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Re: Disapproving Another Obito Theory

I don't think you guys understand this thread at all.

What he's saying is that Obito is a possibility, but he just lied about everything to make his second persona as madara possible.

I agree, I won't be surprised if he's Obito to be honest, I never really understood why people hate the idea so much.

Tobi is a liar, and Obito would add extra depth to the plot.
 

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Re: Disapproving Another Obito Theory

You're right on some stuff but the thing is, like FizzyDrink said, Tobi and Madara know eachother. Here's the thing. Madara died shortly after awakening the Rinnegan. Since we can assume Madara gave Nagato the Rinnegan when he was an infant, this would mean he died sometime around there. Nagato is 35-45 years old. Obito would be 30 years old if he were alive. This means Madara died before Obito was even concieved. So how would he even know Madara? This is what every Obito theorist fail to look at. And again, as FizzyDrink said, evidence points towards Madara and Tobi conceiving this plan together, as you know, homies.
 

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Re: Disapproving Another Obito Theory

Oh yeah, sorry for the double post, but Tobi was the one to influence Yahiko, help Itachi kill the clan, took control of the 9 tailed fox and was the one who controlled Yagura. If you don't believe this, then you're ignoring the fact that Madara was dead during all these events. When Obito theorist say Madara was the one behind all these events, simply ignore them.
 

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Re: Disapproving Another Obito Theory

I don't think you guys understand this thread at all.

What he's saying is that Obito is a possibility, but he just lied about everything to make his second persona as madara possible.

I agree, I won't be surprised if he's Obito to be honest, I never really understood why people hate the idea so much.

Tobi is a liar, and Obito would add extra depth to the plot.
I at least understand the premise of the thread. The problem is, it's still wrong. Tobi being Obito is not possible. Regardless SPF what Tobi is lying about or not, it's just technically impossible.
 

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Re: Disapproving Obito's Age Theory.

if u start repeating the name Tobi from the "o", obitobitobitobitOBITO :D:D:D its him cuz otherwise it kind of boring nd its dramatic nd fkin cool, besides tobi aka obito :DD is not a villain, hes pursuing true peace in his own twisted way.. well see..
 

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Re: Disapproving Obito's Age Theory.

to the op ' the only thing i could think. which has probably already been said in this post.
of course this has been said numerous times.
but the only way your gonna disapprove the age theory is. that the masked man fighting minato wasnt the tobi now. i like your enthusiasim on this theory kinda like a science project in a way haha. minato most likely did fight madara . he said it him self that the only one that the masked man could be was madara. i think its safe to say he did fight madara. or maybe as some others in this thread talked of a zetsu clone thang. incase you think that the "tobi" that fought minato was madara. then really i have no clue how the present tobi could be obito cause not enough information. just speculation that it may be obito cause the information given in the latest manga saying that tobi got the eye from the kannabi bridge. i apologize for my grammar skills. also im still new to the base. so please refrain from bashing me to much if i sound like a idiot for my contribution to this conversation.
 

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Why Tobi can't be Obito

Tobi will never be Obito... Why? Here is my theory:

1. Tobi is too old to be Obito, he is the same age as Kakashi during the Kyuubi attack and was dead already during that time. Indications in his eyes and body show that he is old similar to danzo but much older, His knowledge of diff jutsus and infinite tsukuyomi require a lot of time to learn.

2. A lot of shinobi would have notice if he was otherwise. Note that he has disguised himself as Uchiha Madara and a lot of Shinobi's believed him notably-
-Kisame Hoshigaki, whom he also showed his face.
- Uchiha Itachi believed him to be Madara even contemplating on the threat he poses. Itachi is a genius and is not to be fooled easily, he would have easily notice if tobi was somebody else other than being madara.
-Minato would have recognized Obito in their fight.
-Nagato and Konan

3. How could Obito have gained the knowledge nor the power to control the Kyuubi, master the mangekyou, control Yagura the mizukage at such a short span of time. when we all saw that Obito was a weak shinobi in the Kakashi Gaiden. In his character profi

4. Obito has no motive.

5. Obito was crushed by a huge boulder.. who survives that?

My conclusion:

> Tobi as he had stated in Naruto 597, took the eyes of Obito. Tobi has always been on the lookout for Sharingan eyes, hell he has amassed a huge collection of them in his hideout.

> He prefers powerful Sharingan eyes as indicated for his want to collect Uchiha Shisui's eye which was possessed by Danzo at that time. Collecting Obito's eyes must have been a treasure find as shown in his constant use of its powers and the fact that he has never sacrificed them when he performs Izanagi ( a jutsu he has used twice - 1st when sasuke used amaterasu on him and 2nd during his fight with Konan)

> Tobi has to be a real Uchiha, to be able to use all those eyes constantly and at such power. His knowledge of Uchiha secrets and Madara.

> My guess- He is Uchiha Izuna, he has intimate knowledge of Madara. His similarities with madara makes it a foolproof way for him to disguise as his brother without others like kisame and itachi ever noticing the difference.
 

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Re: Why Tobi can't be Obito

Tobi cant be Obito...
Obito gave kakashi his left eye
and tobi used Izanagi against konan... so he wouldnt have any eyes left...
so tobi is NOT obito
 
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