Techniques overrated by Fans

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Tobirama's Suiton.

 

[Steinbiz]

True said. Only haters are arguing that FTG is overrated because they know FTG is fking awesome.

Exactly, my 2nd favorite character is Minato, I won't lie. But sometimes I feel bad for everyone else in the manga because FTG is just so damn overpowered. It's a bitter-sweet that FTG exists. Good because Minato doesn't have a tailed beast or bloodline limit, yet he can still beat pretty much anyone, but bad because he's overpowered(broken) as hell. I don't know of 1 single person alone that could defeat BM Minato in a fight. Besides Juubito of course.

 

[KingHashirama]

@people saying "bashing on Minato"... no one is bashing on the characters. Since the discussion is about the jutsu not the person.

Killer Bee was marked so Minato could had assassinated him any day , any time but He didnt do that because Minato is a good person.

Yea same can be said for killer B.. he let Minato Go.... =].

He's dodging it. If you can dodge why counter? It's not my fault the tech doubles as both a means to attack and a means to evade. Here's a question for you. Has anyone since the beginning off this manga dodged ftg? Whether it be minato's or tobirama's.

But dodging is also ONE OF THE WAYS to counter something. As I stated you are overhyping something that is not overhyped.

They do not need to dodge ftg, but react to it. And Killer B has done so, you denying it and creating assumptions is only creating a further argument where the burden of proof relies on you.

I didn't ask you that. I asked for scans of someone countering FTG or dodging FTG.
Killer bee's attempt at mutual death isn't a counter. He'd still be dead to.

Now, can I get my scans?

Do you not have hands to go look up the scans for yourselfs on the events that i talked about, or do you need someone to feed you stuff?

Countering something doesn't mean you overpowering it.. you can counter something and stalemate it also.

Yes, Kishi(a.k.a. the manga) doesn't want to show FTG being unavoidable. But who besides Juubito(a god jinchuuriki mind you) has shown they can survive/evade an FTG attack from Minato?

Either way, once they found out senjutsu works on Juubito, that was pretty much GG for Juubito at that point. So yes, as far as I'm concerned, FTG is pretty much GG. Don't really see anyone surviving BM Minato's FTG house-sized Rasengan blitz. :erm:

Yes sadly the problem is FTG was used to GG Obito now was it =].

By your logic , how can anybody counter Totsuka sword ? no physical attack can block totsuka and dodzing dont count as countering. then how can Totsuka be countered ??

No you were implying dodging is the only way to countering FTG.. when I'm saying it isn't.

 

[RikudouMadara]

So your saying be didn't feel minato tap him?

Well...in a way yes, but also...I'm not an expert on Minato and the chapters he's affiliated with. So I was asking mostly. I believe Minato had every intention to place that mark there in the guise of the slash. Minato isn't one to make a careless mistake allowing an enemy to notice something like that I believe.....

So I suppose yes I'm saying Bee didn't notice that mark.....either that, or Minato was sloppy in his approach. As Bee does show to be surprised, startled when Minato appears behind him. Understand I mean no disrespect....I'll even leave this alone if you want....I initially was only just asking. XD

 

[KingHashirama]

Well...in a way yes, but also...I'm not an expert on Minato and the chapters he's affiliated with. So I was asking mostly. I believe Minato had every intention to place that mark there in the guise of the slash. Miato isn't one to make a careless mistake allowing an enemy to notice something like that I believe.....

So I suppose yes I'm saying Bee didn't notice that mark.....either that, or Minato was sloppy in his approach. As Bee does show to be surprised, startled when Minato appears behind him. Understand I mean no disrespect....I'll even leave this alone if you want....I initially was only just asking. XD

You could've countered him by saying "So are you saying Killer B > Jin Obito, who also didn't notice the mark of Tobirama"

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Well...in a way yes, but also...I'm not an expert on Minato and the chapters he's affiliated with. So I was asking mostly. I believe Minato had every intention to place that mark there in the guise of the slash. Minato isn't one to make a careless mistake allowing an enemy to notice something like that I believe.....

So I suppose yes I'm saying Bee didn't notice that mark.....either that, or Minato was sloppy in his approach. As Bee does show to be surprised, startled when Minato appears behind him. Understand I mean no disrespect....I'll even leave this alone if you want....I initially was only just asking. XD

The surprised Mark came not from killer b but from the shinobi next to killer be. 543 page 2.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Exactly, my 2nd favorite character is Minato, I won't lie. But sometimes I feel bad for everyone else in the manga because FTG is just so damn overpowered. It's a bitter-sweet that FTG exists. Good because Minato doesn't have a tailed beast or bloodline limit, yet he can still beat pretty much anyone, but bad because he's overpowered(broken) as hell. I don't know of 1 single person alone that could defeat BM Minato in a fight. Besides Juubito of course.

Actually it's just minato's FTG that's OP. Tobirama's isn't at all. It's pretty balanced. The thing that breaks minato's FTG is what he has that tobirama doesn't;

1) He can teleport within a seal radius whereas tobirama can only teleport directly at it
2) He can implement FTG with kunais
3) He can open a warp dimension to transport something with his ftg (S/T Barrier)
4) He can transport large numbers of things simultaneously

His extremely fast speed and reflexes just make all of the above far worse. But, apparently King hashirama knows something he doesn't want to say.

Do you not have hands to go look up the scans for yourselfs on the events that i talked about, or do you need someone to feed you stuff?

That's the best argument you have? Pointing me to scans of mutual death? Do you even have scans to support the fact that killer bee could land the hit? I'm waiting for your proof that minato could dodge fast as lightning V2 ay but couldn't dodge a swing from killer bee.

Please feed me. Apparently you have proof none of us know of yet you're unwilling to disclose it.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

@people saying "bashing on Minato"... no one is bashing on the characters. Since the discussion is about the jutsu not the person.



Yea same can be said for killer B.. he let Minato Go.... =].



But dodging is also ONE OF THE WAYS to counter something. As I stated you are overhyping something that is not overhyped.

They do not need to dodge ftg, but react to it. And Killer B has done so, you denying it and creating assumptions is only creating a further argument where the burden of proof relies on you.



Do you not have hands to go look up the scans for yourselfs on the events that i talked about, or do you need someone to feed you stuff?

Countering something doesn't mean you overpowering it.. you can counter something and stalemate it also.




Yes sadly the problem is FTG was used to GG Obito now was it =].



No you were implying dodging is the only way to countering FTG.. when I'm saying it isn't.

1. Killer be didn't dodge him.
2.killer be didn't react but anticipated. I already explained this.
3. Nobody had dodged ftg. Ever. Point blank.

I already told you how to counter it. Stop them from jumping, but has anyone done this yet? No.

 

[mrcrazyboyravi]

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[RikudouMadara]

The surprised Mark came not from killer b but from the shinobi next to killer be. 543 page 2.

Are you saying that a hidden cloud ninja from Bee's village put that mark on Bee?

@KingHashirama Understood, but I'm not trying to counter lol. Just trying to understand his understanding of what took place. Although...I feel I should just leave it alone as I'm not a Minato expert. I'm probably wrong anywho. Lol

 

[BenjerminGaye]

You could've countered him by saying "So are you saying Killer B > Jin Obito, who also didn't notice the mark of Tobirama"

Tobirama used the same mark multiple times yet juubito couldn't do shit about it. He knew of the tags existence as well.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Are you saying that a hidden cloud ninja from Bee's village put that mark on Bee?

@KingHashirama Understood, but I'm not trying to counter lol. Just trying to understand his understanding of what took place. Although...I feel I should just leave it alone as I'm not a Minato expert. I'm probably wrong anywho. Lol

I'm saying he was the one surprised to see the mark. Not bee. He's also the one that says out loud that bee was marked.

 

[RikudouMadara]

I'm saying he was the one surprised to see the mark. Not bee. He's also the one that says out loud that bee was marked.

I see...but doesn't Bee's face show surprise as well? He is even shown with a bit of sweat.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I see...but doesn't Bee's face show surprise as well? He is even shown with a bit of sweat.

nope. I just checked it.

 

[RikudouMadara]

nope. I just checked it.

Hmm...fine. Although it does look very much like surprise to me.

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What really keeps knocking at my curiosity....is where did Bee show to know that he had been marked at anytime before Minato was behind him?

 

[KingHashirama]

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I laughed at the last one, Stabbing someone who couldn't moved or anything sure seems like a good feat now a days with Minato fans and Madara fans.

Tobirama used the same mark multiple times yet juubito couldn't do shit about it. He knew of the tags existence as well.

Juubito defended against it after the first time... come on man.. this information isn't even that old.

That's the best argument you have? Pointing me to scans of mutual death? Do you even have scans to support the fact that killer bee could land the hit? I'm waiting for your proof that minato could dodge fast as lightning V2 ay but couldn't dodge a swing from killer bee.

Please feed me. Apparently you have proof none of us know of yet you're unwilling to disclose it.

"mutual death".. but why are you denying that mutual death? But the thing is hence he stated If Minato moves to attack him first.. he'll just give it right back.

Sadly you are freaking insulting Killer B's intelligence.. get real mate. Stop fanboying one character while underrating the other.

Actually I did provide proof, I do not have to post scans to provide you proof, I can simply refer to the event that happened and make you search for it, that is proof. Not only that as I said burden of proof is on you. Because if Minato went for the kill on Killer B, he would've been killed also, if you believe in something else provide proof. Don't put the burden of proof on people who are going with the manga.

 

[miromiro]

Kamui. I mean seriously, if it "soloed" everyone that easily, Obito could have just Kamui'd each enemy he has encountered.

 

[Tobby17]

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here is obito reacting to an attack with ftg, and NO Tobirama's ftg is NOT slower than Minato's

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Madara's meteors, they will never be used again, Totsuka, Kakashi's Kamui, Katsuyu, Flying.

 

[mrcrazyboyravi]

I laughed at the last one, Stabbing someone who couldn't moved or anything sure seems like a good feat now a days with Minato fans and Madara fans.





Juubito defended against it after the first time... come on man.. this information isn't even that old.


"mutual death".. but why are you denying that mutual death? But the thing is hence he stated If Minato moves to attack him first.. he'll just give it right back.

Sadly you are freaking insulting Killer B's intelligence.. get real mate. Stop fanboying one character while underrating the other.

Actually I did provide proof, I do not have to post scans to provide you proof, I can simply refer to the event that happened and make you search for it, that is proof. Not only that as I said burden of proof is on you. Because if Minato went for the kill on Killer B, he would've been killed also, if you believe in something else provide proof. Don't put the burden of proof on people who are going with the manga.

The point was Everybone trying to kill Obito because he was about to rinne tensei Madara but only Minato managed to slit the throat of Obito in an instant. That was also to prove a point that if minato ever tagged some1 its for ever. hence Minato can kill any 1 in an instant, that included Killer B too.