Tobirama or Kisame?

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Kisame obviously. Dunno where people got the idea Tobirama got hyped in terms of suiton. All is said is that he was a skilfull suiton user, nothing more
 

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Tobirama fanboys never cease to amaze me.

A] Experience and better intelligence doesn't mean a single shit when you can't counter or match your opponent's techniques at all.

B] If better intelligence is what wins your battle then Neji wouldn't have got beaten by Kisame's clone and Obito wouldn't have lost to Naruto and Sasuke.

C] you better stop soloing this thread
 

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Kisame? Lel

Tobirama shits all over that fodder Lol
 

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So Kisame could have beat Izuna, who was on par with Madara? Please explain that. Because Tobirama beat Izuna with his Suiton style
 

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Tobirama was world renowned for his suiton, his water stream tech is underrated, it can easily 1 shot summons and ppl who aren't wary, and we know he can use the water dragon bullet move with 1 hand seal. he easily counters Kisame's water dome and ninjutsu eating shark with ftg. In my eyes tobirama is superior.
 

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Lol. This turned from a Suiton vs Suiton to Kisame vs Tobirama in an instant.
 

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People forget to realize that Tobirama is the ONLY ninja in the series to use Suiton as an offensive weapon with destructive feats.

As in cutting through Rock and cutting through the God Tree using Water alone.

Me Personally I believe Kisame can win for two reasons:

1) Samadah

2) He can breath underwater

Tobirama greatest struggle will be seperating the two which is impossible if they merge together. And with Kisame Wide Area of a water globe even FTGing out will only allow Tobirama to flee and thus cause him to lose the battle.

People will argue Tobirama reflexes and speed but underwater it means nothing considering Kisame is by far the fastest person under water considering he out ran Killer Bee under water and Kill bee is pretty fast


OT: Tobirama is the better suiton user. He uses High pressure Suiton for damage and can creater Water walls from nothing
 
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Sorry

OT: "Also, Tobirama had considerable chakra control, able to use the Water Release: Water Dragon Bullet Technique, with a single hand seal, while the technique usually requires a multitude of them" Straight from Narutopedia
 

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So Kisame could have beat Izuna, who was on par with Madara? Please explain that. Because Tobirama beat Izuna with his Suiton style

he did with his FTG fcking dumbass
 

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So Kisame could have beat Izuna, who was on par with Madara? Please explain that. Because Tobirama beat Izuna with his Suiton style

A > B > C logic is pathetic. It doesn't apply to Naruto. If your A > B > C logic applied to Naruto then Chiyo and Sakura would be capable of defeating Deidara since they managed to ''defeat'' Sasori and Deidara admitted inferiority to Sasori. Pathetic. And furthermore, Kisame would defeat Izuna who was on par with Madara. Your hype doesn't mean anything when Izuna doesn't have feats that put him above Kisame.
 

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Nope I still feel that way.

Water dome, water prison, thousand feeding sharks, giant water shark bullet would take Tobirama in a Suiton fight.


Road to Ninja movie.

Nope, only one jutsu you mentioned is a A-rank jutsu. Zabuza naruto first real villain could do most of those moves. Tobirama could control every Molecule of water, even from the air to increase his techniques.
 

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Hype : Tobirama
Feats : Kisame

No. People need to realize that even hype doesn't put Tobirama's Suiton above Kisame's. Unless Tobirama has some magical Suiton that can't be absorbed, GSB will absorb any of Tobirama's hype Suiton and become stronger. Kisame is the better Suiton user. No matter how you look at it.
 

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you again? you Fabboy Tobirama and minato over 9000!!!!

tobirama can't win a Suiton fight with Kisame

Let Kisame stand in front of Tobirama first Lol Your precious Lord ****** shat when Tobirama raised 1 finger

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Hype : Tobirama
Feats : Kisame

Tobirama has used 3 water styles jutsu, 2 B-rank (half strength), 1 A-rank full strength. Kisame only used more jutsus, not more powerful jutsu.
 

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Let Kisame stand in front of Tobirama first Lol Your precious Lord ****** shat when Tobirama raised 1 finger

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thats Called Perfect reaction Time noob :rolleyes:


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Kisame pees on Tobirama in terms of Suiton feats; he literally has nothing on Kisame's level.

As said before, make comparisons after Tobirama has gone since he's barely shown any feats.
 
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