That really doesn't change anything. You're completely disregarding the contextual frame here as at that point no one even know what it meant to be a WB commander. If he wasn't Luffy's brother, he most likely wouldn't have been introduced there. He was introduced in that arc as Luffy's brother, the bit about WB only became relevant hundreds of chapters later and as I said the WB crew was never an opposing crew they would have to beat. You're just nitpicking on something irrelevant.Ace was introduced as aYou must be registered for see linksbefore he was Luffy's brother the next chapter over. And as forYou must be registered for see linksand nothing more when he was first introduced too as well.
There's no definite order like I said before but the only reason why we know Dogtooth is stronger his because of his 1 billion bounty. We know that it's common sense that he's the strongest (unless you're Uzumaki Macho) based on his bounty being the highest so we stick to this no questions asked, so why would Jack be an lower if he's essentially Dogtooth's threat equivalent?
You said so yourself that it needs to be balanced. Even Ace who is 2nd division is lower than Big mom's top 4 generals. Even though bounties are not 100% accurate when it comes to threat levels, it's pretty damn near close andYou must be registered for see linksso we know that there's a strength requirement in becoming one. Which my point still stands about this bounty thing. It wouldn't make sense for Jack to be weaker given hisYou must be registered for see linksthan anybody else in Kaido's crew unless Oda is trying this new unorthodox approach like he did with Sanji and Zoro. Zoro beingYou must be registered for see linksby his colleagues is now a few bounties less than Sanji the third or maybe even forth strongest in the crew now that Jimbei has now joined.
edit: Jack getting smashed by Zushina is very understandable because it's an island. I don't expect anyone who isn't Whitebeard's level of strength to take a hit from an elephant shaped island.
I'm talking about threat level not pirates vs rebels. Even though the revolutionaries are not pirates, there's leader is still the most dangerous man in the world and the chief of staff's bounty is no shy of proving how formidable those people are.
Sure Sabo is young but his bounty is higher than most people who are older than him. Big mom's generals are naturally higher than everyone else because she has a reputation for having the strongest family (crew).
Dogtooth was introduced as the last Sweet Commander, with the highest bounty on top of being regarded as one of the biggest problems on that very same page you posted, this on a moment everyone was expecting soon an all-out brawl. I don't even get the point you're trying to make here as you've just confirmed what I said previously.
I've also said that Smoothie's bounty isn't far of either from Jack's, so why can't Jack be her equivalent? Which means there is still someone above him. In another thread I stated my expectation is that the strongest Calamity will have a bounty of around 1.1B, which makes it a 100m higher than Jack and ~50m higher than Dogtooth. Overall the Calamities would have slightly higher bounties, but these are so high the difference is negligible and thus keeping the crews balanced.
Ace was still a recent addition to WB's crew and Ace hadn't been for that long a pirate either. In contrast people like Vista, Joze and Marco have been WB members for decades. It has also never been explicitly stated, though many people assumed, that the chronology of the division numbers reflects their strength. It's very well possible there are several other commanders who had higher bounties than Ace. What Shanks' said doesn't make a difference either as no one is denying that Ace was weak enough to lead a division and it's pretty self-explanotry that they need to have a certain amount of strength. I don't get why you keep bringing the WB pirates up as that's a completely misplaced reference.
I explicitly said that Zunisha battering Jack didn't make him weak, but from the point of view of the plot it's underwhelming as we see very early on what is supposed to be the strongest soldier of Kaidou getting one-shotted. It doesn't matter that no one else would have been able to stop it, it matters that it was Jack that got pummeled.
Then just don't bring the RA up. You completely disregard the context of the story. The RA and the WB pirates have no relevance here whatsoever. The role they have/had is completely different from those of BM and Kaidou and everyone knows that the bounty reflects the "threat level", however in practice there's a strong correlation here with strength. You're just being highly confusing here by bringing it up repeatedly.
And BM doesn't have the reputation of having the strongest crew.
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