Who has done the most for the Leaf??

Itachi is a "Hero" ?


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MickNerks

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Hiruzen.

1. Became hokage
2. looked after Naruto when parents died
3. Protected village from nine tails
4. Defeated 1st hokage, 2nd hokage, and Orochimru to defend the leaf.
5. Sensei of the legendary sannin
6. Wanted to avoid the destruction of Uchiha
7. Sacrificed his life for his village
8. Became the strongest hokage ever and was known as the strongest hokage during his time.
 

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Hiruzen.

1. Became hokage
2. looked after Naruto when parents died
3. Protected village from nine tails
4. Defeated 1st hokage, 2nd hokage, and Orochimru to defend the leaf.
5. Sensei of the legendary sannin
6. Wanted to avoid the destruction of Uchiha
7. Sacrificed his life for his village
8. Became the strongest hokage ever and was known as the strongest hokage during his time.

Good reasons xD. But i still see Tobirama and Danzo ahead of him. or maybe Him and Danzo tied for the second spot ^.^

you forgot number 1 dude: Itachi

how is he number 1??? he basically Mascaraed strongest clan of the village due to someone's orders. and he himself regrets it..

So u don't even put Itachi in?-.- SACRIFICED IS ****ING LIFE FOR THE LEAF YET OROCHIMARU GETS A PLACE AND HE DOESN'T? knobhead-.-

Uh cause Oro did more then Itachi.. duh. lol.

name 1 thing he did besides being used by Danzo..
 

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Good reasons xD. But i still see Tobirama and Danzo ahead of him. or maybe Him and Danzo tied for the second spot ^.^

I understand danzo, but what has tobimaru done other than the police force he created??
 

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You said he gave the leaf its jinchuriki back. What i meant was there still would have been a jinchuriki even if minato didn't make naruto one.





Nice. So are you saying Sacrifice and killing some people in the village to protect that very same village is above Making a system of shinobi??


This is what I was refferring to.


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Probably either Itachi Minato or Hiruzen. IMO, Danzo should be in the negatives, especially for that uchiha massacre fiasco.
 

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u put orochimaru up their and not itachi? the **** is this?
 

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WTF? Why is Madara there?! xd And you don't even have Itachi on your list?! If he let the war rage then Konoha would've been completely destroyed and this what have plunged the world into war. He's at least top 3 if not number 2.

I agree, although I think Naruto also did a lot.:ice::nexus:
 

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I understand danzo, but what has tobimaru done other than the police force he created??

" During his reign he was primarily responsible for establishing Konoha's organisational system. He established various organisations such as the Academy, the ANBU, the Chūnin Exams and the Konoha Military Police Force,[1]"

He basically made the system for the village =]

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Oh i get what you meant. But he tought that naruto would be the one to stop Tobi BUT did he know if it was true?? nope. I mean i would consider it a feat but its better to put it as in He saw that tobi was a great man and left plans to stop him ^.^
 

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" During his reign he was primarily responsible for establishing Konoha's organisational system. He established various organisations such as the Academy, the ANBU, the Chūnin Exams and the Konoha Military Police Force,[1]"

He basically made the system for the village =]




Oh i get what you meant. But he tought that naruto would be the one to stop Tobi BUT did he know if it was true?? nope. I mean i would consider it a feat but its better to put it as in He saw that tobi was a great man and left plans to stop him ^.^

Well he fully believed that it was true 100%, believing is knowing something will happen. He believed in the prophecy, he knew that it would come true, he even knew that Tobi was the one who bring the world into danger.
 

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Orochimaru. He has been messing with Akatsuki's plans, and created Yamato, who rebuild the entire village after Nagato's attack. Soon he will even bring the Hokages back.
 

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minato because with out him no naruto and naruto did the most
 

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Orochimaru. He has been messing with Akatsuki's plans, and created Yamato, who rebuild the entire village after Nagato's attack. Soon he will even bring the Hokages back.


Oh dang nice reasoning for Oro xD. i never thought of this much myself.

Well he fully believed that it was true 100%, believing is knowing something will happen. He believed in the prophecy, he knew that it would come true, he even knew that Tobi was the one who bring the world into danger.

True true.i guess he ties with tsunade. But im still not seeing this Yami.
 

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OP Fails. Itachi is not on the list. He byfar is on the top five along with the 3rd Hokage, Naruto, NAGATO (yes), and the ramenguy.
 

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OP Fails. Itachi is not on the list. He byfar is on the top five along with the 3rd Hokage, Naruto, NAGATO (yes), and the ramenguy.

before you say "OP fails" should give a reason how he surpasses Tobirama, Tsunade, Danzo... o_O
 
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Good reasons xD. But i still see Tobirama and Danzo ahead of him. or maybe Him and Danzo tied for the second spot ^.^



how is he number 1??? he basically Mascaraed strongest clan of the village due to someone's orders. and he himself regrets it..



Uh cause Oro did more then Itachi.. duh. lol.

name 1 thing he did besides being used by Danzo..

Killed his emotions and slaughtered the clan for the sake of the village. What did oro do? (besides killing the third hokage that is)
 

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Killed his emotions and slaughtered the clan for the sake of the village. What did oro do? (besides killing the third hokage that is)

uh i putted Jiraya AND ORO.... not just oro...... Those 2 were the sanins and the main powerhouses of Konoha who took on Danzo and etc.. And Oro did alot of dirty things for konoha

Also again he did what danzo told him to.. HE DIDN'T HAVE A SECOND CHOICE

1. Be with the uchiha and still get killed by Danzo's forces

2. Be with Danzo and kill the uchiha.

again that might be a heroic thing but it did not contribute to the leaf.
 

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Oh dang nice reasoning for Oro xD. i never thought of this much myself.



True true.i guess he ties with tsunade. But im still not seeing this Yami.

Lol, well I'm just trying to be fair. I can actually bring up a pretty good argument that Minato himself unknowingly put the Leaf in danger himself, and was thus just undoing his own mistake. But I'm debating on the Minato side, so that would only hurt myself.. xD
 

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before you say "OP fails" should give a reason how he surpasses Tobirama, Tsunade, Danzo... o_O

1. Itachi. Killed his entire clan and family, went rouge, all to keep the Leaf safe for the revolt. Let Sasuke live because he had nothing to do with it, and for him to rebuild the clans name and pride. AND for all that he was criminalized.

2. Naruto. Shouldn't need explaining, but: Saved the Leaf from the Sand back in part one. Helped find Tsunade when they were in need of a new Kage. Saved Gaara and formed an Alliance between the Leaf and Sand. Kicked the crap out of Pain, and talked to Nagato, resulting in the resurrection of every one that died during the invasion of Pain.

3. Nagato. Sure he killed every one, but he also revived every one at the cost of his own life, and passed his will and dream on to Naruto. Thus putting Naruto even more on the right path. (and because i like him...lol)

4. Ramen Guy....Nuff' Said.
 
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