why do people think PS is an EMS tech?

[tamikasy]

That's exactly what I'm trying to point out.

ohh lol srry

 

[Dribbles]

This is where you failed.

Madara's eyes are the most powerful known to exist so far in the manga, his "Perfect Susano'o" Is the form before stabilizing it. It requires the Rinnegan to stabilize it.

Sasuke already has a perfect form, once he stabilizes it, it should take the shape of a hawk-like creature, seeing as it's form is completely based around that.

All stabilizing it does is give it a form that actually makes sense, the giant fluttering robe with a beak doesn't make sense with Itachi and Sasuke's form. If they stabilized it via the Rinnegan both would take the form of a bird-like creature.

 

[KidGamer65]

This is where you failed.

Madara's eyes are the most powerful known to exist so far in the manga, his "Perfect Susano'o" Is the form before stabilizing it. It requires the Rinnegan to stabilize it.

Sasuke already has a perfect form, once he stabilizes it, it should take the shape of a hawk-like creature, seeing as it's form is completely based around that.

All stabilizing it does is give it a form that actually makes sense, the giant fluttering robe with a beak doesn't make sense with Itachi and Sasuke's form. If they stabilized it via the Rinnegan both would take the form of a bird-like creature.

Nope, Rinnegan isn't needed to stabilize PS, that is just pure assumption.

 

[Raikiri10]

It's clearly not a Rinnegan technique other wise we would have seen it via Nagato or though some may argue it's a technique acquired only when the Sharingan evolves into the Rinnegan but in my humble opinion it's just an advanced version of Susanoo given when EMS is gained since we all know Sasuke's amaterasu has been up graded in a similar manner so it's safe to say his genjutsu would have received a similar upgrade in terms of power also.

 

[Thundercles]

This is where you failed.

Madara's eyes are the most powerful known to exist so far in the manga, his "Perfect Susano'o" Is the form before stabilizing it. It requires the Rinnegan to stabilize it.

Sasuke already has a perfect form, once he stabilizes it, it should take the shape of a hawk-like creature, seeing as it's form is completely based around that.

All stabilizing it does is give it a form that actually makes sense, the giant fluttering robe with a beak doesn't make sense with Itachi and Sasuke's form. If they stabilized it via the Rinnegan both would take the form of a bird-like creature.

You are only wrong about the Rinnegan part. Yes, it is just a stabilization unique to Madara, but remember, he says "All who sees it dies" meaning others have seen his PS. He only unlocked the Rinnegan shortly before his death.

 

[Lightbringer]

This is where you failed.

Madara's eyes are the most powerful known to exist so far in the manga, his "Perfect Susano'o" Is the form before stabilizing it. It requires the Rinnegan to stabilize it.

Sasuke already has a perfect form, once he stabilizes it, it should take the shape of a hawk-like creature, seeing as it's form is completely based around that.

All stabilizing it does is give it a form that actually makes sense, the giant fluttering robe with a beak doesn't make sense with Itachi and Sasuke's form. If they stabilized it via the Rinnegan both would take the form of a bird-like creature.

Madara got the rinnegan when he was old and frail. How would he know how to stabilize it if he hadn't done it before or that he could even do such a thing?

 

[saw2097]

This theory does make a lot of sense. The real truth is, we still don't know a lot about Madara and Hashi's battles. As for Perfect Susanoo whether its a form unique to Madara or not, we will probably find out when we get the Madara flashbacks.

 

[tamikasy]

LOL @ people who think you need Rinnegan to stabilize Final Susano

 

[Sephiron]

I completely agree with OP. I've been saying the same thing for quite a while, Susanoo has many forms and its stabilized form is PS, all other forms are fodder/ pre-stages and likely that all forms are usable via MS. If anything one wouldn't be able to use PS with MS alone only because of the strain on the users body that apparently subsides after EMS is obtained.

 

[SharinganWarrior]

madara only got whooped in the last battle, all the other battles before him and hashi were equals
madara got kyubi cause he knew all the other battles ended in a draw so thats why he took the kyubi to get an edge over hashi

YES!!!! THANK YOU^^. I hate how everyone thinks hashirama is superior to madara just cuz of one battle. For the many battles they had, they were rival & non won or lose. I feel that the reason hashirama won the last battle cuz of either the will of fire. Or he knew madara was Gona come back to destroy the village, and thus hashirama had set up a trap/ or prepared ahead since he knew that day would come (Similar to how Konan knew how Tobi will come back to hidden rain to take nagato's rinnegan, and so she prepared that ocean worth of paper bombs to jump him)

 

[SharinganWarrior]

I read ur entire op and i toatally agree with u!!! Thank you for making this thread and point this out. Cuz some ppl still don't get this for some reason and think its an ems technique. What the ems does is it allows the individual to freely practice & advance their Susanoo to perfect stage without worrying about blindness. So it's an upgrade, NOT a whole new Jutsu. We have yet to see this 4th new Jutsu. And I think Kishi is Gona how it to us in the next arch that revolve around sasuke.

 

[Lightbringer]

I read ur entire op and i toatally agree with u!!! Thank you for making this thread and point this out. Cuz some ppl still don't get this for some reason and think its an ems technique. What the ems does is it allows the individual to freely practice & advance their Susanoo to perfect stage without worrying about blindness. So it's an upgrade, NOT a whole new Jutsu. We have yet to see this 4th new Jutsu. And I think Kishi is Gona how it to us in the next arch that revolve around sasuke.

Thank You!

 

[Draxus]

PS isn't a EMS technique, but requires EMS to be able to master Sasano'o to the point it can be stabilized.

 

[MrSimple]

Because he was legendary?
Because if Madara was that strong as the characters describes him he needs PS, otherwise how is he suppose to rival and defeat his enemies at his time with just Susano'o? He doesn't even use amateratsu...
Because "asnwer you with Uchiha Madara's full power" eventually means that?


BM Naruto fans should calm down and deal with it. The main character is not the strongest as the manga also says it.

 

[Lightbringer]

Because he was legendary?
Because if Madara was that strong as the characters describes him he needs PS, otherwise how is he suppose to rival and defeat his enemies at his time with just Susano'o? He doesn't even use amateratsu...
Because "asnwer you with Uchiha Madara's full power" eventually means that?


BM Naruto fans should calm down and deal with it. The main character is not the strongest as the manga also says it.

I'm not entirely sure if you're agreeing with me or not.

 

[bmv]

Totally agree.Plus rep man

 

[Lightbringer]

Totally agree.Plus rep man

thanks!

 

[Draphsin]

Off-topic: While Hashi was a peaceful man, he was no fool. "If you want peace, plan for war." And I do believe Varrah shown some proof that Madara battled Hashi WITH EMS and never without EMS. But, I will still stipulate that PS is an MS tech special to Madara.

im not arguing that madara fought hashi without ems, i dont understand how one can think PS is even possible to stabilize with just MS and if madara can stabilize his susanoo i dont see any reason why sasuke couldnt

PS isn't a EMS technique, but requires EMS to be able to master Sasano'o to the point it can be stabilized.

This, this, this how could you guys not understand this??

 

[repulse]

Hmm, I agree. Although, I wonder what the new power that Itachi mentioned could be...

 

[Lightbringer]

im not arguing that madara fought hashi without ems, i dont understand how one can think PS is even possible to stabilize with just MS and if madara can stabilize his susanoo i dont see any reason why sasuke couldnt

we only saw sasuke use susanoo with just an MS the first time he awakened it and then he went back into hiding. He didn't have time to adjust or learn the tech properly. He only awakened it's final form right before he left.

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