elieser104
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Re: The Irrefutable Evidense that words can give!!!
"you are" does not mean that he knows who tobi is?
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"you are" does not mean that he knows who tobi is?
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Re: The Irrefutable Evidense that words can give!!!
Unless you yourself can translate Japanese to English, you can't just say one is right and the other is wrong. No matter what you think, you can't read Japanese so you don't know. Unless you can. Do you know Japanese?
I suggest you don't jump to conclusions because if you do, you might get dissapointed.
Unless you yourself can translate Japanese to English, you can't just say one is right and the other is wrong. No matter what you think, you can't read Japanese so you don't know. Unless you can. Do you know Japanese?
I suggest you don't jump to conclusions because if you do, you might get dissapointed.
Re: Disapproving Obito's Age Theory.
Well actually that is only implied. Kishi only said they know each other. You are questioning the time line of a manga/anime series where people can bring back the dead, summon giant demons, etc. How would Izuna live that long? How would elder son live that long? the evidence literally points to obito. Tobi knew kakashi on a personal level (he also knew Guy), so that eliminates Izuna and elder son immediately because Kakshi would have mentioned that he met Izuna or elder son. also, if tobi is elder son or izuna and took his mask off no one would know who it was. Stop saying 100% confirmed when you don't know shit. Tobito theorists have been antagonized since the beginning, and now that it is looking like we are right you guys are just to prideful to say you could be wrong. Also, why would izuna or elder son be interested in a little boys sharingan? why were they stalking the little boy? why stalk kakashi? also madara said Izuna died
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UnrealSoul
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Re: Disapproving Obito's Age Theory.
Lol i like your theory but heres one sentence that's going to mind fck you....
Madara know's Tobi.
Lol i like your theory but heres one sentence that's going to mind fck you....
Madara know's Tobi.
UnrealSoul
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Re: The Irrefutable Evidense that words can give!!!
Lmfao obito theory's are hilarious...Clearly Tobi is someone important that happened in his life.The title that kakashi had got when he met Tobi clearly impacts him(kakashi).Meaning Tobi can be someone Beast that kakashi met that day.
By the way Madara Know's Tobi...Now be mind fcked by the different time zone.
Lmfao obito theory's are hilarious...Clearly Tobi is someone important that happened in his life.The title that kakashi had got when he met Tobi clearly impacts him(kakashi).Meaning Tobi can be someone Beast that kakashi met that day.
By the way Madara Know's Tobi...Now be mind fcked by the different time zone.
FizzyDrink
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Re: Disapproving Obito's Age Theory.
Secondly there is no real proof that Tobi knows Kakashi, and there is especially nothing that proves that Tobi knows Gai.
And I personally don't think its the elder son, but as for Izuna, the possible reason that he could be still be alive is the simple fact that he said he had Hashirama's DNA. That could be used to revitalize and keep him alive longer. And Madara never said Izuna died, TOBI said Izuna died. In the same conversation where he said that the Kyuubi attacking the Leaf was a freak accident.
Also, you ask why Tobi would be interested in a little kids sharingan? If you hadn't noticed, he has quite the large collection of sharingan. Clearly he is trying to collect as many as possible. That includes Obito's.
And for goodness sake, there's a difference between keeping yourself alive for a long period of time (Izuna theorists) and going back in time to do things FARRR beyond his skill level (Obito theorists). The fact of the matter is that NOBODY can go back in time. Obito can't be born, and then go back in time to plan the Moons Eye Plan with Madara as Tobi. It's not possible. Which means that, backed by the manga, Obito is 100% NOT TOBI.
And you say Tobito theorists have been antagonized since the beginning??? There's a reason for that. THEY'RE DEAD WRONG, BUT WON'T ADMIT IT. And it gets on the nerves of the smart people, hence the antagonizing.
First of all, it wasn't implied that Tobi and Madara worked together. Quite clearly, Madara was working with Tobi, there are manga scans that pretty much prove it.
Secondly there is no real proof that Tobi knows Kakashi, and there is especially nothing that proves that Tobi knows Gai.
And I personally don't think its the elder son, but as for Izuna, the possible reason that he could be still be alive is the simple fact that he said he had Hashirama's DNA. That could be used to revitalize and keep him alive longer. And Madara never said Izuna died, TOBI said Izuna died. In the same conversation where he said that the Kyuubi attacking the Leaf was a freak accident.
Also, you ask why Tobi would be interested in a little kids sharingan? If you hadn't noticed, he has quite the large collection of sharingan. Clearly he is trying to collect as many as possible. That includes Obito's.
And for goodness sake, there's a difference between keeping yourself alive for a long period of time (Izuna theorists) and going back in time to do things FARRR beyond his skill level (Obito theorists). The fact of the matter is that NOBODY can go back in time. Obito can't be born, and then go back in time to plan the Moons Eye Plan with Madara as Tobi. It's not possible. Which means that, backed by the manga, Obito is 100% NOT TOBI.
And you say Tobito theorists have been antagonized since the beginning??? There's a reason for that. THEY'RE DEAD WRONG, BUT WON'T ADMIT IT. And it gets on the nerves of the smart people, hence the antagonizing.
Re: Disapproving Obito's Age Theory.
I will admit that the time hole is the biggest thing against tobito. Though he talks about Kakashi and making empty promises, promises on grave, etc. He also tells guy that he (guy) does not remember faces very well. He repeats the same things Minato and Kakshi told obito as a kid.Also the obvious omage to teh kakashi gaiden
FizzyDrink
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Re: Disapproving Obito's Age Theory.
And when he commented about Gai not remember faces very well, he was OBVIOUSLY making a joke about the fact that Gai could NEVER remember Kisame, even though they fought 3 times. He wasn't talking about himself.
And all of the other things are either coincidences or stretches of the imagination. Or Tobi just knows these things were said, and is using them, as I said before, to strike a mental blow on Kakashi. It doesn't prove beyond a doubt that Tobi is Obito. However, what does prove beyond a doubt that Tobi isn't Obito is the fact that Obito could never have been alive to plan the Moons Eye Plan with Madara. That's a definitive truth, and there is no denying that. So all the other things you mentioned just fall under the category of "coincidence" or "attempt at a mental blow". Sorry, it's the truth :shrug:
If Oro was involved, why did Madara later mention that nothing would matter once everyone was under Infinite Tsukiyomi? This obviously means that he helped plan the Moons Eye Plan. And the one who he planned it with HAS to be TOBI. So enough already. Stop trying to prove me wrong, I know what I'm talking about.
He talks about Kakashi making empty promises...that doesn't prove that he knows Kakashi personally. That just means he has seen Kakashi make those empty promises, which he does all the time. You do realize Tobi has access to Zetsu. Black Zetsu can see and record EVERYTHING. He could tell this to Tobi. Tobi could simply be using the information he gathered from Zetsu to strike emotional blows on Kakashi. He's just using the fact that he has Obito's eye to make the blow land even harder.
And when he commented about Gai not remember faces very well, he was OBVIOUSLY making a joke about the fact that Gai could NEVER remember Kisame, even though they fought 3 times. He wasn't talking about himself.
And all of the other things are either coincidences or stretches of the imagination. Or Tobi just knows these things were said, and is using them, as I said before, to strike a mental blow on Kakashi. It doesn't prove beyond a doubt that Tobi is Obito. However, what does prove beyond a doubt that Tobi isn't Obito is the fact that Obito could never have been alive to plan the Moons Eye Plan with Madara. That's a definitive truth, and there is no denying that. So all the other things you mentioned just fall under the category of "coincidence" or "attempt at a mental blow". Sorry, it's the truth :shrug:
Disapproving Another Obito Theory
This isn't an Obito = Tobi thread, this is me trying to find a way for him to even have a chance of being Tobi, a bit of a difference, if you think about it.
I know there's no stopping you people, so comment your flame and hate away. Because I really don't care anymore.
I've been doing a lot of these trying to find a way for Tobi to possibly be Obito. I was really convinced he wasn't, until I thought about it for a bit.
Now the evidence that almost convinced me Tobi wasn't Obito 100% [ There is always a chance, it's Kishi's manga afterall ] Is that Nagato was apparently given his Rinnegan by Tobi during the second shinobi world war. Obito apparently died during the third shinobi world war, so there wasn't really a chance that Obito could be Tobi, as Tobi gave Nagato the Rinnegan during the second world war.
But what if Tobi wasn't the one that gave Nagato the Rinnegan?
As we know, when Tobi said that he was the one who gave Nagato the Rinnegan, he was pretending to be Madara. To be Madara, he had to take on his legacy too. Maybe he was implying that it was Madara himself that gave Nagato his Rinnegan, not Tobi himself that delivered it?
Think about it, If Tobi was to copy Madara, his personality, his looks, he would have to take on his legacy itself. That's why he was saying he fought Hashirama, that he survived, and that he took his dna.
But he was lying of course, Madara had done all those things, not him. He lied about his entire identity, but everything he said was truth that Madara himself had.
Read this thread, this explains at least a bit about Obito's drastic increase in Age.
Just think about it, I still think it's possible that Tobi is Obito. It's possible, I don't believe he is, there's many people that he could be that would fit the plot just as good, but don't go throwing away Obito's chance just because its a mainstream thing to do on the base. It's all most of you people do anyway.
This isn't an Obito = Tobi thread, this is me trying to find a way for him to even have a chance of being Tobi, a bit of a difference, if you think about it.
I know there's no stopping you people, so comment your flame and hate away. Because I really don't care anymore.
I've been doing a lot of these trying to find a way for Tobi to possibly be Obito. I was really convinced he wasn't, until I thought about it for a bit.
Now the evidence that almost convinced me Tobi wasn't Obito 100% [ There is always a chance, it's Kishi's manga afterall ] Is that Nagato was apparently given his Rinnegan by Tobi during the second shinobi world war. Obito apparently died during the third shinobi world war, so there wasn't really a chance that Obito could be Tobi, as Tobi gave Nagato the Rinnegan during the second world war.
But what if Tobi wasn't the one that gave Nagato the Rinnegan?
As we know, when Tobi said that he was the one who gave Nagato the Rinnegan, he was pretending to be Madara. To be Madara, he had to take on his legacy too. Maybe he was implying that it was Madara himself that gave Nagato his Rinnegan, not Tobi himself that delivered it?
Think about it, If Tobi was to copy Madara, his personality, his looks, he would have to take on his legacy itself. That's why he was saying he fought Hashirama, that he survived, and that he took his dna.
But he was lying of course, Madara had done all those things, not him. He lied about his entire identity, but everything he said was truth that Madara himself had.
Read this thread, this explains at least a bit about Obito's drastic increase in Age.
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Just think about it, I still think it's possible that Tobi is Obito. It's possible, I don't believe he is, there's many people that he could be that would fit the plot just as good, but don't go throwing away Obito's chance just because its a mainstream thing to do on the base. It's all most of you people do anyway.
SageZeupheus
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Re: Disapproving Another Obito Theory
well there are some people that posted just that before...
well there are some people that posted just that before...
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FizzyDrink
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Re: Disapproving Another Obito Theory
Nah, you see, that is only 1 of many reasons.
The best one in fact is the fact that Tobi and Madara together planned the Moons Eye Plan. There are pages in the manga that prove this for sure.
Obito was not born in a time where he could have done that, nor was he ever old enough to be the one Madara planned the Moons Eye Plan with. There's honestly no way Madara worked with a preteen on a plan to control the world in a genjutsu when the kid couldn't even activate his sharingan.
Thus, Tobi cannot be Obito. This proves it pretty much 100%.
Edit: Also, please change the color of your text, it's pretty much unreadable on the white background.
Nah, you see, that is only 1 of many reasons.
The best one in fact is the fact that Tobi and Madara together planned the Moons Eye Plan. There are pages in the manga that prove this for sure.
Obito was not born in a time where he could have done that, nor was he ever old enough to be the one Madara planned the Moons Eye Plan with. There's honestly no way Madara worked with a preteen on a plan to control the world in a genjutsu when the kid couldn't even activate his sharingan.
Thus, Tobi cannot be Obito. This proves it pretty much 100%.
Edit: Also, please change the color of your text, it's pretty much unreadable on the white background.
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Re: Disapproving Another Obito Theory
Unfortunately, he's wrong about Tobi possibly being Obito. It's not possible.
phantomlord22
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Re: Disapproving Another Obito Theory
you have an eye for things
yeah it's true
but not a proof tobi being obito
you have an eye for things
yeah it's true
but not a proof tobi being obito
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