Tsukuyomi overrated and hyped up

[thegame]

Again you fail so hardly, Mr Hashirama, it's sad.

Sure Sasuke escaped it, cause he is an Uchiha. You can always escape a genjutsu, if you are a master in genjutsu urself, thus you can develop genjutsu counter, trapping your opponent in a genjutsu instead.

Bee escaped it? ROFL don't make me laugh. He went beast mode, that isn't the same. Hachibi wouldn't be affected by it, so it just took control and went on rampage. Besides Sasuke hasn't Tsukuyomi on Itachis level

Fact is. Any shinobi in the entire narutoverse, will lose to Itachi with no knowledge at all. The eye contact will be invietiable. Even your great Hashirama will be one shot by it.
Read the databook on it, if you have doubts...

 

[Strata Uchiha]

Sasuke got out ^_^


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I call "hax" on Kishimoto's part, or Itachi let Sasuke out.

Tsukiyomi isn't full proof though. Remember, if one is clever enough to use a Shadow/Water Clone and conceal there presence from Itachi, then Tsukiyomi won't work.

 

[iSpeak]

Yea it is.... go look again, idk where the hell you people gettin the idea that only Itachi's Tsukuyomi is instant..

No it isn't.... if it was instant, Killer Bee wouldn't be able to break out of it. You realise the genjutsu was cast on him in the air right? and he was broken out of it a while after he had hit the floor. Infact, he even spoke whilst in the genjutsu. That isn't an instant.

Itachi just manipulates his better aka his is more advance.. EVERY GENJUTSU IS INSTANT.. it is not like Ninjutsu or Taijutsu.

Instant as in the whole genjutsu is cast and finished in an instant.... are you trying to say every genjutsu does that? because that is completely wrong and would be pointless.

Disrupting the chakra flow of the body can break Tsukuyomi.. but you have to realize, Kakashi was in tsukuyomi not for just couple of seconds.. but minutes.. and he was already scared.

But they won't have time to disrupt their chakra...
On the outside world, the Tsukuyomi that itachi used on Kaskashi lasted an instant, but inside the illusion itself, it lasted 3 days.
And like I said, since there is no time to counter Tsukuyomi on the outside world, the only way of countering it is from within the illusion itself which only the Sharingan can do.
An Example: Mirror Heaven and Earth Change works in a similar way, except it reverses the genjutsu instead of breaking it

"It's a form of illusion reversal, but in order to instantly read through a technique and cast it in return, the Sharingan's power is necessary".

This is why Itachi said only someone with the Sharingan can break it. It may not be 100% accurate but he knew what he was talking about.

And i mentioned how the damage occurs.. cause thats all that matter. since the Hitting time for every genjutsu is instant.

Itachi's Tsukuyomi is cast and finished in an instant, that is what I am trying to say.
Btw, that for the rep.

 

[Bogard]

Tsukiyomi is a one shot tech though.

Itachi put Kakashi and Sasuke in a coma for weeks with Tsukiyomi. Itachi could of ended both of there lives with a mere kunai afterwards.

Like i've said, it depends on the spirit of the opponent, but also on the duration of the tsukuyomi world in question. This thread may enlighten you maybe:

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Notice that after receiving tsukuyomi, Kakashi was still able to talk and even stand by himself for quite a while before collapsing and even 8yo Sasuke didn't even receive the mental damage at that moment

 

[VongolaX]

Huh...cute thread.

Your first fallacious point lies in what you say about Sasuke. While it's true Sasuke used Tsukuyomi on Killer Bee, he only broke out of it as Sasuke's Tsukuyomi and Genjutsu in general is inferior to Itachi's. Namely, that Sasuke cannot manipulate time in his, which brings me to my next point, that Sasuke's is not instant. This was something that was attested by Tobi in Sasuke's bout with Danzo. [

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With the above in mind, Itachi's Tsukuyomi is instant, as described on two canonical occasions. [

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] Kakashi also claims that there is no cancelling the effects of it. This is because Itachi's Tsukuyomi and I will repeat again for those who cannot comphrenend this simple fact, that it is Itachi's Tsukuyomi which cannot be broken by normal means, unless you're an Uchiha; something which was proven when Sasuke broke out of it in their destined battle. Additionally, Kakashi did not survive Tsukuyomi himself; Tsunade healed him. And this was because Itachi went easy on Kakashi, like Kakashi himself stated: "He could have killed me if he wanted to..."

Riddle me this: how can you break a technique that affects you in an instant? To put the conjecture forward that:

• One must recognize the Genjutsu.
• Then one must cancel it's effects before an instant has occured. :|

Makes no sense...

Like Kakashi said, it's effects cannot be cancelled. And to break a technique faster than an instant makes absolutely no sense.

Thus, to use Sasuke as an example is completely illogical and fallacious. Though, like I said, cute thread.​

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Completely right. By the way, badass sig

 

[Douryoku]

Completely right. By the way, badass sig

Thank you. Though, what sig? xd​

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[VongolaX]

By that logic your using, your implying that if the infinite tsukyomi was to take place. Everyone cn just clap their hands and............*poof*
genjustu free right? SMH

 

[VongolaX]

Thank you. Though, what sig? xd​

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my bad avatar, i need a sig like that is what i ment to say

 

[Strata Uchiha]

Like i've said, it depends on the spirit of the opponent, but also on the duration of the tsukuyomi world in question. This thread may enlighten you maybe:

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Notice that after receiving tsukuyomi, Kakashi was still able to talk and even stand by himself for quite a while before collapsing and even 8yo Sasuke didn't even receive the mental damage at that moment

Are you sure because Itachi has only performed Tsukiyomi on people with the Sharingan. My theory is that if you don't have that or a Bijuu to disrupt your chakra then it's all over for you.

 

[Bogard]

Are you sure because Itachi has only performed Tsukiyomi on people with the Sharingan. My theory is that if you don't have that or a Bijuu to disrupt your chakra then it's all over for you.

8yo Sasuke had no sharingan, yet he received no mental breakdown

 

[BlacLord™]

Kakashi and Sasuke have been mentally pummeled and made unconcious by Tsukuyomi.

In fact, Kakashi started at 100% stamina and then within three seconds, he was at 0%.

 

[Strata Uchiha]

8yo Sasuke had no sharingan, yet he received no mental breakdown

That had to have been a regular genjutsu.

 

[wizzyguy]

This technique is so hyped up by the fans of Itachi.. why? Cause of the page where Itachi says only the ones who are related to him, can break it.. lmao. So based on that page people basically cut off the "normal way" of canceling a genjutsu, chakra disruption, from the list of ways to stop Tsukuyomi. Which is freaking wrong.


Sasuke Uchiha used Tsukuyomi on Killer B, how was Killer B able to comeback? oh yea, because of Chakra disruption.

Tsukuyomi is a Genjutsu, all genjutsus are the same, they deal with chakra manipulation inside the victim's body. So Tsukuyomi is no different. People like SM Naruto and Jiraya and others who are able to disrupt their chakra and have strong minds (Otherwise it will affect you mentally , like it did to Kakashi) can break out of it.


Stop overrating something, that follows the simple law of breaking a Genjutsu.

Tsukuyomi is nothing special, if your talking about breaking it.

How can you break something when its instant?

 

[Twin Steps]

I wholesomely agree

 

[RoguePatriot]

Tsukuyomi is INSTANT. It can't be broken. And Sasuke never had it in the first place. You need to check your facts.

 

[insid3rkil3r]

8yo Sasuke had no sharingan, yet he received no mental breakdown

Because Itachi's point was to kill Sasuke by using the full effect of his Tsukuyomi right....?

Itachi was showing flashbacks of him killing the clan to snap some hate and desire to kill Itachi into his brother's head....

 

[~Supreme Itachi~]

oh right?
because TSUYKOYOMI will 1 hit minato

tsukoyomi will 1 hit j-man

yeah very over rated

HAHAHAHAHA

itachi>>>>minato via TSUKOYOMI

and deal w/ it

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[KingHashirama]

No it isn't.... if it was instant, Killer Bee wouldn't be able to break out of it. You realise the genjutsu was cast on him in the air right? and he was broken out of it a while after he had hit the floor. Infact, he even spoke whilst in the genjutsu. That isn't an instant.



Instant as in the whole genjutsu is cast and finished in an instant.... are you trying to say every genjutsu does that? because that is completely wrong and would be pointless.



But they won't have time to disrupt their chakra...
On the outside world, the Tsukuyomi that itachi used on Kaskashi lasted an instant, but inside the illusion itself, it lasted 3 days.
And like I said, since there is no time to counter Tsukuyomi on the outside world, the only way of countering it is from within the illusion itself (which only the Sharingan can do)
An Example: Mirror Heaven and Earth Change works in a similar way, except it reverses the genjutsu instead of breaking it

"It's a form of illusion reversal, but in order to instantly read through a technique and cast it in return, the Sharingan's power is necessary".

This is why Itachi said only someone with the Sharingan can break it. It may not be 100% accurate but he knew what he was talking about.



Itachi's Tsukuyomi is cast and finished in an instant, that is what I am trying to say.
Btw, that for the rep.

Killer B broke out of it once he was caught in the genjutsu... not before..... You can speak in a genjutsu.. its not a big deal. By your definition of instant genjutsu.. Itachi's genjutsu isn't instant either.

Tsukuyomi inside Kakashi's head was still going on during the fight.. it wasn't a 1 second thing.

A person can Disrupt their chakra in Genjutsu.. or even one of their senses.

There is no reversing a genjutsu.. all the things have to do with Chakra disruption.. whether its Itachi and Sasuke breaking out of Kabuto's or Sasuke breaking out of Itachi's. ALL have to do with chakra disruption. Unless you can find where it says , it doesn't.

 

[Owarij]

Your original premise is false by making the assumption that Sasuke's tsukyomi is even remotely comparable to Itachi's, and thus your outcome conclusion was fallacious

Tsukyomi is instant in the real world but feels like days in your head... according to asuma's description, While itachi was talking, kakashi just collapsed.. This isn't a normal genjutsu that can be broken by cancellation effects, as Kakashi said...

 

[yellowxflash]

yes hashi beats itachi