Valley of the End loss?

[Retsu]

I disagree, Naruto was on the ground unconscious, even if he lost on purpose, he still lost. I see no tie when Sasuke could have finished him off had he chosen to, a loss is a loss, and that's exactly what naruto took when he let Sasuke win

Naruto knew sasuke was going to strike him yet he struck the headband on Purpose to prove a point and because sasuke told him he couldnt... Naruto did what he said he would... Sasuke was given the oppurtunity to do what he said he would but didnt out of respect for his friends power... and naruto knew if sasuke had the chance to kill him he wouldnt... Naruto took that chance and was right.,.. SO ITS A TIE

I stand by my first statement, even if he lost on purpose, he still lost

 

[Reborn]

As much as I don't like Sasuke, and I really, really don't like him. I mean this is my worst character, he is the only character I dislike that Kishi has made...Anyway as much as I hate to admit it...no I don't hate to admit it. Give credit where credit is due. Sasuke won that match against Naruto..

There are no "What if's" "what this one could've done but didn't" or anything like that. The fact that Sasuke was standing conscious over Naruto, who was unconscious, means Sasuke won that match. Sasuke had room to kill as he was still conscious and moving. It doesn't matter that Naruto could have went for Sasuke's chest...he didn't. It doesn't matter if the Rasengan was stronger then chidori, Naruto's aim wasn't to kill, and just because Naruto could have done the same to Sasuke, he didn't. What Naruto could have done but didn't do, doesn't mean it was a tie, it just means Naruto didn't do what it took to win the match, even if it mean hurting/killing Sasuke. Naruto's intent wasn't to really hurt/kill and Sasuke's was. Sasuke went for it, Naruto didn't. Naruto could have but he didn't, so he lost. After a battle has ended, there are no "what ifs" or "what a character could have done but didn't" there is only "what happened" and "what a character did do" and that tells the story.

Sasuke Uchiha vs. Naruto Uzumaki at the Valley of Ends, resulted in victory for Sasuke Uchiha, because he immobilized his opponent by rendering him unconscious with his jab and was still standing with full mobility, enough to walk away or even kill his opponent. Just because neither died doesn't make it a tie either, it is who "able to still fight" over who is "unable to fight" every time.

I am a huge Naruto fan, anybody who knows me knows how much I dislike Sasuke, but I'm not a crybaby about it. Naruto lost to Sasuke and anybody who says otherwise is being very biased, and isn't using logic, nor being fair to Sasuke's character. Despite how you might feel about Sasuke (whether you hate him heavily or not) and Naruto (whether you like him or not), use reason, judgment, and logic. Be fair to the character even if you don't like him.

 

[Senju clan24]

As much as I don't like Sasuke, and I really, really don't like him. I mean this is my worst character, he is the only character I dislike that Kishi has made...Anyway as much as I hate to admit it...no I don't hate to admit it. Give credit where credit is due. Sasuke won that match against Naruto..

There are no "What if's" "what this one could've done but didn't" or anything like that. The fact that Sasuke was standing conscious over Naruto, who was unconscious, means Sasuke won that match. Sasuke had room to kill as he was still conscious and moving. It doesn't matter that Naruto could have went for Sasuke's chest...he didn't. It doesn't matter if the Rasengan was stronger then chidori, Naruto's aim wasn't to kill, and just because Naruto could have done the same to Sasuke, he didn't. What Naruto could have done but didn't do, doesn't mean it was a tie, it just means Naruto didn't do what it took to win the match, even if it mean hurting/killing Sasuke. Naruto's intent wasn't to really hurt/kill and Sasuke's was. Sasuke went for it, Naruto didn't. Naruto could have but he didn't, so he lost. After a battle has ended, there are no "what ifs" or "what a character could have done but didn't" there is only "what happened" and "what a character did do" and that tells the story.

Sasuke Uchiha vs. Naruto Uzumaki at the Valley of Ends, resulted in victory for Sasuke Uchiha, because he immobilized his opponent by rendering him unconscious with his jab and was still standing with full mobility, enough to walk away or even kill his opponent. Just because neither died doesn't make it a tie either, it is who "able to still fight" over who is "unable to fight" every time.

I am a huge Naruto fan, anybody who knows me knows how much I dislike Sasuke, but I'm not a crybaby about it. Naruto lost to Sasuke and anybody who says otherwise is being very biased, and isn't using logic, nor being fair to Sasuke's character. Despite how you might feel about Sasuke (whether you hate him heavily or not) and Naruto (whether you like him or not), use reason, judgment, and logic. Be fair to the character even if you don't like him.

Nice book Oprah...

 

[HinataAzula]

I completely agree that it was a tie. Why do u guys think Sasuke joined Orochimaru in the first place? Answer is because Naruto kept tying and surpassing Sasuke. And I like both characters so i'm not being biased. Naruto being KO'ed has nothing to do with Sasuke its because of the nine tails chakra. Sure Sasuke was still conscious (barely) but thats only because of Orochimarus chakra... its just not as powerful so it doesn't take as much of a toll. Remember Naruto is also holding the nine tails in check along with fighting Sasuke.

 

[Degrees]

Sasuke won get over it move on.

Forget about who hit who first. Sasuke woke up before Naruto and could have killed him instead he walked away.

Also Sasuke didn't make Naruto lose control of his jutsu by punching first both showed mercy on each other. Sasuke jabbed and Naruto scratched both didn't actually hit the Rasengan and chidori.

 

[Reborn]

Nice book Oprah...

Ignorence, shows that you have nothing better to say, come back with something better and maybe I'll turn my head in your direction.

 

[Retsu]

Nice book Oprah...

You're one to talk, you take this too philosophically, you seem to be the type of fellow who can't see the woods because there are too many tree's in the way, Naruto lost, it's that simple

 

[Reborn]

You're one to talk, you take this too philosophically, you seem to be the type of fellow who can't see the woods because there are too many tree's in the way, Naruto lost, it's that simple

He's just being ignorent, remarks like that, after others have given them something they can't defend against, is their only way of defense, insult the person to try and lower them to their level. If you don't let them lower you it just shows how much lower they are for even trying so it doesn't really bother me, but I agree, despite my dislike for Sasuke, he was the clear winner.

 

[HinataAzula]

sorry guys but there is more to losing than just physical it is also mental if u don't understand that then that's your loss. and

He's just being ignorent, remarks like that, after others have given them something they can't defend against, is their only way of defense, insult the person to try and lower them to their level. If you don't let them lower you it just shows how much lower they are for even trying so it doesn't really bother me, but I agree, despite my dislike for Sasuke, he was the clear winner.

if u have to explain that then it didn't work lol

 

[Retsu]

He's just being ignorent, remarks like that, after others have given them something they can't defend against, is their only way of defense, insult the person to try and lower them to their level. If you don't let them lower you it just shows how much lower they are for even trying so it doesn't really bother me, but I agree, despite my dislike for Sasuke, he was the clear winner.

Yeah, as much as I hate to give credit where credit is due, Sasuke beat Naruto, had Naruto won then Sasuke would've been drug back to the village, and truthfully I was shocked at his off hand remark, no need to call folks names ya know

 

[Senju clan24]

You're one to talk, you take this too philosophically, you seem to be the type of fellow who can't see the woods because there are too many tree's in the way, Naruto lost, it's that simple

Your right lol the both of you fanboys ....but Lets see if Naruto shows Sasuke Mercy when they face off in the Final fight... OPRAH,OPRAH,OPRAH,OPRAH "hehe" (Naruto voice)

 

[Retsu]

Your right lol the both of you fanboys ....but Lets see if Naruto shows Sasuke Mercy when they face off in the Final fight...

You of all ppl trying to call someone a fanboy, itz lolz, seriously, you tried so hard to say Naruto won when it's clear he didn't, I'll just let you live in fantasy land and say yeah, He did win, I'm through now, good bye

 

[Degrees]

Man I hate fanboys.

 

[Reborn]

sorry guys but there is more to losing than just physical it is also mental if u don't understand that then that's your loss. and

if u have to explain that then it didn't work lol

We're talking about the physical aspect of this fight there is no mental state with this really. Nobody cares about the mental state of each character when refering to this battle, we're talking about who walked away from that fight as the victor, don't try to add aspects into a fight because that just makes it sound desprate IMO (and I don't mean to sound rude, if you believe me to be coming off that way)

Explaining it doesn't take away the truth behind what I said. I wasn't trying to hurt him, I was trying to say the truth, which I stated. What you say "it didn't work" I'm not looking for anything to work, I'm stating cold fact.

Yeah, as much as I hate to give credit where credit is due, Sasuke beat Naruto, had Naruto won then Sasuke would've been drug back to the village, and truthfully I was shocked at his off hand remark, no need to call folks names ya know

Excatly there's no need, only the desire, which shows what type of character that person is.

Your right lol the both of you fanboys ....but Lets see if Naruto shows Sasuke Mercy when they face off in the Final fight...

See now you're calling us fanboys and changing the topic to the "Final Fight"

Naruto IMO can take down Sasuke now, what's you're point, you're straying from the subject you threw out there. We're talking about their fight at the Valley of Ends, and you're changing the subject again.

Seriously man come at us with some substance, instead of feeling the need to change the subject you, yourself posted about. This statement had nothing to do with you're own subject that you brought up

 

[Jack Spicer]

I don't even see how this is viewed as a tie. Sasuke had Naruto beaten. Naruto was knocked out, and Sasuke wasn't. Sasuke won, clearly.

 

[Senju clan24]

I said it was a tie i Never said Naruto Won ...ASS
if you ever faught someone maybe youll know that fights are more than just physical and even in unconciousness and achieveing to scratch his headband naruto changed Sasukes prioritys and his main goals by makeing a sacrifice.... THATS WHY ILL SAY TIE

 

[Reborn]

I said it was a tie i Never said Naruto Won ...ASS
if you ever faught someone maybe youll know that fights are more than just physical and even in unconciousness and achieveing to scratch his headband naruto changed Sasukes prioritys and his main goals by makeing a sacrifice.... THATS WHY ILL SAY TIE

That's a little better from you're previous statements.

I'll go onto ask, how did Naruto change Sasuke's priorities and his goals?

Sasuke still left, he still joined Orochimaru, he still desired revenge against Itachi. Sasuke didn't change a bit. As I said before, adding an in the mental aspect of a fight shows a little desperation to try and prove that you're right (again, not being rude), when there is more evidence against you're point.

No tie.

 

[Senju clan24]

That's a little better from you're previous statements.

I'll go onto ask, how did Naruto change Sasuke's priorities and his goals?

Sasuke still left, he still joined Orochimaru, he still desired revenge against Itachi. Sasuke didn't change a bit. As I said before, adding an in the mental aspect of a fight shows a little desperation to try and prove that you're right (again, not being rude), when there is more evidence against you're point.

No tie.

His goal main goal during his fight Naruto was to kill him...and when Naruto wasted his chance at harming Sasuke just to prove a point it changed how sasuke felt about acheiving the MS

 

[Retsu]

I said it was a tie i Never said Naruto Won ...ASS
if you ever faught someone maybe youll know that fights are more than just physical and even in unconciousness and achieveing to scratch his headband naruto changed Sasukes prioritys and his main goals by makeing a sacrifice.... THATS WHY ILL SAY TIE

This statement is full of #Fail, you talk like you're some special golden glove boxer philosopher, plz just stop, your statements become more and more dumber each post ten bucks sayz you never been knocked out, or knocked anybody out.

Stick to what you know boy, watchin cartoonz

 

[Senju clan24]

His goal main goal during his fight Naruto was to kill him...and when Naruto wasted his chance at harming Sasuke just to prove a point it changed how sasuke felt about acheiving the MS

Therefore a TIE