Why do people think that Sasuke had more power up than Naruto??

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Stop to being stupid.
If Itachi passed all his techniques to Sasuke.
There's no reason to Itachi be surprised to see Sasuke with Susanoo too.


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Sasuke would have one shotted Bee with it when the battle heated but he awakaned it after seeing Taka getting stomped
Other than the reason that Sasuke did not know how to unlock it? Sasuke used a memory of his old team to use Amaterasu, and Itachi set Amaterasu for Madara/Obito.

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and then anyone who thinks itachi put all his ocular abilities in sasuke is troll
He probably gave him Amaterasu. Kagutsuchi is his, and Susano'o is debatable considering Itachi gave him MS/EMS.
 
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Stop to being stupid.
If Itachi passed all his techniques to Sasuke.
There's no reason to Itachi be surprised to see Sasuke with Susanoo too.


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Is this VIZ trans ?
 

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You first make this thread complaining about sage mode then say its plot sasuke didn't get sage mode and blame kishi, you seem to covet sage mode very much.

If there were time between Sasuke learning about the snake sage mode existence and going to the battlefield, I don't see no reason for sasuke to not learning it. But nope, didn't happen. hopefully he learn it after the war.
 

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Other than the reason that Sasuke did not know how to unlock it? Sasuke used memory of his old team to use Amaterasu, and Itachi set Amaterasu for Madara/ObitoItachi did the same with.

Eactly Itachi did it.It was his jutsu.Nothing to do with sasuke other than the fact Transcription seal was implanted in it

Sasuke awakaned his amaterasu with his MS later on against Killer Bee

He probably gave him Amaterasu. Kagutsuchi is his, and Susano'o is debatable considering Itachi gave him MS/EMS.

If dat is True Bee would have got oneshotted when fight was getting tough for Taka
Is this VIZ trans ?

r others using VIZ translation
 
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Tobirama slacked off so he's not as powerful as Hashi

You've got no proof of that, you don't know of Tobirama and his training habits and you certainly know nothing of the other two brothers so you basically can't prove anything.
 

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Eactly Itachi did it.It was his jutsu.Nothing to do with sasuke other than the fact Transcription seal was implanted in it

Sasuke awakaned his amaterasu with his MS later on against Killer Bee
Speculation. There is no proof to that because Itachi implanted Amaterasu in his eye
 

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no he didn't. we're talking about the power ups. to get MS all sasuke had to do was get his ass handed to him by itachi and then cry after being told a story. to get EMS all he had to do was spam his MS for a full day because without it he'd be nothing at the kage summit and then go blind and have obito give him itachis eyes. to get PS he had to have naruto give him some kyuubi chakra and he was never shown using ps till he got some kyuubi in him. to get rennigan he had to get killed and given powers by a time traveling soul and thats it i think.

naruto on the other hand trained for sage mode trained for kcm and for bm it took him beating up kurama during his kcm training and then gaining extra trust points to achieve so yes he did train for bm. bsm was also gained though training although not for that specific thing it was the combination of all his training that led to him finding out he could mix em up. rikudo mode is his only free powerup

Sasuke trained with Kakashi for the first basic stages of Sharingan. Only some Uchiha have the potential to unlock the Mangekyou. Itachis eyes were given to Sasuke by Obito upon request. It was never stated that Sasuke needed Kyuubi chakra for his susanoo with legs. Sasuke could unlock the Rinnegan on his own due to healing him with what he studied of Hashiramas DNA. Hagaromo only unlocked it then because it was needed.

Narutos power ups would begin and end with SM if not for the Kyuubi
 

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You've got no proof of that, you don't know of Tobirama and his training habits and you certainly know nothing of the other two brothers so you basically can't prove anything.

You too can't prove me wrong of the bloodline argument, so beat it.
 

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You too can't prove me wrong of the bloodline argument, so beat it.

I already did and you countered my manga facts with special ed speculation, you lose by default until you stop making things up, have a good day.
 

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Speculation. There is no proof to that because Itachi implanted Amaterasu in his eye

No it is not.he used his MS not Itachi's Lol

Edit: Previously specified Target.So is Killer Bee or Raikage previously specified Target lol

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@Bold I. What..? Sasuke learned Amaterasu from Itachi, Kagutsuchi he learned on the spot by trying to save Karin, and Susano'o he tested out when he unlocked it. None of these which he ACTUALLY spent training for. For example - Sage Mode.

@Bolded II. Yet Sasuke used no Rinnegan abilities during their fights. He 'automatically' learned it, much like Naruto's flying. Though that is not a point, I just wnated to point it out. It was definitely a plot hole because Sasuke did not even try, it was just stated that he 'did'. Same for Naruto's plot flying. Just Kishimoto did not have the time I guess.

Wait so him knowing of the technique and trying it means he mastered it???
Lmao
Ok wait u must have inside information you said that's when he unlocked susanoo but there was a brief time period before the kage summit how do u know what he did? Matter a fact taka new of his new jutsu meaning he at least told them about them
He always tests the jutsu his screen time is to keep the story moving so we never get Sasuke training nor sakura nor kakashi or anyone not named Naruto

The rinnegan is the same as ms.
Itachi used it maybe I can let me TRY
madara fused susanoo with the nine tails let me TRY
Madara made his susanoo grow legs let me TRY
Madara used ct with his rinnegan I have a rinnegan let me TRY
It's all about having the ability to use it and attempting to this doesn't equal him automatically mastering

Its the same as naruto using tbb because he has a biju and rasengan has the same mechanics

After rereading this post of yours I realized you completely forgot about the sharingans abilities. Even tho it was stated serval times it can break down any jutsu and if the wielder meets the criteria to use the jutsu they can do it
Also you forgot sasuke is a genius and ninjutsu is his primary field of expertise
 

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How does one learn a technique without trying? Say that to yourself. God I felt stupid for asking you that, how slow...? It's called plot.

Yes, Susano'o unlocked periodically. That did not come in the form of training, it came naturally. Look how it activates through his emotions.

Sasuke tested Susano'o by just knowing it was there, that is the difference between having it, and knowing you have it.

You are merely speculating on the Rinnegan's techniques. You cannot show me one manga panel of him actually training with it.

I'll wait for your response /looks out the window
 

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Being able to use senjutsu is called sagemode though, there's no need to clarify since you can't use senjutsu without sage mode, that's like saying genjutsu and sharingan genjutsu are two totally separate things.

SM Comprises of various perks such as sending frog kata and what not, but what u r describing in bold is a capability. Senjutsu (ninjutsu that u can use thanks to SM do not define SM. SM is a state of body
 

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SM Comprises of various perks such as sending frog kata and what not, but what u r describing in bold is a capability. Senjutsu (ninjutsu that u can use thanks to SM do not define SM. SM is a state of body

You gain sagemode once you absorb natural energy into the body and combine it with chakra to create senjutsu, you can't have sagemode without having senjutsu since creation of senjutsu is what enables one to have sagemode. The fact that the body can go into sagemode means that you've already amassed senjutsu into the body. They're one in the same power up.
 

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You gain sagemode once you absorb natural energy into the body and combine it with chakra to create senjutsu, you can't have sagemode without having senjutsu since creation of senjutsu is what enables one to have sagemode. The fact that the body can go into sagemode means that you've already amassed senjutsu into the body. They're one in the same power up.

Soooo Sasuke's senjutsu susanoo.....Not sage mode right?
 
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