why cant anybody come up with a good counter for kamui?

[Vapid]

he's not stationary while using it either so he can still jump dodge run and all he needs is a second to undo and redo it plus nobody would be stupid enough to burn through chakra on the off chance they'll make him use it for minutes

Not with a technique similar to what Konan pulled. Konan essentially countered the ability with what I said, just in a different way (without the use of a crapload of chakra).

Kumai is counterable through this maneuver; why do you think Obito resorted to Izanagi in his fight with Konan?

 

[The Necromancer]

Lol dude you are saying the same thing. You are hypothetically saying that Minato wouldn't have gotten faster in 17 years. He didn't even die in his "Prime" as implied he died too young by everyone in the Leaf.

The only Obito faster than Minato is Jubbi Jin Obito. That's the only fact that was ever proven.

Are you serious? I guess in Naruto vs. Madara fights you would boost Naruto by 20 years as well.

 

[Flawž]

One of the listed types of attacks that Yata can negate are astral bodies. Astral has to do with space and non-physical entities. Kamui falls under this classification since it's a Space-Time technique.

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No, Kamui > Yata mirror.

 

[Phonas]

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[Aya San]

technically if his face isnt in the same world as the tree he wouldnt breath in the polen same for the sound jutsu by the other guy or thats how i see it

Out of time limit he dies

 

[theacknowledgedone]

Are you serious? I guess in Naruto vs. Madara fights you would boost Naruto by 20 years as well.

Lol you are the one who started boosting years ya bum. Why would I boost years about Madara and Naruto? They were completely different lifetimes. They didn't even encounter each other prior to the war like Minato and Obito did.

 

[ShiroT]

Not with a technique similar to what Konan pulled. Konan essentially countered the ability with what I said, just in a different way (without the use of a crapload of chakra).

Kumai is counterable through this maneuver; why do you think Obito resorted to Izanagi in his fight with Konan?

he was free falling there was no moving

 

[The Necromancer]

Lol you are the one who started boosting years ya bum. Why would I boost years about Madara and Naruto? They were completely different lifetimes. They didn't even encounter each other prior to the war like Minato and Obito did.

Jesus christ. Who am I talking to? Let me spell it out in elementary terms.

Obito vs. Minato - Obito = 14 years old. Minato = ~30 years old
Akatsuki Obito = ~30 years old

This is really basic math here. Akatsuki Obito has had 17 years of life and battle experience while Minato had been dead for 17 years, therefor not gaining more battle experience in death... Jesus.

 

[Phonas]

No, Kamui > Yata mirror.

Kamui can't warp something that has no form. That's already been proven in the manga and since the Yata Mirror can change itself to reflect the incoming attack, Kamui will be repelled.

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[ShiroT]

Out of time limit he dies

obito could phase under ground thus avoiding it lol not really a win but he avoids getting put to sleep. As it says under the jutsu with will you can overcome the sleepy-ness so it would be possible to use his own would to put himself above the pollen(or attack the flowers with katon)

 

[ShiroT]

Kamui can't warp something that has no form. That's already been proven in the manga and since the Yata Mirror can itself to reflect the incoming attack, Kamui will be repelled.

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or walk past it into susanno

 

[theacknowledgedone]

Jesus christ. Who am I talking to? Let me spell it out in elementary terms.

Obito vs. Minato - Obito = 14 years old. Minato = ~30 years old
Akatsuki Obito = ~30 years old

This is really basic math here. Akatsuki Obito has had 17 years of life and battle experience while Minato had been dead for 17 years, therefor not gaining more battle experience in death... Jesus.

Lol so my point still stands? Minato was still faster whether it was first encounter or the second encounter. MS Obito doesn't beat everyone 1v1.

 

[Vapid]

he was free falling there was no moving

I don't think you understand how things went down.

Konan prepared enough paper bombs to explode continuously for 10 minutes; Obito's intangibility limit is 5 minutes, hence the look on his face in that last link-scan I provided. Obito can still become intangible while in mid-air / free-falling. If you look closely, you'll notice he uses Izanagi before the paper bombs explode, because intangibility would have become useless halfway through the explosion, thus resulting in his defeat.

Continuous barrage of attacks without anyway of escaping = Kamui's weakness.

 

[The Necromancer]

Lol so my point still stands? Minato was still faster whether it was first encounter or the second encounter. MS Obito doesn't beat everyone 1v1.

You really don't understand a word of what I'm getting at here.

 

[mrcrazyboyravi]

So predictable...

1. Obito has had 17 years of experience.
2. Obito effortlessly keeps up with BM Naruto.
3. Minato confirmed Obito could warp him faster than he could react to.

Minato no longer stands a chance. He could only beat a 14 year old child version with 1 year of experience with Kamui.

I hate this kind of logic. If obito beats some 1 then he is pro but if is defeated then he was a kid.
this is one of the lamest excuse

 

[Ultimateone]

the true counter is to wait until he tries to attack you. as longedas he is phased he can't do any damage and you can't do damage to him. in order to beat obito in a one on one is to counter attack.

 

[Phonas]

or walk past it into susanno

That's not possible because the Yata Mirror is a magical spirit weapon, so theoretically, it also exists in another dimension to block astral based attacks like Kamui. Yes, Yata Mirror defies the laws of science, which is why it is also classified as being supernatural. Yata Mirror is layered to Itachi. Therefore, there's no way to phase through it via Kamui.

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[ShiroT]

I don't think you understand how things went down.

Konan prepared enough paper bombs to explode continuously for 10 minutes; Obito's intangibility limit is 5 minutes, hence the look on his face in that last link-scan I provided. Obito can still become intangible while in mid-air / free-falling. If you look closely, you'll notice he uses Izanagi before the paper bombs explode, because intangibility would have become useless halfway through the explosion, thus resulting in his defeat.

Continuous barrage of attacks without anyway of escaping = Kamui's weakness.

you dont understand my point is if he is free falling he cannot avoid the explosion if he was on a walkable ground he could move away from danger before 5 mins is up

 

[ShiroT]

Lol so my point still stands? Minato was still faster whether it was first encounter or the second encounter. MS Obito doesn't beat everyone 1v1.

your point doesnt even if your right lol i already excluded ftg users from the debate

 

[ShiroT]

That's not possible because the Yata Mirror is a magical spirit weapon, so theoretically, it also exists in another dimension to block astral based attacks like Kamui. Yes, Yata Mirror defies the laws of science, which is why it is also classified as being supernatural. Yata Mirror is layered to Itachi. Therefore, there's no way to phase through it via Kamui.

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thats to vague as astral (as many refer to it) is the realm of the dead or spirits, kamui's dimension is like a 3rd dimension considerng the afterlife. I also believe this because in your description is says spiritual and kamui doesnt affect anything in any kind of spiritual way which could mean yata blocks the afterlife but i could be wrong