Techniques overrated by Fans

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Sure denying that Killer B could've killed Minato if Minato went for the kill on Killer B .. is your choice.

Plus, I don't recall Minato taking on any Kages in a 1 vs 1.

Being the best doesn't mean Minato will go on fighting useless fights just to prove his strenght. Dat minato :D
 

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- why aren't you applying your logic of "not countering the technique itself" like you did to FTG, now you simply stated stopping what the technique was meant for = countering..

- I'm referring to when Minato was getting Kamui'd and he FTG'd somewhere far away.

- Notice how you focused on Minato on the offense.. while my scenario was about Minato being the one who counters..



There is literally 0 proof of this.. just so you know.




And you assume I need your approval or something?

If the thread is "shit" you post just contributed to a whole lot of that, especially sense others are actually arguing on good terms about it.

Scans of anyone countering FTG.
I'll even make it easier. Scans of someone dodging it.

Please and thank you.
 

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- why aren't you applying your logic of "not countering the technique itself" like you did to FTG, now you simply stated stopping what the technique was meant for = countering..

- I'm referring to when Minato was getting Kamui'd and he FTG'd somewhere far away.

- Notice how you focused on Minato on the offense.. while my scenario was about Minato being the one who counters..



There is literally 0 proof of this.. just so you know.

How can you counter another person's tech if you strike first? What? That makes no sense. If I strike first you're countering my moves. And vise versa.

In your first situation madara strikes first. In the other situations minato struck first. Unless you're saying someone other than the sage himself can strike faster than minato...

And for the proof bit. Your saying killer bee didn't feel minato touch his tentacle?
 
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Scans of anyone countering FTG.
I'll even make it easier. Scans of someone dodging it.

Please and thank you.
Since when does countering = dodging?

Killer B put Minato in a stalemate, whether he was anticipating it or not. Facts are Facts. Burden of proof is not on me, but on you. What I'm stating is clear in the manga and stated so, what you are claiming is not.
How can you counter another person's tech if you strike first? What? That makes no sense. If I strike first you're countering my moves. And vise versa.

In your first situation madara strikes first. In the other situations minato struck first. Unless you're saying someone can strike faster than minato...
- I suggest you go read them again, How does Minato dodging Ay's spear = Minato attacking first? Or how Obito Kamuin Minato and Minato using FTG to run away from it = Minato attacking first?
 

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Now show me the heart size difference of Minato compared to others..... o_O. Raikage attacked Minato.. minato dodged.. and you automatically assumed Minato > Ay no diff? #flawed logic? Minato survived for about how long? 30 seconds barely? rofl. Sorry but Killer B was going to end him, whether you like it or not.

Lol, dude you're embarrassing yourself.

You honestly think a little stab would kill Minato after seeing what I just showed you? Your brain is flawed.

Minato would going to kill Ay, but he hesitated and Killer Bee jumped in.

Why does that matter? His spine was ripped apart, his lungs, and everything.
 

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He saw the marking on his tentacle and waited for minato to jump to him. After all that's the only new marking on the battlefield. And the only marking ay wouldn't account for.

I see.....I understand, but where did Bee show to have known? He even shows to have been surprised by his facial reaction.
 

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Lol, dude you're embarrassing yourself.

You honestly think a little stab would kill Minato after seeing what I just showed you? Your brain is flawed.

Minato would going to kill Ay, but he hesitated and Killer Bee jumped in.

Why does that matter? His spine was ripped apart, his lungs, and everything.

But who said it was going to be a little stab? Do you think Killer B a guy who has probably killed a whole lot people doesn't know a little stab can kill someone? rofl.

Only problem is that he caught him by surprise. He couldn't do it to a Ay who was aware of Minato's jutsus.

"Why does it matter".. idk you tell me you bothered to mention it.
 

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Lol, dude you're embarrassing yourself.

You honestly think a little stab would kill Minato after seeing what I just showed you? Your brain is flawed.

Minato would going to kill Ay, but he hesitated and Killer Bee jumped in.



Why does that matter? His spine was ripped apart, his lungs, and everything.
If Minato had any intention to kill the top-tier A , then he could had easily done that , similarly Minato could had killed B any day because he was marked. but Minato didnt do that because he didnt want a war between two nations. That's how great peoples think.
 

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But who said it was going to be a little stab? Do you think Killer B a guy who has probably killed a whole lot people doesn't know a little stab can kill someone? rofl.

Only problem is that he caught him by surprise. He couldn't do it to a Ay who was aware of Minato's jutsus.

"Why does it matter".. idk you tell me you bothered to mention it.

Killer Bee was marked so Minato could had assassinated him any day , any time but He didnt do that because Minato is a good person.
 

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Since when does countering = dodging?

Killer B put Minato in a stalemate, whether he was anticipating it or not. Facts are Facts. Burden of proof is not on me, but on you. What I'm stating is clear in the manga and stated so, what you are claiming is not.

- I suggest you go read them again, How does Minato dodging Ay's spear = Minato attacking first? Or how Obito Kamuin Minato and Minato using FTG to run away from it = Minato attacking first?

He's dodging it. If you can dodge why counter? It's not my fault the tech doubles as both a means to attack and a means to evade. Here's a question for you. Has anyone since the beginning off this manga dodged ftg? Whether it be minato's or tobirama's.
 

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Since when does countering = dodging?

Killer B put Minato in a stalemate, whether he was anticipating it or not. Facts are Facts. Burden of proof is not on me, but on you. What I'm stating is clear in the manga and stated so, what you are claiming is not.

I didn't ask you that. I asked for scans of someone countering FTG or dodging FTG.
Killer bee's attempt at mutual death isn't a counter. He'd still be dead to.

Now, can I get my scans?
 

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I don't think Kirin is overrated

PS: i think Hiruko can counter FTG, with his steel skin jutsu, physical attacks don't work on him, you have to pull somthing like FRS
 
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Since when does countering = dodging?

Killer B put Minato in a stalemate, whether he was anticipating it or not. Facts are Facts. Burden of proof is not on me, but on you. What I'm stating is clear in the manga and stated so, what you are claiming is not.

- I suggest you go read them again, How does Minato dodging Ay's spear = Minato attacking first? Or how Obito Kamuin Minato and Minato using FTG to run away from it = Minato attacking first?

By your logic , how can anybody counter Totsuka sword ? no physical attack can block totsuka and dodzing dont count as countering. then how can Totsuka be countered ??
 

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Couple I can think of:

- FTG : Yes it holds prowess in the manga and has huge hype when it comes to normal ninja. However, fans put Minato on God level due to this technique.. when the technique is not regarded that high at all. Most Kage level ninja can counter this tech. I mean with the logic used for this technique , Tobirama should regarded higher than Hashirama , since he can simply put a seal on him and solo him right? yea well the manga is against that.

- Jinton: all the "Jinton GG".. yea sadly that isn't the case seeing as Madara beat Muu and Onoki without even trying hard..but fans want to create scenarios with the whole "jinton GG".


Please be sure to state the others that you find that way. And this is simply my opinion don't get hurt over it. Also not bashing characters in the thread. Thank you.

Yes, Kishi(a.k.a. the manga) doesn't want to show FTG being unavoidable. But who besides Juubito(a god jinchuuriki mind you) has shown they can survive/evade an FTG attack from Minato?

Either way, once they found out senjutsu works on Juubito, that was pretty much GG for Juubito at that point. So yes, as far as I'm concerned, FTG is pretty much GG. Don't really see anyone surviving BM Minato's FTG house-sized Rasengan blitz. :erm:
 

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wow 4 pages and not a single good argument on how to counter FTG, or how its overrated.

welcome to Minato hater threads. They don't provide any logical arguments. Or any arguments for that matter.
 

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wow 4 pages and not a single good argument on how to counter FTG, or how its overrated.

True said. Only haters are arguing that FTG is overrated because they know FTG is fking awesome.
 

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FTG is over-rated as hell, maybe :I

I wonder what kind of ''perverted things'' he did with FTG while he was with jiraiya u.u
 

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Yes, Kishi(a.k.a. the manga) doesn't want to show FTG being unavoidable. But who besides Juubito(a god jinchuuriki mind you) has shown they can survive/evade an FTG attack from Minato?

Either way, once they found out senjutsu works on Juubito, that was pretty much GG for Juubito at that point. So yes, as far as I'm concerned, FTG is pretty much GG. Don't really see anyone surviving BM Minato's FTG house-sized Rasengan blitz. :erm:

Not even juubito was safe. Once tobirama marked him every assult involving the edo kages involved ftg and even though they had no effect( no senjutsu ) he still couldn't dodge it.
 
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