When faced against strong enemies, Madara SUCKS!

[AlphaSeed]

i usually go with the Chappelle guy on things but not when it comes to this fight... not to poke at you at all but when this fight started you were on the kage side to begin with, and i can see how your biased towards it although i did agree 1 man against the best 5 in the ninja world was kinda too much for Madara...BUT for one we saw the kage fight and finish fights and get flash backs of them in action so we see what they are capable of, Madara on the other hand we havnt seen really in action and id say the guy only been on the scene 30 min or so lol ....its obvious to me he is testing himself, stretching out the old 100 yr old bones so to speak lol, i really wish i knew how to do the show page thing to show the actual pages but here are the points i see that definatly says madara is toying right now. first he SAID he was testing himself out, he isnt even showing any expression of despair at ALL (EXCEPT for Naruto's rasengan, he stated "thats too much"),
he is having polite chit chat with Mu/Kabuto lol, he is looking at the kage's techniques in a "Vader" type way (starwars nerds will understand lol) by saying impressive etc., he is talking sht while fighting lol "lets see how good your defense is" , and he has not been scratched at all! lol (susano'o yes tho lmao) ...meanwhile, kage's damn near outta breath, being healed (30 min into the fight), taking risks of dieng using the teleport technique just to get there to save the others asses from one technique madara used and he took fraction of a second to do lol ...am i the only one that sees Madara is playing around? lol

example: Big bro Lil bro

Lil bro: im gonna kick ur ass this time !!!
big bro: bring it on lil man lol
lil bro: (punches big bro in the stomach)
big bro: (sarcasticly) ooooh, ooooouch, ya got me , that was impressive
lil bro: yeh told ya imma get u this time, thats why i pissed in your bed too!!
Big bro: (now he pissed) wtf!? u did what!? (shakes off lil bro's love tap and completely pwns his ass lol)

lmao xD

 

[yeahhh]

Remember this is all just my opinion.

I will start out this thread by quoting shikaku

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Legends from the distant past are always greatly exaggerated. I think that's the case with Edo Tensei Madara.

We were all in aw and amazed by Madara's speed, power, and abilities when he was first revived. But look at the shinobi he fought against. Although it was a large number of them they were probably all chuunin level, maybe even some jounin.

We all also thought that with EMS that there would be a power overload, but in reality the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan only does one thing: Prevent blindness. (This kind of foreshadows Sasuke's power). All of the techniques he has shown are nothing new. We've all seen susano'o, high level fire attacks etc.

Now once we saw that Madara had the Rinnegan. People were mind fucked into thinking this guy has insane power just because of the dojutsu he wields. Remember Zetsu himself said its not the weapon but how the person uses that weapon.

When it comes to using the Rinnegan, Nagato>Madara. He uses it more fluidly, and because Rinnegan is one of the highest level of Dojutsu I believe that Nagato is stronger than Madara. So are a lot of other current ninjas.

Nagato using paths in each situation.

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He's even capable of creating a meteor just like Madara was.

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Owned By Raikage

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Susano'o Melting

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Getting Owned again

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Gaara and Naruto> Madara

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His Susano'o was already proven useless against Gaara and Naruto. Now the Raikage and Mizukage. He has the same powers as the 6 paths with the Rinnegan + EMS techniques + Wood release, yet he is still getting owned on the battlefield.

Madara's power is exaggerated...


Edit: Oh yeah to all you Sasuke Fans this means he sucks too xd

I wont go as far to say he sucks, but he was defending against alot of high level attacks and didn't seem worried or phased. We have yet to see him on the offensive, I will save my opinions for when we see him attach and get womped on..

 

[BigTDogg220]

Remember this is all just my opinion.

I will start out this thread by quoting shikaku

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Legends from the distant past are always greatly exaggerated. I think that's the case with Edo Tensei Madara.

We were all in aw and amazed by Madara's speed, power, and abilities when he was first revived. But look at the shinobi he fought against. Although it was a large number of them they were probably all chuunin level, maybe even some jounin.

We all also thought that with EMS that there would be a power overload, but in reality the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan only does one thing: Prevent blindness. (This kind of foreshadows Sasuke's power). All of the techniques he has shown are nothing new. We've all seen susano'o, high level fire attacks etc.

Now once we saw that Madara had the Rinnegan. People were mind fucked into thinking this guy has insane power just because of the dojutsu he wields. Remember Zetsu himself said its not the weapon but how the person uses that weapon.

When it comes to using the Rinnegan, Nagato>Madara. He uses it more fluidly, and because Rinnegan is one of the highest level of Dojutsu I believe that Nagato is stronger than Madara. So are a lot of other current ninjas.

Nagato using paths in each situation.

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He's even capable of creating a meteor just like Madara was.

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Owned By Raikage

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Susano'o Melting

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Getting Owned again

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Gaara and Naruto> Madara

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His Susano'o was already proven useless against Gaara and Naruto. Now the Raikage and Mizukage. He has the same powers as the 6 paths with the Rinnegan + EMS techniques + Wood release, yet he is still getting owned on the battlefield.

Madara's power is exaggerated...


Edit: Oh yeah to all you Sasuke Fans this means he sucks too xd

Overall I agree except I don't think that Nagato is stronger than Madara. Nagato likely can use the rinnegan better than Madara, but he had his entire life to use the rinnegan while Madara only unlocked it near his death.

 

[-The Agent-]

A lot of you are not seeing the big picture of this thread. You are saying Madara is just testing their powers out? Think about it for a second. Madara is on the ropes right now believe it or not. Because he is underestimating how strong the new generation has become.

If he was really just "testing" them out:

1) Do you really think he would allow them to melt his suasnoo like that?
2) Allow Raikage and Tsuchikage to punch a hole through it.

What else does Madara have?
1) Meteors countered by Oonoki
2) Wood release can be countered by Mei, A, and Oonoki
3) They already know a weakness in Madara's Susanoo
4) Susanoo's attack was blocked now that Oonoki and Gaara are back to full health .
5) They can easily counter the Rinnegan by clouding it's field of vision.


I don't believe that he has many tricks left up his sleeve.

But I would like to point out in Kishimoto might prove me wrong in the next few chapters but for now I am standing by what I'm saying lol.

 

[EternalMangekyouRinnegan]

A lot of you are not seeing the big picture of this thread. You are saying Madara is just testing their powers out? Think about it for a second. Madara is on the ropes right now believe it or not. Because he is underestimating how strong the new generation has become.

If he was really just "testing" them out:

1) Do you really think he would allow them to melt his suasnoo like that?
2) Allow Raikage and Tsuchikage to punch a hole through it.

What else does Madara have?
1) Meteors countered by Oonoki
2) Wood release can be countered by Mei, A, and Oonoki
3) They already know a weakness in Madara's Susanoo
4) Susanoo's attack was blocked now that Oonoki and Gaara are back to full health .
5) They can easily counter the Rinnegan by clouding it's field of vision.


I don't believe that he has many tricks left up his sleeve.

But I would like to point out in Kishimoto might prove me wrong in the next few chapters but for now I am standing by what I'm saying lol.

He definetly has some tricks up his sleeve but they won't help much. There's no doubt that Madara will be sealed in next few chapters.

Oh, and poor Muu. He's now a punching bag for everyone. Raikage didn't even looked at him when he cut him in half on his way to pwn Madara xd

 

[Lividus]

Eh, he's only been around for four chapters, and he's only been fighting people in three. I really don't think thats enough time to judge how good he is. Apparently he's pretty good if they need all 5 kages to go up against him, 5 on 1 is going to be tougher, so yes, he will get hit now and then.

I think he's just playing around with them now. He's smiling in like, almost every frame. I keep picturing a Goku(dbz) giggling about being able to fight again when I read chapters 560-563, LOL. We havn't seen his power yet.

 

[AlphaSeed]

If he was really just "testing" them out:

1) Do you really think he would allow them to melt his suasnoo like that? yes he is edo gotta get sealed, plus when he knows he cant block or evade he did use the rinnegan

2) Allow Raikage and Tsuchikage to punch a hole through it. why not if there is no danger? refer to answer 1
What else does Madara have?
1) Meteors countered by Oonoki countered at the cost of a breath away from being finished, he couldnt even stand on his own 2 legs :/ Edit: also to defend that he is toying, why not drop another 5? lol ..what they gonna do then? also notice after he did go hard at them the whole field was fcked up lol and like 10 people were left breathing lol, wheres the fun in that? he fell back and started to play a lil lol

2) Wood release can be countered by Mei, A, and Oonoki if so why didnt they counter it? the fox gave naruto the power to block that

3) They already know a weakness in Madara's Susanoo
yeh but thats not a deal breaker, as i said before Susanoo wont be the deciding factor in this fight

4) Susanoo's attack was blocked now that Oonoki and Gaara are back to full health. and it took both of them to block it, something Sasuke did alone somehow

5) They can easily counter the Rinnegan by clouding it's field of vision. now this one is a win lol, but as another member said just use whatever path it was that pushes or the one the swallows jutsu, bottom line the rinne aint been used in the way nagato did yet, he obviosly knows them being he used one when it was NECESSARY

I don't believe that he has many tricks left up his sleeve.
dude you know as well as i do Kishi didnt mount up to this fight for it to be a slaughter on the kage or madara side :/ ..comon now lol, this is a good match...as stated

But I would like to point out in Kishimoto might prove me wrong in the next few chapters but for now I am standing by what I'm saying lol. dig that and same goes for me , we will see soon [/QUOTE]

 

[Disquiet]

A lot of you are not seeing the big picture of this thread. You are saying Madara is just testing their powers out? Think about it for a second. Madara is on the ropes right now believe it or not. Because he is underestimating how strong the new generation has become.

If he was really just "testing" them out:

1) Do you really think he would allow them to melt his suasnoo like that?
2) Allow Raikage and Tsuchikage to punch a hole through it.

What else does Madara have?
1) Meteors countered by Oonoki
2) Wood release can be countered by Mei, A, and Oonoki
3) They already know a weakness in Madara's Susanoo
4) Susanoo's attack was blocked now that Oonoki and Gaara are back to full health .
5) They can easily counter the Rinnegan by clouding it's field of vision.


I don't believe that he has many tricks left up his sleeve.

But I would like to point out in Kishimoto might prove me wrong in the next few chapters but for now I am standing by what I'm saying lol.

were not missing the big picture, madara himself said he was testing his abilities against them. this is what he said when mei shot lava at him, " I can't allow myself to be caught in a jutsu of that level" he was basically saying that it was weak, and he just moved, he didn't bother obsorbing it with rinnegan. he haven't even started testing his abilities yet. right now, he just trying to see what they have, and they shown him that they can break through his susano'o. that's all. his words have been, "oh..impressive" or "that's impressive too" he is nowhere near worried, so far, they haven't shown him anything that he can't stop.

 

[IntensitySage]

Your right Nagato is a way better Rinnigan user than Madara, But madara gots the EMS and wood techniques which makes him extra strong.

 

[GodSasuke]

Unless, you are blinded by stupidity. You can clearly see he was just testing them.

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When he mentions, Impressive offence. You should know he is being cocky as hell and just playing around with them. You can see the smirk in his face.Then when he mentions "How about your defense" he was testing their defensive skills.
I would say it now. Madara>All the motherfuc*king kage.

 

[wa7ed_56eer]

I believe that edo madara is waiting for something. He isnt going all out. HE could use some summoning techniques by using the reningin. Using all the 6 paths of raningen plus amatsuru plus some special ninjutsu or something. I mean damn he is so over powered. The only thing that might hold him back is chakra and i am pretty sure that he has a lot of chakra. When kyuubi in the fisrt episode of shipuuden complimenting saskue that he had a chakra similar to that of uchiha madara. Anyways if u guys got any thoughts please present them. and dont mind my spelling

 

[Dark Matter Thief]

Madara is just seeing what these kage are capable of doing, using his Susano'o to defend himself from their attacks. As of know he knows that:

Raikage uses lightning Shunshin, is very powerful when it comes to physical attacks, and is extremely fast.

Mizukage uses mist techniques and lava techniques.

Tsuchikage uses earth related techniques.

Gaara could use sand techniques and has an impressive defense.

And that Tsunade so far uses medical abilities and is very strong, physically.

Madara gathers this from analyzing his opponents and will devise a strategy against them. We haven't seen his other MS techniques and we haven't seen his complete form Susano'o.

 

[Narubro]

i mean, compared to your normal chuunin and jonin, they are LEGENDS. but compared to a main character, they arent as tough as they are said to be

 

[DaisukeUchiha]

Like people have said, the battle has just begun I really doubt he's even really trying so far.
Once it goes on a little longer he'll start using some of his true powers, he's just now 'testing the water' so to speak and seeing the strength of his opponents.
I believe he is a lot more powerful than any one of the kages, but against them all it will be difficult. He will still have the upper hand for a portion of the fight though, at the very least.

 

[NLee]

Madara is only seeing what they can do. It's clearly shown by what he's said throughout the fight in this weeks chapter. He's only measuring their strength.

When he gets serious and goes on the offensive it's going to be a different story

 

[YwtfoO]

I guess, as many people before, he tries to find out their skills, weaknesses and all that stuff. But at the other hand, I also believe he overrated himself, while he got bitchslapped by Raikage for example. It's not the right time to say he's kind of a letdown or somthing like that.
The fight is just about to start so basically everyone is still testing out their opponents abilities etc.
But I kinda understand you. I also agree with you to that point, that he looks kinda weak or overstrained right now and that he seems to be pushed back all time.

But I also think that Kishi has the plan to let everyone think he's not that beast. Therefore, he will show us some supernatural we can't imagine off.

My Opinion: Everyone should relax and enjoy the following chapters with great stuff to come !

 

[The Jinchuuriki]

What you've all gotta realise is, Madara died shortly after aquiring Wood release and the Rinnegan, he wont have had many worthy fights to test them out in otherwise the ninja world would have been aware of him after his apparent death...
To put it bluntly, he's a noob with the Rinnegan, probably having it for a couple months tops, yeah he knows his paths, but he's not fluid with it like the OP mentioned before... Nagato's had it for 20+ years... he mastered it to be fair to him, he just wasn't strong enough.
When you compare him to Rikudo Sennin he's weak with it, where as Madara is strong with it, he just can't match Nagato's skill with it...

Personally I believe Madara hasn't even started yet, infact if anyone thinks otherwise they're just stupid... yeah the legends over exadurate, but when Muu summons him he is scared shitless and states how the person behind the Edo Tensei clearly knows what they're doing, also Oonoki says how nobody is better to test your strength against than Madara Uchiha, they both knew of Madara and fought Madara in their days...
Sometimes the legends dont lie...

 

[kotoamatsukami]

A lot of you are not seeing the big picture of this thread. You are saying Madara is just testing their powers out? Think about it for a second. Madara is on the ropes right now believe it or not. Because he is underestimating how strong the new generation has become.

If he was really just "testing" them out:

1) Do you really think he would allow them to melt his suasnoo like that?
2) Allow Raikage and Tsuchikage to punch a hole through it.

What else does Madara have?
1) Meteors countered by Oonoki
2) Wood release can be countered by Mei, A, and Oonoki
3) They already know a weakness in Madara's Susanoo
4) Susanoo's attack was blocked now that Oonoki and Gaara are back to full health .
5) They can easily counter the Rinnegan by clouding it's field of vision.


I don't believe that he has many tricks left up his sleeve.

But I would like to point out in Kishimoto might prove me wrong in the next few chapters but for now I am standing by what I'm saying lol.

madara still has tsukiyomi or amateratsu,chubaki tensi,animal summon path,almighty push,an wat ever else he has.

 

[-The Agent-]

He definetly has some tricks up his sleeve but they won't help much. There's no doubt that Madara will be sealed in next few chapters.

Oh, and poor Muu. He's now a punching bag for everyone. Raikage didn't even looked at him when he cut him in half on his way to pwn Madara xd

Lol that's what I'm saying. People say he's toying with them but seriously they are fuc*ing him up. Toying with them means they're attacking and he's dodging everything. Not letting A and oonoki destroy his susanoo.

Unless, you are blinded by stupidity. You can clearly see he was just testing them.

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When he mentions, Impressive offence. You should know he is being cocky as hell and just playing around with them. You can see the smirk in his face.Then when he mentions "How about your defense" he was testing their defensive skills.
I would say it now. Madara>All the motherfuc*king kage.

Blinded by stupidity? Lol I have a right to my opinion. Read the reply above. If he was toying around he would have dodged Raikage's attack instead of getting owned.

madara still has tsukiyomi or amateratsu,chubaki tensi,animal summon path,almighty push,an wat ever else he has.

Not all Uchiha have Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu...

 

[Uchiha Paulsama]

its gonna take more than 1 person to beat him, his speed and taijutsu is insane, plus we dont know the full extent of his power, wait until we witness complete susannoo

i believe sasuke will be stronger than madara imo