So lol. RSM Ashura > MS Indra ?

[Styles]

So where does the whole Ashura greater than Indra come from. If Indra tied with Ashura even though Ashura had cooperation, wouldn't that imply that Indra was stronger?

Only from people that think Ashura killed Indra. Ashura won the contest for leadership of nishuu BZ stated that. Then he tempted Indra and Indra fought Ashura and they both killed each other.

 

[Nagi]

So where does the whole Ashura greater than Indra come from. If Indra tied with Ashura even though Ashura had cooperation, wouldn't that imply that Indra was stronger?

lol Now we're on the same boat. If Indra truly lost and that cooperation was truly the key, then why the Uchiha and senji clan kept fighting each other throughout history?

 

[shelke]

That is the same BM avatar Naruto have with extra heads of Kage Bunshins like Naruto's. It probably looks a bit different as Kurama was too young then. Ashura also didn't inherit the Sage's Chakra, Indra did. Which would explain how the sage had to hand over the Ninshuu legacy to him to make the odds even.

Indra was obviously and canonically stronger being the actual heir of Bijuu chakra and the God Tree's Sharingan eye.

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

By that logic, then it is possible for other ninjas with no tailed beast to enter chakra mode!

No other ninja is the sages son except indra

 

[kaithefly]

indra had a spiral patterned mangekyo sharingan but because he was the first person to have the sharingan, it's safe to assume that it didn't cause him to go blind. it's possible that his mangekyo was like the eternal mangekyo

 

[Nagi]

I noticed that only Indra transmigrants were able to awaken the EMS. (All others who tried to acquire eternal light apparently failed).
Makes me wonder whether Indra was born with a Mangekyou Sharingan that had eternal light. Either that or his Rikudou chakra prevented him from losing his eyesight.

I also don't recall a mere MS being capable of using PS except for Obito's which happened to be powered by Rikudou chakra. So Indra didn't have an ordinary MS. It's more like his Ocular Powers degraded with each passing generation.





Ashura seems to have a degraded version of RSM if he's only using his own chakra to manifest his Asura Avatar (if that's what Hagoromo meant when he said that Ashura's own chakra bloomed and became powerful)

Both Indra and Ashura destroyed each other after Ashura won the war to become successor of Ninshu and was challenged by Indra.

You need two MS to awaken PS. Honestly, PS is not a MS's ability. It the chakra that is hidden in the brain. The only way to access to it is by having two MS. Once that is done, it up to you to master it.

 

[Styles]

lol, I was just thinking that.



Well Ashura won the leadership, but it have been hinted that they fought repeatedly until their bodies was destroyed.

You know what's weird? Ashura is using something that may be a mini TBB or TSB's.

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

That avatar look just like Kurama and wasn't Kurama the ring leader of the all of the bijuus? It wouldn't be a far-fetch that they was working together. Plus Kurama knew how to gather shit load of NE for Naruto. This dude got some battle experiences.

Kurama only knew how because of naruto otherwise he would've been did it. Kurama was made after they fought.

 

[00Rinne]

Is it ever stated who lost, i don't remember. Because if Hogoromo gave Ashura everything i would assume that means it was some kind of power up like Naruto's to where he got Rikudo Mode.

The avatar looks like Kurama but the facial features are off so im kinda stuck on my opinion on Asura and Indra because there is really not enough to go off of.

 

[Nagi]

No other ninja is the sages son except indra

unless, we're calling chakra mode a advance sage mode, I don't see how a person can enter that mode without a bijuu. So therefore, ashura had Kurama inside of him during his fight against Indra.

 

[Nagi]

Kurama only knew how because of naruto otherwise he would've been did it. Kurama was made after they fought.

Kurama was made before they fought. They fought after the old man kick the bucket.

 

[TRE MERCER]

There a tie. Though is always been hinted that the body is strong G.E Naruto and Hashirama.​

 

[Nagi]

You know what's weird? Ashura is using something that may be a mini TBB or TSB's.

Even further proof! lol

 

[Desanto]

That is the same BM avatar Naruto have with extra heads of Kage Bunshins like Naruto's. It probably looks a bit different as Kurama was too young then. Ashura also didn't inherit the Sage's Chakra, Indra did. Which would explain how the sage had to hand over the Ninshuu legacy to him to make the odds even.

Indra was obviously and canonically stronger being the actual heir of Bijuu chakra and the God Tree's Sharingan eye.

Typical, coming from an Uchiha Wanker.
Ashura with no talent tied with Indra... They are equal despite the difference in the way they gained power. Stop fapping.

 

[Madara the Solo King]

Then again in this manga Kishi had established that Ashura > Indra and the descendants would follow in that same hierarchy. Yes Ashura was trolling with Indra making him think he was the most powerful.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Indra's MS doesn't suffer the same side effects as his transmigrants. Indra had the purest of chakra inherited from Hagoromo i.e. Six Paths Yin chakra which Hagoromo gave Sasuke. That negated the blindness effect and granted him Perfect Susanoo on MS level.

 

[Styles]

Even further proof! lol

If it is a TSB then that kinda show that the sage did in fact give him his powers or at least some.

 

[Nagi]

Indra's MS doesn't suffer the same side effects as his transmigrants. Indra had the purest of chakra inherited from Hagoromo i.e. Six Paths Yin chakra which Hagoromo gave Sasuke. That negated the blindness effect and granted him Perfect Susanoo on MS level.

So Kishi nerfed the Uchiha clan while the senji clan didn't get any type of side effects?

 

[Nagi]

If it is a TSB then that kinda show that the sage did in fact give him his powers or at least some.

Indeed! If that is the case and Indra manage to fought him repeatedly until their bodies went bye bye, you gotta give him credits!

 

[Desanto]

Then again in this manga Kishi had established that Ashura > Indra and the descendants would follow in that same hierarchy. Yes Ashura was trolling with Indra making him think he was the most powerful.

Some people just don't get that hard work and dedication > talent. Uchiha fappers always desperately trying to prove their fav is stronger because deep down they know Ashura's migrants just worked harder for it.