When faced against strong enemies, Madara SUCKS!

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Madara isn't starting the fight right now. He's analyzing their powers. He could have easily shinra tensei everyone on the field.

Now he knows all of their powers.
 

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Round 1 goes to the Kages, but people, please be reminded that this is just Round 1. Everybody seems to be rejoicing to the fact that Madara was butt-kicked this chapter, haha. Hoping for a more exciting match here. Again, at the end though, it will be the kages that will win the fight.
 

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Madara isn't doing ANYTHING vs them except using susanoo. How is he overrated? Of course he will get pushed around only using susanoo vs 5 kages. The real battle hasn't started yet.
 

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I don't agree, I mean he is still "alive" right???
Well thats not technically correct he isn't alive he is an edo, also he has died and regenerated at least once already - from the meteor. Also it looks like he is starting to break up just after raikage punches the living day lights out of him
 
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I'm just grateful the Kages are doing as well as they are because some Madara fanboys last week were claiming Madara will kill them each one by one effortlessly. Let's hope they kick his ass a little while longer without him pulling out some instant win move like he did with his meteor trick.
 
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Remember this is all just my opinion.

I will start out this thread by quoting shikaku

Legends from the distant past are always greatly exaggerated. I think that's the case with Edo Tensei Madara.

We were all in aw and amazed by Madara's speed, power, and abilities when he was first revived.. ....

We all also thought that with EMS that there would be a power overload, but in reality the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan only does one thing: Prevent blindness. (This kind of foreshadows Sasuke's power). All of the techniques he has shown are nothing new. We've all seen susano'o, high level fire attacks etc.
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I agree with Shikaku quote. :) As for EMS Manga said/implied that EMS also gives birth to a new Doujutsu. Madara awoke rinnegan finally didn't he?

Someone above said about Madara not using much weapons yet- He used Itachi's final attack the Neckless in chap. 563 along with other things as well. I agree that battle is just starting and there will be more to see but, it would be wrong to say that Madara is not trying. He and MU/Kabuto will have to up their game.

As for the previous info about each other powers- Let's not forget it's not Madara but edo tensie raised by the Kabuto.

Kabuto has all the info needed- when he was first introduced in the series since then we know it was one of his especiality to keep record of all of the shinobies ablities and classify them. So what's known to Kabuto is known to Mu and Madara as well..

Yes agree man!! Madara and his eternal mangekyou rinnegan suck huge hairy gorilla balls. Eternal mangekyou rinnegan just sucks.

.. it's getting tiresome. Must you guys coninue it all over NB till eternity? Do you really think reporting to mods and thereby solving it neatly, is bad; and correct way to deal with it , is farting all over NB and involving other people( directly or not) in personal issues?

How long do you think people are going to be sympathetic to either of the parties involved?

And it's in no way directed only to you but all the parties involved. Best thing right now would be to let it go gracefully.
 
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I don't agree, I mean he is still "alive" right???
exactly....i didnt expect this to be easy for madara, but the fact that he's fighting 5....ALL CURRENT KAGE'S AT ONCE, it has to say something xD and the fact that he actually still exists after a whole chapter of action...that must also say something...i dont think even nagato with all of his paths would be able to do this...right now it doesnt seem like madara even took any critical damage...i know he cant die but...he's able to defend against combined attacks from effin kage's and live...that must say something...

so only the ppl who thought he was just gonna....blow the kage away....only the ppl who put madara on that pedestal of invincibility are shot to shame...seeing as how they thought this would be easy for even madara
 

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Well, you also have to look at facts from the other side.

1.Madara was known to have a battle SO intense with the 1st Hokage that he created the Valley of the End. Meaning that Madara is capable of keeping his own in a battle so intense that the land was ripped apart. I'm sure the Kyuubi played a part in this, but regardless.
That's true I'm pretty sure it's a mix between wood element and his susanoo that created that.

2. Madara can summon the Kyuubi. He can't at the moment, but we all know that in order to summon an animal the size of the Kyuubi you have to have a chakra level proportionate to the size of the animal you summon. You also know that the Kyuubi at the time that he was summoning it was TWICE as large as it is now, but THIS ISN'T THE POINT. It's the KYUUBI. The very monster the FOURTH gave his life to take out. Technically speaking, the Kyuubi won. Minato is currently in the Death Gods Stomach, while the Kyuubi is still alive inside Naruto.
Yeah he can summon the 9 tails because of his EMS. It's the reason why he can summon him at will. You can't really compare that to the 4th Hokage. He doesn't really have sharingan or wood release.

3. Oonoki has already shown to greatly fear Madara, having fought him in the past. Also, the fact that all five Kage felt that they needed to take Madara on suggests that he is strong just by that. Oonoki KNOWS what he can do, and Tsunade's grandfather fought him, likely knowing details about their battle. Gaara, and Mei are likely too young to know anything of him and are too distant in village to have info (as all assumed he was taken care of), and A may be old enough to know of him but was too distant and young at the time to have any dealings with him.
You're right it suggests them being strong but don't you think oonoki has gotten stronger over time, and the fact that the Madara should be able to use the Rinnegan's abilities to it's full potential? That's all I'm saying.
If we really think about it, each Kage should be able to take on at least two bodies of Pain each. Jiraiya took out four (animal path twice), and he's considered "Kage level".

Six Paths of Pain was one of the toughest fights for any singular Shinobi thus far. Each of those Kage could likely take out at LEAST two to four bodies by themselves, so that would be ten to twenty bodies of Pain.

If a group that could take out ten to twenty bodies of Pain is needed to take out Madara, then he MUST be pretty ****ING strong.

I don't doubt that this fight is lame so far, but it will get better, or possibly NOT end? I wonder if Tobi will escape from Naruto somehow. The fact that Madara and Tobi know each other but haven't conversed yet would irritate me.

No hard feelings for disagreeing Dave Chappelle because I normally agree with you, but I also think Madara is a complete badass so I have to defend him with my logic :-D.

Hashirama is more badass though. Wish he could be resurrected by a good guy so we could watch him and Madara go at it xP
Thing is they all went out on the battlefield because of the name. The exaggeration of how strong Madara is. But they are proving to own him. Technically Madara has the strenth of 6 paths of pain and EMS with Susanoo he should be owning from the start. For example when the Mizukage used her lava release he could have easily sucked that chakra in since that is one of the Rinnegan's abilities. Same with the Raikage's lightning armor.

Lol no hard feelings at all we all can't agree on everything, I actually appreciate someone disagreeing so I can keep this thread going. I want to see how long it lasts. + Rep

I agree though fight is pretty lame when madara is not trading blow for blow with them.

I kind of wish Hashirama would come back too. Or A clone of Naruto save Yamato give him a power up and he goes out there and Pwns Madara. That would be interesting to see.
 
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Any time it takes 5 Kages to take on One guy, your in the fight of your life. Madara is gaging their abilities right now felling them out so to speak.
 
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got to agree with Dave tho...Madara was awesome in the past but not in the present probably that's the main reason why Kabuto decided to bring him back with a few upgrades.
 

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@chapelle he also used rinnegan, but went back to susano'o. as @hyperion said, we haven't seen him do anything really, it should be pretty obvious that he's just playing around for the moment, especially since he could have obsorbed that lava the same way he did rasenshuriken. just relax, he haven't even shown any worries.
Exactly!

Some people just don't get it. Must everything be explained to them?

My word.
 

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Guys, Kishimoto is trying to make this battle of Madara vs. The Kages interesting. Ok? It wouldn't be a good show if it was one sided whether Madara was dominating everyone, or the Kages were smacking him around like a cat bats around a ball of yarn.

Look, Madara will retaliate. The kid gloves WILL come off. Remember, he has no intel on any of the Kages except Onoki. He's observing there moves while being defensive.
 
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Any time it takes 5 Kages to take on One guy, your in the fight of your life. Madara is gaging their abilities right now feeling them out so to speak.
Yeah he's in the fight for his life. But you're missing the face on how powerful he has the potential to be. He has the Rinnegan (power of 6 paths), EMS, AND Wood release. Lol you can't get more OP than that in terms of techniques that give you power. There's no need to test abilities when you're fighting 5 Kages. I would not have made this thread if he at least countered some of their attacks with his Rinnegan or Susano'o. Get me?


got to agree with Dave tho...Madara was awesome in the past but not in the present probably that's the main reason why Kabuto decided to bring him back with a few upgrades.
Yeah exactly new generation always surpasses the old. Naruto will pass his father. Shikamaru will surpass his. Gaara is better than his father. Madara may have been Ooverpowered strong in the past.

Exactly!

Some people just don't get it. Must everything be explained to them?

My word.
Lol You didn't read what I typed in my OP did you?
 

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Just a thought, if Madara was that good why would Kabuto made enhancements/add-ons to him prior to bringing him back in ET. Doesn't it shows that those enhancements are meant to keep him either at par or slightly ahead of the new gen?

but let's wait and see if he does pawn the kages next
 
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Yes agree man!! Madara and his eternal mangekyou rinnegan suck huge hairy gorilla balls. Eternal mangekyou rinnegan just sucks.

But yea seeing Madara getting pwned by Raikage brought a tear to my eye. Reminded me of his fight with Sasuke. Raikage didnt even go super saiyin 2 on him yet.
Lol Yeah Man Raikage is just getting started. He hasn't pulled out the infamous "Raikage Bitchslap" like he did with Sasuke.
 

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He's only reading their moves. I bet he's never showed them of the six path yet. Besides with his EMS he has a new technique awakened with that likewise the rinnegan+ mukton will also have a fearful technique that he hasn't showed yet
 

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Yeah he's in the fight for his life. But you're missing the face on how powerful he has the potential to be. He has the Rinnegan (power of 6 paths), EMS, AND Wood release. Lol you can't get more OP than that in terms of techniques that give you power. There's no need to test abilities when you're fighting 5 Kages. I would not have made this thread if he at least countered some of their attacks with his Rinnegan or Susano'o. Get me?
I'm going to disagree with you here.You're selling the kages short.I don't believe one man alone can take them on, no matter how overpowered the individual may be.

There's always a need to test out your opponents abilities, because that is the way you determine stuff like range, counters and more importantly knowledge for future stategies.This is exactly what madara is doing, hence the praising of the kages defense/offense.
 

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Well, it pretty much is difficult to say if Madara is overrated.

1. He has been solo fighting against the whole army so far.
2. We do not know if it's his full powers or if he is still holding back.
3. Five Kages are really one ultimate team.

But yeah. I'd have to agree that Madara got his ass handed to him, though he doesn't seem to be injured much. Really hope Hashirama makes an appearance in the manga soon. Either in a flashback or a resurrection!
 

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Exactly!

Some people just don't get it. Must everything be explained to them?

My word.
he even said multiple times that he just want to test his powers, they JUST attacked him, the battle haven't even really went anywhere, lol. all that really happended is that mizukage shot some lava at him, and then onoki lightened up raikage so that he punched him, lol. the battle JUST started.
 
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