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Re: Disapproving Obito's Age Theory.
Well Tobi also said that he was Madara, and that was obviously a lie. He could be lying about giving Nagato the Rinnengan too. A year ago I could say Tobi is Madara 100% backed by the Manga, but I would be wrong to do so. Also, don't use absolute statements until Kishi reveals who Tobi is.
Well Tobi also said that he was Madara, and that was obviously a lie. He could be lying about giving Nagato the Rinnengan too. A year ago I could say Tobi is Madara 100% backed by the Manga, but I would be wrong to do so. Also, don't use absolute statements until Kishi reveals who Tobi is.
DeathReaperSeal
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Re: Disapproving Obito's Age Theory.
if you can post theories why do you bash out other people for declining your theory
if you can post theories why do you bash out other people for declining your theory
Re: Disapproving Obito's Age Theory.
I know his not Obito, but I like to experiment and see where theories take me.
And it just adds more when I get insulted for posting this, children on this site ... -_-
This is me posting my theory on how he could be Obito, I clearly said in the OP I don't want half-assed explanations on why he couldn't.
I know his not Obito, but I like to experiment and see where theories take me.
And it just adds more when I get insulted for posting this, children on this site ... -_-
NarutoVsGoku
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And you call me a douch? Smh you should not be talking. Your an utter fail and so is this thread. If you can't handle criticism for ya theories or opinions then don't post. Simple. If you can't handle a debate then don't post.
You are wrong I proved it and you say you didn't read it that's p*ssy way of avoiding further embarrassment is it? B*tch
See this proves that ya theory is nonsense. Your trying to give reasons as how it could be possible for Obito to be Tobi and when someone disagrees with you or disproves it you call them stupid and claim they didn't read it properly.
And you call me a douch? Smh you should not be talking. Your an utter fail and so is this thread. If you can't handle criticism for ya theories or opinions then don't post. Simple. If you can't handle a debate then don't post.
You are wrong I proved it and you say you didn't read it that's p*ssy way of avoiding further embarrassment is it? B*tch
Re: Disapproving Obito's Age Theory.
Okay, Tobi has admitted to taking Obito's eye, unless there was some other Uchiha that died at the Kannabi Bridge.
Also, even if zetsu repaired Obito's body, there is absolutly no way Obito could have become strong enough and fast enough to easily kill all the anbu protecting kushina and get through the barrier to then take on Minato, probably the fastest Ninja to have existed.
Okay, Tobi has admitted to taking Obito's eye, unless there was some other Uchiha that died at the Kannabi Bridge.
Also, even if zetsu repaired Obito's body, there is absolutly no way Obito could have become strong enough and fast enough to easily kill all the anbu protecting kushina and get through the barrier to then take on Minato, probably the fastest Ninja to have existed.
Re: Disapproving Obito's Age Theory.
I see one problem... this doesn't disprove the timezone questionnark
All this says is that zetsu could have healed obito which is not exactly proven yet there is still the fact that Tobi was shown to be alive before obito was born I would much rather see theories on people besides obito but these are pretty.
entertaining I guess
Also yo the people who say its not obito because Tobi said he stole the eye. Tobi didn't say he stole obitos eyes. Kkashi asked where not HOW Tobi got his eye. Tobi said the bridge. If it were obito he would not be lying because that's where obito first activated his sharingan eye. U get me? Obito would have gotten his eye the same place Tobi did, but I'm 95% sure he's not obito. But considering the both got their eyes the same place they could be the same person. If kakashi asked how, and Tobi said I took them from your dead friend than it would be a guarantee Tobi isn't obito.
This thread, is in no way me saying Obito is defiantly Tobi, i'm just looking at possibilities right now on which characters could be Tobi, and providing theories on how its possible.
Everyone is saying that the timezone doesn't fit in with Obito's age for him to be Tobi, since we seen wrinkles on his face.
If you take a look at the short fight between Tobi and Torune, Tobi tore of his arm when he was poisoned, and it sort of came off with a gooey substance, very similar to Zetsu's body.
This leads to the fact that Tobi defiantly repairs himself with Zetsu, because he wouldn't have some random - Forbidden Style: Tear off Gooey Arm jutsu.
What i'm leading to, is that when Obito was crushed by the rock, his body was somehow found and repaired by Zetsu. I'm pretty sure Zetsu has this power because he can copy perfect bodies and chakra, So why wouldn't he be able to repair someones body?
Repairing bodies might not be as efficient as copying them with Zetsu, and a gooey substance is likely to wrinkle and fade as time passes, which explains the appearance of Obito being old and wrinkly.
Once again, there are countless facts that can disapprove this and facts that approve other characters, it won't matter in a couple of weeks anyway, Tobi will be revealed soon!
I see one problem... this doesn't disprove the timezone questionnark
All this says is that zetsu could have healed obito which is not exactly proven yet there is still the fact that Tobi was shown to be alive before obito was born I would much rather see theories on people besides obito but these are pretty.
entertaining I guess
Also yo the people who say its not obito because Tobi said he stole the eye. Tobi didn't say he stole obitos eyes. Kkashi asked where not HOW Tobi got his eye. Tobi said the bridge. If it were obito he would not be lying because that's where obito first activated his sharingan eye. U get me? Obito would have gotten his eye the same place Tobi did, but I'm 95% sure he's not obito. But considering the both got their eyes the same place they could be the same person. If kakashi asked how, and Tobi said I took them from your dead friend than it would be a guarantee Tobi isn't obito.
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Re: Disapproving Obito's Age Theory.
This is exactly what I've been trying to tell NB for the longest time now, I myself believe it is more plausible for him to be obito than anyone else but even so I have my doubts.
But the evidence for him being obito is undeniably stronger then any other evidence for him being anyone else.....although I will admitt I may be somewhat biased just because I not only believe he could be obito but I actually want him to be obito, don't ask me why, I just do for some reason.
This thread, is in no way me saying Obito is defiantly Tobi, i'm just looking at possibilities right now on which characters could be Tobi, and providing theories on how its possible.
Everyone is saying that the timezone doesn't fit in with Obito's age for him to be Tobi, since we seen wrinkles on his face.
If you take a look at the short fight between Tobi and Torune, Tobi tore of his arm when he was poisoned, and it sort of came off with a gooey substance, very similar to Zetsu's body.
This leads to the fact that Tobi defiantly repairs himself with Zetsu, because he wouldn't have some random - Forbidden Style: Tear off Gooey Arm jutsu.
What i'm leading to, is that when Obito was crushed by the rock, his body was somehow found and repaired by Zetsu. I'm pretty sure Zetsu has this power because he can copy perfect bodies and chakra, So why wouldn't he be able to repair someones body?
Repairing bodies might not be as efficient as copying them with Zetsu, and a gooey substance is likely to wrinkle and fade as time passes, which explains the appearance of Obito being old and wrinkly.
Once again, there are countless facts that can disapprove this and facts that approve other characters, it won't matter in a couple of weeks anyway, Tobi will be revealed soon!
This is exactly what I've been trying to tell NB for the longest time now, I myself believe it is more plausible for him to be obito than anyone else but even so I have my doubts.
But the evidence for him being obito is undeniably stronger then any other evidence for him being anyone else.....although I will admitt I may be somewhat biased just because I not only believe he could be obito but I actually want him to be obito, don't ask me why, I just do for some reason.
FizzyDrink
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Re: Disapproving Obito's Age Theory.
How about this?
We KNOW that Madara and Tobi planned the moons eye plan together. Otherwise Madara wouldn't have known what was going on when he revived. Thus, Tobi was alive and old enough to plan the Moons Eye Plan with Madara.
Tell me how Obito could have ever been alive to plan the Moons eye plan with Madara?
100% backed by the manga, Tobi is NOT Obito.
Looks like I'm going to have to use more information then, ok, this won't be hard.
How about this?
We KNOW that Madara and Tobi planned the moons eye plan together. Otherwise Madara wouldn't have known what was going on when he revived. Thus, Tobi was alive and old enough to plan the Moons Eye Plan with Madara.
Tell me how Obito could have ever been alive to plan the Moons eye plan with Madara?
100% backed by the manga, Tobi is NOT Obito.
Re: Disapproving Obito's Age Theory.
We don't KNOW madara and Tobi planned it together that's just a big assumption because madara knew what was going on. It is possible but that doesn't explain how he knew nagato. I believe orochimaru is the missing link to it all
leezagboola
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Re: Disapproving Obito's Age Theory.
Huge flaw in your theory,
If the fact that he repaired himself with zetsu gave him wrinkles, then why doesnt zetsu have wrinkles all over himself since he is made from those spores?
Also, when tobi fought the 4th hokage, he was much older not only in wrinkles but also his body shape. He looks like a full grown man.
Also if he claims to have given nagato the rinnegan, the he would have to be much older, maybe around jiraiyas age or a bit younger.
But if it was obito, why would he be angry at kakashi and the whole world? as i recall he asked rin to take out his eye and willingly gave it to kakashi. he died with a smile not a grimace in hatred. He wanted to continually watch over the village.
Furthermore! If suddenly came across his body like zetsu with the ability to suddenly heal him to perfect condition, why would they? he was the bottom of his group, only just unlocked his sharigan, and back then there was still the entire uchiha clan left so there was no excitement in oh this is the last surviving one or anything. Zetsu is meant to be someone evil working in akatsuki, why would he just think yep im going to restore this kid to perfect condition randomly and then leave him alone and completely forget about it, considering he didnt say anything when tobi joined akatsuki,
I do however believe that yes he has obitos eye, thats why their space time ninjutsu are connected. But he isnt obito, i still think he will be someone we never met before. a nobody, like he said in an earlier chapter.
Huge flaw in your theory,
If the fact that he repaired himself with zetsu gave him wrinkles, then why doesnt zetsu have wrinkles all over himself since he is made from those spores?
Also, when tobi fought the 4th hokage, he was much older not only in wrinkles but also his body shape. He looks like a full grown man.
Also if he claims to have given nagato the rinnegan, the he would have to be much older, maybe around jiraiyas age or a bit younger.
But if it was obito, why would he be angry at kakashi and the whole world? as i recall he asked rin to take out his eye and willingly gave it to kakashi. he died with a smile not a grimace in hatred. He wanted to continually watch over the village.
Furthermore! If suddenly came across his body like zetsu with the ability to suddenly heal him to perfect condition, why would they? he was the bottom of his group, only just unlocked his sharigan, and back then there was still the entire uchiha clan left so there was no excitement in oh this is the last surviving one or anything. Zetsu is meant to be someone evil working in akatsuki, why would he just think yep im going to restore this kid to perfect condition randomly and then leave him alone and completely forget about it, considering he didnt say anything when tobi joined akatsuki,
I do however believe that yes he has obitos eye, thats why their space time ninjutsu are connected. But he isnt obito, i still think he will be someone we never met before. a nobody, like he said in an earlier chapter.
FizzyDrink
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Re: Disapproving Obito's Age Theory.
Thus, the chain of events goes as such:
1. Madara unlocks the Rinnegan and dies shortly after.
2. Tobi takes Madara's Rinnegan and implants it into Nagato.
3. Madara would have known this, because that was the plan from the start.
Basically what this proves is that Tobi knew and worked with Madara. And what that also proves is that Obito CANNOT be Tobi, because he wasn't born in a time when he could have done that.
Edit: If you want more proof...
I think this makes it kind of obvious that Madara and Tobi worked together. Now are you convinced that I am right? Tobi is 100% not Obito.
It does actually, if you put it together. Madara and Tobi planned the Moons Eye Plan together. Tobi said he implanted the Rinnegan into Nagato. Madara is the only character who's Rinnegan Tobi could have implanted.
Thus, the chain of events goes as such:
1. Madara unlocks the Rinnegan and dies shortly after.
2. Tobi takes Madara's Rinnegan and implants it into Nagato.
3. Madara would have known this, because that was the plan from the start.
Basically what this proves is that Tobi knew and worked with Madara. And what that also proves is that Obito CANNOT be Tobi, because he wasn't born in a time when he could have done that.
Edit: If you want more proof...
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I think this makes it kind of obvious that Madara and Tobi worked together. Now are you convinced that I am right? Tobi is 100% not Obito.
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elieser104
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The Irrefutable Evidense that words can give!!!
Ok, I know that there are multiple threads about this but, I have some evidense that has not been posted!!!
First of all, as you all may know, Manga chapters are always released in various versions. I mean, in NarutoBase, chapter 597, page 12 :
Look at the las picture!!! Kakashi says "you..."
In this page, It almost means nothing.
However, on the webpage:
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Kakashi says "you are..."
this definitely implies that Kakashi knows that Tobi IS Obito, even though I would like him to be Izuna Uchiha...
now, the next page, Tobi interrupts kakashi by telling him that he (kakashi) is only words. This could mean the promise of taking care of Rin.
Think whatever you want.
Just give me your opinio guys!
Ok, I know that there are multiple threads about this but, I have some evidense that has not been posted!!!
First of all, as you all may know, Manga chapters are always released in various versions. I mean, in NarutoBase, chapter 597, page 12 :
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Look at the las picture!!! Kakashi says "you..."
In this page, It almost means nothing.
However, on the webpage:
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this same page has another meaning:
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Kakashi says "you are..."
this definitely implies that Kakashi knows that Tobi IS Obito, even though I would like him to be Izuna Uchiha...
now, the next page, Tobi interrupts kakashi by telling him that he (kakashi) is only words. This could mean the promise of taking care of Rin.
Think whatever you want.
Just give me your opinio guys!
Saiyan Prince Vegeta
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Re: The Irrefutable Evidense that words can give!!!
That doesn't necessarily mean that he meant he is Obito. Kakashi could have implied anyone, but in all good evidence.
That doesn't necessarily mean that he meant he is Obito. Kakashi could have implied anyone, but in all good evidence.
Jeimuzu Abumi
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Re: The Irrefutable Evidense that words can give!!!
I like it man, and its pretty obvious now..
Also when he talked about "Heros dont have to make pitiful promises infront of graves"
Another obvious statement that its obito.. The only thing now is will kakashi beat him or Naruto
I like it man, and its pretty obvious now..
Also when he talked about "Heros dont have to make pitiful promises infront of graves"
Another obvious statement that its obito.. The only thing now is will kakashi beat him or Naruto
elieser104
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Re: The Irrefutable Evidense that words can give!!!
Maybe, but I still think that it is Obito
Wparker6804
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Re: The Irrefutable Evidense that words can give!!!
I don't see why he would bring in some unknown character. No drama or plot in that.
As much as I hate to say it.... I think that is the most possible outcome.
I still doubt it.
I don't see why he would bring in some unknown character. No drama or plot in that.
As much as I hate to say it.... I think that is the most possible outcome.
I still doubt it.
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