When faced against strong enemies, Madara SUCKS!

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Remember this is all just my opinion.

I will start out this thread by quoting shikaku

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Legends from the distant past are always greatly exaggerated. I think that's the case with Edo Tensei Madara.

We were all in aw and amazed by Madara's speed, power, and abilities when he was first revived. But look at the shinobi he fought against. Although it was a large number of them they were probably all chuunin level, maybe even some jounin.

We all also thought that with EMS that there would be a power overload, but in reality the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan only does one thing: Prevent blindness. (This kind of foreshadows Sasuke's power). All of the techniques he has shown are nothing new. We've all seen susano'o, high level fire attacks etc.

Now once we saw that Madara had the Rinnegan. People were mind fucked into thinking this guy has insane power just because of the dojutsu he wields. Remember Zetsu himself said its not the weapon but how the person uses that weapon.

When it comes to using the Rinnegan, Nagato>Madara. He uses it more fluidly, and because Rinnegan is one of the highest level of Dojutsu I believe that Nagato is stronger than Madara. So are a lot of other current ninjas.


Nagato using paths in each situation.
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He's even capable of creating a meteor just like Madara was.
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Owned By Raikage
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Susano'o Melting
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Getting Owned again
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Gaara and Naruto> Madara

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His Susano'o was already proven useless against Gaara and Naruto. Now the Raikage and Mizukage. He has the same powers as the 6 paths with the Rinnegan + EMS techniques + Wood release, yet he is still getting owned on the battlefield.

Madara's power is exaggerated...


Edit: Oh yeah to all you Sasuke Fans this means he sucks too xd
 
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This could be true. Maybe he isnt really all that the legends made him out to be. But we have only just begun to see him in battle so who knows what he's really capable of
 

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madara is just testing them at the moment, I mean come on, he hasn't even used his MS abilities beside susano'o, so I doubt if we've seen what he can do with the rinnegan
 

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Im really tired, so apologies for not being able to comprehend what exactly you said in your thread, but im just assuming your talking about his defeat against the five kage. They are just that: the five kage. Madara might be legendary, but you dont get to be kage for being a pushover, especially when you have all five teaming up.
 

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i think its normal for him to face some dificulty...he is extremely powerfull but he is facing 5 of the most powerfull ninja.overwelming several gennin some chunnin and maybe some reckless jonnin is probably easy but to stand on equal ground with 5 kage that is hard...
 

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Madara is exaggerated, but he isn't going all out.
Lol he immediately went all out when he was first revived, but he's still getting pushed over.

yeah he's lookin pretty lame right now.
Yeah that's what I was thinking when I was reading. He could at least counter each attack he's just getting knocked around

Your opinion makes sense.
Thanks

I don't agree, I mean he is still "alive" right???
Nobody knows for sure.
madara is just testing them at the moment, I mean come on, he hasn't even used his MS abilities beside susano'o, so I doubt if we've seen what he can do with the rinnegan
Why would he use a single MS ability if he jumped straight to Susano'o I doubt he would go back to his other MS abilities. That's like Itachi using Susano'o when the battle starts then tries to hit you with tsukuyomi. Just doesn't make sense

I noticed that to. Ofcourse they are the five kages, but Madara really should be doing MUCH better than how he is.
Yeah that's what I'm saying. He could be doing a lot better. He's looking real ass out there in this fight.

Im really tired, so apologies for not being able to comprehend what exactly you said in your thread, but im just assuming your talking about his defeat against the five kage. They are just that: the five kage. Madara might be legendary, but you dont get to be kage for being a pushover, especially when you have all five teaming up.
It's all cool, Yeah he has 5 Kage's fighting him. But he has Rinnegan, EMS, and wood element on his side. Not to mention he is an Edo Tensei, so he does not tire out...
 

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He hasn't pulled out anything but Taijutsu, a few Meteors, and Susano'o
That isn't all out bro, especially for someone Overrated like Madara.
But if it is, I'll be disappointed and never read Naruto till Jan 1, 2012
 

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Madara could easily 1v1 anybody. EMS, Sussano, Huge Fireball, Wood Release and Rinnegan. I mean Madara > Nagato.

But come on he's fighting 5 Kages nobody could win against them.
 
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@chapelle he also used rinnegan, but went back to susano'o. as @hyperion said, we haven't seen him do anything really, it should be pretty obvious that he's just playing around for the moment, especially since he could have obsorbed that lava the same way he did rasenshuriken. just relax, he haven't even shown any worries.
 

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Well, you also have to look at facts from the other side.

1.Madara was known to have a battle SO intense with the 1st Hokage that he created the Valley of the End. Meaning that Madara is capable of keeping his own in a battle so intense that the land was ripped apart. I'm sure the Kyuubi played a part in this, but regardless.

2. Madara can summon the Kyuubi. He can't at the moment, but we all know that in order to summon an animal the size of the Kyuubi you have to have a chakra level proportionate to the size of the animal you summon. You also know that the Kyuubi at the time that he was summoning it was TWICE as large as it is now, but THIS ISN'T THE POINT. It's the KYUUBI. The very monster the FOURTH gave his life to take out. Technically speaking, the Kyuubi won. Minato is currently in the Death Gods Stomach, while the Kyuubi is still alive inside Naruto.

3. Oonoki has already shown to greatly fear Madara, having fought him in the past. Also, the fact that all five Kage felt that they needed to take Madara on suggests that he is strong just by that. Oonoki KNOWS what he can do, and Tsunade's grandfather fought him, likely knowing details about their battle. Gaara, and Mei are likely too young to know anything of him and are too distant in village to have info (as all assumed he was taken care of), and A may be old enough to know of him but was too distant and young at the time to have any dealings with him.

If we really think about it, each Kage should be able to take on at least two bodies of Pain each. Jiraiya took out four (animal path twice), and he's considered "Kage level".

Six Paths of Pain was one of the toughest fights for any singular Shinobi thus far. Each of those Kage could likely take out at LEAST two to four bodies by themselves, so that would be ten to twenty bodies of Pain.

If a group that could take out ten to twenty bodies of Pain is needed to take out Madara, then he MUST be pretty ****ING strong.

I don't doubt that this fight is lame so far, but it will get better, or possibly NOT end? I wonder if Tobi will escape from Naruto somehow. The fact that Madara and Tobi know each other but haven't conversed yet would irritate me.

No hard feelings for disagreeing Dave Chappelle because I normally agree with you, but I also think Madara is a complete badass so I have to defend him with my logic :-D.

Hashirama is more badass though. Wish he could be resurrected by a good guy so we could watch him and Madara go at it xP
 
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He hasn't pulled out anything but Taijutsu, a few Meteors, and Susano'o
That isn't all out bro, especially for someone Overrated like Madara.
But if it is, I'll be disappointed and never read Naruto till Jan 1, 2012
Taijutsu, ninjtusu, i think he used genjutsu on one of the non named. But he already spammed meteors that failed. Susano is failing. What else could he possible have
 

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Taijutsu, ninjtusu, i think he used genjutsu on one of the non named. But he already spammed meteors that failed. Susano is failing. What else could he possible have
I think its a bit unfair to say that nagato is better at handling the rinnegan than madara. I think its safe to say that we have seen the extent of nagatos power. If not, then close to it.

So far, all madara has done is absorb a rasengan and bring down meteors with relative ease, which is something nagato has not been shown to do. While i respect your opinion, it seems one sided simply because we have seen more of nagato than we have of madara.

And it does make sense to jump from to susanoo to another MS technique. Sasuke did it against danzo and won the fight. He started out with susanoo but, it was his tsukuyomi that ultimately won the fight for him.
 
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Yes agree man!! Madara and his eternal mangekyou rinnegan suck huge hairy gorilla balls. Eternal mangekyou rinnegan just sucks.

But yea seeing Madara getting pwned by Raikage brought a tear to my eye. Reminded me of his fight with Sasuke. Raikage didnt even go super saiyin 2 on him yet.
 
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