why do people think PS is an EMS tech?

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I think the PS is an MS tech, not an EMS tech and here's why.

Susanoo carries many forms and this could just be the final form that only Madara has mastered so far.

Susanoo already has forms; rib cage, skeletal, full, completed, and perfect

With perfect Susanoo, Madara just stabilized the chakra of the completed Susanoo form.....

Both Sasuke and Itachi have the completed Susanoo already with their MS.

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Sasuke's...look at how the arms resemble Madara's full form and the cloak.
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The Susanoo tech awakens with the MS, not EMS; and having the Susanoo is a rarity in itself. So imagine how rare a PS would be then? I don't think it's an EMS tech since Itachi mentioned that the EMS "gives birth to a completely new tech" and the PS is just an improved version of susanoo.

And if Susanoo is indeed rare, then PS is like the rarest pokemon out there. Getting both would then be like hitting a jackpot.


I somewhat compare the Perfect Susanoo to Naruto's rasengan progression where he had to struggle to maintain control of his chakra and also use clones to help stabilize it for a rasengan.

It's like saying Naruto's chakra mode is MS and bijuu mode is EMS.....but it's not, it's just the mastery over the bijuu, same thing with Susanoo.

One last note. Madara fought Hashirama countless times with just the MS and Hashirama can easily break through a regular susanoo. If he didn't have PS, how would he have survived each time?

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:sy: It is. Madara stated no one that has seen it survived until then. That implies he used it when he was in his prime. Heck, it might even be an MS technique. I mean, seriously :shrug:
 

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reps bro . common sense
 

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Agreed...the Perfect Susanoo is just a susanoo that has been evolved thanks to the EMS...it was said the user unlocks a "new Technique" and Susanoo is already the 3rd power of the MS.
 

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:sy: It is. Madara stated no one that has seen it survived until then. That implies he used it when he was in his prime. Heck, it might even be an MS technique. I mean, seriously :shrug:

That's what I mean, Susanoo is an MS tech and PS is not a completely new tech for an EMS from what Itachi stated. It's like saying chakra mode is MS and bijuu mode is EMS.....it's just the mastery over the bijuu, same thing with Susanoo.
 

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Because he used it against Hashirama. He only had EMS against Hashirama.
 

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as the title says why do people believe it's an EMS tech? Susanoo carries many forms and this could just be the final form that only Madara has mastered so far.

Sasuke first started out with the skeletal susanoo and then slowly evolved, but his could have progressed a lot faster than other susanoo users. It probably takes time and skill for it to get to PS since you need to figure out how to stabilize it and also use up a ton of chakra.

The Susanoo tech awakens with the MS not EMS either, and having the Susanoo is a rarity in itself. So imagine how rare a PS would be then? I don't think it's an EMS tech since Itachi mentioned that the EMS "gives birth to a completely new tech" and the PS is just an improved version of susanoo.

I somewhat compare the Perfect Susanoo to Naruto's rasengan progression where he had to struggle to maintain control of his chakra and also use clones to help stabilize it for a rasengan.

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In order to be able to gain skill and control you must use it a lot, with a regular MS you run the risk of losing your sight, with EMS you don't, that's why.
 

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OMG Re-Read the manga No he didn't! He awakened his rinnegan when he was old and he said anyone who has seen it hasn't survived, meaning he used it on others before and that he didn't use it on Onoki because he was holding back!

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If it's in any way influenced by the Eternal Mangekyō, then it's an EMS technique. Since it has been implied to have been EMS Madara's full power, Perfect Susano'o is, at the very least, most likely a Susano'o enhanced by the final Sharingan dōjutsu.
 

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cuz it is

:sy: It is. Madara stated no one that has seen it survived until then. That implies he used it when he was in his prime. Heck, it might even be an MS technique. I mean, seriously :shrug:

OMG Re-Read the Manga, Madara awakened in AFTER awakening the RINNEGAN

:sy: All you people clearly didn't read the OP...he is saying that it isn't a new technique, it is just a higher form of Susanoo.

OT: I agree, people believing it was a different tech from the normal Susanoo in the first place is what made some think that it came from Rinnegan.
 
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:sy: All you people clearly didn't read the OP...he is saying that it isn't a new technique, it is just a higher form of Susanoo.

OT: I agree, people believing it was a different tech from the normal Susanoo in the first place is what made some think that it came from Rinnegan.

Thank You, at least someone read it!
 

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:sy: All you people clearly didn't read the OP...he is saying that it isn't a new technique, it is just a higher form of Susanoo.

OT: I agree, people believing it was a different tech from the normal Susanoo in the first place is what made some think that it came from Rinnegan.

True...why else would Itachi say "the user unlocks a new Technique" if it was Perfect Susanoo?...he could have just said "the user unlocks a Perfect form of Susanoo" since he also had a Susanoo.
 
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That's what I mean, Susanoo is an MS tech and PS is not a completely new tech for an EMS from what Itachi stated. It's like saying chakra mode is MS and bijuu mode is EMS.....it's just the mastery over the bijuu, same thing with Susanoo.

Hehe sorry too long for me to read :D
 

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the OP is retarded :sy:

Did you read the OP, please tell me you read it otherwise you will look pretty foolish.

True...why else would Itachi say "the user unlocks a new Technique" if it was Perfect Susanoo...he could have just said "the user unlocks a perfect form of Susanoo" since he also had a Susanoo.

Exactly.
 

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:sy: It is. Madara stated no one that has seen it survived until then. That implies he used it when he was in his prime. Heck, it might even be an MS technique. I mean, seriously :shrug:

This x10

PS could be an EMS tech or even an MS tech, all we know is madara used PS before he unlocked the rinnegan, it might not be the new tech but it does come with sharingan
 
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