What makes EMS Madara>Sasuke?

[Shinn Asuka]

A vast knowledge on uchiha , exprience , intelligence , uhhh , theres so much that its not becomes difficult to pick

 

[Shinn Asuka]

Sasuke and Itachi are easier to compare. For example Itachi had ms for a few years whilst Sasuke had it for(days? No idea how long it's been since the kage summit when he started using it a lot) but he's already surpassed Itachi at amatarasu and there's nothing to show much of a difference at how well they can use susanoo, Itachi's still ahead with tsukuyomi. That's the main reason why I don't think experience is a big deal, of course you need a little so you know how it works but it's not that much.

EMS>MS
i think sasuke can break tsukuyomi easier now

 

[Minator93]

This is EMS Madara, not edo Madara, which means he doesn't have all elements considering he doesn't have the rinnegan. And since when could Madara utilize wind? He's only used fire.

Didn't you know that he used to have that War Fan the one Tobi possess. Also its pretty clear from the Hashirama vs Madara Video.

This is awful logic.

Sasuke's shown his battle prowess time and time again. Both against Deidara and Danzo. Your answer for Madara is pretty silly and doesn't help your case.

Against Danzo it was all Karin also Danzo was holding Back thanks to Tobi

Sasuke's susanoo is also capable of having 4 arms as shown here.

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Sasuke can utilize magmata as well except they're all amaterasu. Madara's susanoo does have the advantage of legs and 360 coverage, but Sasuke's has armor and a shield to give it protection. And again this is EMS Madara, not Edo Madara, so he can't utilize clones because he doesn't have mokuton.

But who says that He can only Do Makuton clones? The fact that he did it so easily and arrogantly says that he must've used that before [not ws clones but other types]

And One more thing is that we are yet to see the Complete Susanoo from Madara who knows how strong is that

It's been stated in the manga by the kyuubi that Sasuke's chakra is very comparable to Madara.

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It only meant that Sasuke's Chakra type is draker as was Madara's but that doesn't mean that both have the same AMOUNT of chakra

The fact is there's really nothing that puts Madara over Sasuke other than experience and that doesn't account for much considering both Sasuke and Naruto have beaten shinobi much more experienced than them.

LOL Sasuke hasn't beat anyone on his own except Deidara [a hot-head] and he had his team-mates helping him [Suigetsu summoned him]

Danzo Fight as stated earlier on. Killer Bee Kicked his Ass but his team saved him. No need to talk about Itachi.


Furthermore it seems that you've completely forgotten about Madara's Genjutsu prowess. Sasuke is shit in genjutsu whereas Madara was the only one to control a perfect Jinchuriki and also he talks about Mugen Tsukuyomi the Ultimate Genjutsu I thimk that suffices.

 

[Naruto cool]

Madara finish saucekay I 1 minute or less easily

 

[wridacule]

Maybe the fact that the 5 kage's killed sasuke 3 times technically and EMS Madara is now currently raping them.

how did this not end the thread?! this one is simple to me. sasuke struggled to fight with one kage at a time while madara is posted up with his arms folded stylin on all five of them:sy:

 

[Midday]

how did this not end the thread?! this one is simple to me. sasuke struggled to fight with one kage at a time while madara is posted up with his arms folded stylin on all five of them:sy:

you are the prime example of an idiot sasuke couldnt handle raikage madaras dominating 5 kages and if you payed attention he can use dust realease

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You do know we're talking about ems Madara. Who would have been taking out by Naruto, Oonoki and Gaara fairly easily. Also this is ems Sauske not Sasuke's first attempt at susanoo. Read the thread before calling people idiots.

 

[~MC117~]

More experience using EMS, probably smarter using the sharingan since all sasuke does is spam sharingan techniques everywhere, he was able to control kurama (sasuke probably can but that's debatable) more chakra/stamina and he was a legendary ninja before he awaken the rinnegan so yeah EMS>EMS sasuke by far

 

[Minator93]

I'll Give You Guys a simple Analogy :

The Strongest Shinobi [Individual w/out tb or ET] of all time [Except so6p and his sons] is Hashirama

And Hashirama = EMS Madara and that's a fact.

We still dunno what really happened in that Match or Madara's true Agenda as well but we still know EMS Madara = Hashirama.

EMS Madara can SOLO the current 5 Kages [If alive and in his prime] Where as

EMS Sasuke << Itachi,Minato,Kabuto,Onooki,Naruto and Many More. So dear Sasuke Fan-boy please close this shit.

 

[-Vegeta-]

Didn't you know that he used to have that War Fan the one Tobi possess. Also its pretty clear from the Hashirama vs Madara Video.

Video is non canon and there's no proof that his war fan utilizes wind.

Against Danzo it was all Karin also Danzo was holding Back thanks to Tobi

No it wasn't. Sasuke figured out izanagi on his own and beat Danzo on his own. I'll post the scans to if you really want to deny it.

But who says that He can only Do Makuton clones? The fact that he did it so easily and arrogantly says that he must've used that before [not ws clones but other types]

There's no evidence that he can use clones without mokuton, so no he can't use clones without Hashirama's dna.

And One more thing is that we are yet to see the Complete Susanoo from Madara who knows how strong is that

And that's why we're juding what we've seen.

LOL Sasuke hasn't beat anyone on his own except Deidara [a hot-head] and he had his team-mates helping him [Suigetsu summoned him]

That doesn't change the fact that he beat Deidara. Sasuke outsmarted him and was simply more skilled than him, which pretty much shows his fighting prowess.

Danzo Fight as stated earlier on. Killer Bee Kicked his Ass but his team saved him. No need to talk about Itachi.

He beat Danzo on his own and if you really think otherwise then I suggest you go re-read the manga.

Furthermore it seems that you've completely forgotten about Madara's Genjutsu prowess. Sasuke is shit in genjutsu whereas Madara was the only one to control a perfect Jinchuriki and also he talks about Mugen Tsukuyomi the Ultimate Genjutsu I thimk that suffices.

Anybody with MS can control the kyuubi. The manga states as such. Sasuke was even able to suppress its chakra with a base sharingan. It's not that impressive of a feat.

It only meant that Sasuke's Chakra type is draker as was Madara's but that doesn't mean that both have the same AMOUNT of chakra

And when was Madara noted for having an immense amount of chakra? I only recall him being stated to have a very powerful chakra.

 

[Midday]

I'll Give You Guys a simple Analogy :

The Strongest Shinobi [Individual w/out tb or ET] of all time [Except so6p and his sons] is Hashirama

And Hashirama = EMS Madara and that's a fact.

We still dunno what really happened in that Match or Madara's true Agenda as well but we still know EMS Madara = Hashirama.

EMS Madara can SOLO the current 5 Kages [If alive and in his prime] Where as

EMS Sasuke << Itachi,Minato,Kabuto,Onooki,Naruto and Many More. So dear Sasuke Fan-boy please close this shit.

The two strongest shinobi of all time? Nagato and Tobi would beat them mid diff.

Ems Madara < Naruto's clone, Oonoki and Gaara.

This is ems Madara.

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This is what you're talking about which is rinnengan madara.

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[kyle340]

Nothing actually.

People simply use baseless assumptions when they say it, but in reality Madara hasn't shown anything with EMS that puts him above Sasuke.

This

 

[hit a lick]

EMS Madara is forsure better than Sasuke, but why? Sasuke's special MS ability is Amaterasu, Madara's is unknown. Sasuke has great battle battles, but Madara really hasn't shown expertise in that department. Sasuke has raiton, enton and katon. Madara just has been shown using katon. EMS Madara fought Hashirama and put up a hell of a match. If Sasuke fought Hashi, he wouldn't last a minute. Is the great difference between EMS Madara and Sasuke just due to Madara's enormous chakra levels? Whatcha think?

sasuke and naruto are madara and hashirama of this time do not compare them. and. if naruto fought madara he wouldnt last a minute

 

[JiraiyaMk]

this is shit is for a fanboy whit imaginatcion

 

[Blunt]

sasuke and naruto are madara and hashirama of this time do not compare them. and. if naruto fought madara he wouldnt last a minute

If they are the madara and hashi of this time, how come we cant compare them? Also you are saying Naruto wouldn't last a minute vs madara? troll.
Sasuke and Naruto stand a healthy chance against him. Your post makes absolutely no sense.
Sasuke EMS > Madara EMS

 

[wridacule]

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You do know we're talking about ems Madara. Who would have been taking out by Naruto, Oonoki and Gaara fairly easily. Also this is ems Sauske not Sasuke's first attempt at susanoo. Read the thread before calling people idiots.

lol can't be mad when you use the wire to own me. also my bad for getting which madara the thread was about wrong...but it doesn't really change my mind on hime being better than sauske. i would love to see how sasuke would handle naruto gara and tsuchi all by himself...

 

[Blunt]

i would love to see how sasuke would handle naruto gara and tsuchi all by himself...

Madara is not fighting Naruto so that is irrelevant..

 

[wridacule]

Madara is not fighting Naruto so that is irrelevant..

dude posted a pic of when gara pulled madara out of the susano'o and got hit with rasen shurikan ....

 

[Minator93]

Video is non canon and there's no proof that his war fan utilizes wind.

Ohh I didn't know that Fans were used for Water techniques or say Earth

No it wasn't. Sasuke figured out izanagi on his own and beat Danzo on his own. I'll post the scans to if you really want to deny it.

And i guess this is for nothing??

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There's no evidence that he can use clones without mokuton, so no he can't use clones without Hashirama's dna.

Ohh boy. Sorry I didn't know the Man who was feared by all and whose mere name was enough to cause all 5 nations to unite couldn't perform a clone jutsu?? :flaw: :flaw:

That doesn't change the fact that he beat Deidara.

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Tell me how was he gonna survive this on his own? Does he have s/t the no one knows about??

Here Suigetsu saved his ass :

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He beat Danzo on his own and if you really think otherwise then I suggest you go re-read the manga.

Ohh boy!

Here it clearly shows Danzo sving his chakra for Tobi

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Just as danzo predicted Tobi Tried to intervene

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Anybody with MS can control the kyuubi. The manga states as such.

Oh Really ?? The Manga also says that you can't control a perfect Jinchuriki but somehow Madara did control Yagura [A perfect Jinchuriki]


Also I really liked the way you completely ignored the part about Genjutsus.



One Last thing that I wann post for all Sasuke Fans :

Onnoki about to 1-shot Sasuke

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The Same Onnoki [in his prime] against Madara

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The last panel speaks Volumes.​

 

[zombiejesus]

i have ssaid this several times madara is a bench mark to show us what saskue will be capable of saskue will be stronger later on stronger than itachi and madara and no i am not a fanboy but come on you have to see this coming

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

No s*** EMS Madara is better than Sasuke, but there's really no good reason why.
Elemental releases:
Sasuke- Lightning, Blaze, Fire
EMS Madara- Fire
Battle tactics:
Sasuke- Amazing. Look at his fights against Deidara and Danzo for proof.
Madara- Extremely smug and underestimates his opponents.
Susano'o: (About even)
Sasuke- Extremely precise and deadly quick arrows. Also, Amaterasu-balls.
Madara- Legs and four arms. Also has Magatama.
Chakra, 1-10:
Sasuke- 8
Madara- 10(hype)
So the statistics show that Sasuke should be a little better, but isn't

Madara and Hashi fought for days. How is his chakra hype?