even if Itachi manufactured th fight Sasuke still struggled and put all he had into it. He pushed Itachi to use Susano'o which led to his death.

 

[Narutohokage324]

Itachi implanted ALL of Sasuke's Mangekyo abilities besides kagutsuchi

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[-immortal-]

EMS wasn't gift by birth PTTE.

I thought you meant regular sharing.
Sorry for my mistake!