Senjus are not useless without mokuton so Uchihas are not useless without their eyes

[LoZelda101]

Wrong, Senju were known and feared long before hashirama and tobirama were born. You have no proof that he used forbidden jutsu to beat izuna, you just keep making assumptions.

Senju>uchiha this is a fact written by the writer himself.

Pfft please. without that S/T sword, he would've NEVER had killed izuna, therefore never would had stopped madara therefore never would had created kohona. senjus are crap, hashirama is superior to his clan because of sagemode, wood release and unique dna, while tobirama just so happens to be a jutsu creating genius.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

they got the hype jutsu

And the Obito swag. :sdo2:

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Fine.

Why are we talking about the Senju? This is about the Uchiha relying on the Sharingan and if they useless without it.

I gave you the databook scan, but it was dismissed as outdated, so I have choosen to give in and agree that they are not useless.

[Red] Comments like that. SMH Now your speculating.

This is the second time I'm repeating myself. They've been known to compete with the Senjus as history serves and not everyone awakened the sharingan. So they were strong enough to compete with the likes of the most powerful clan. Senju.

The red comment: I don't speculate, you just don't read the manga

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[Urda]

Pfft please. without that S/T sword, he would've NEVER had killed izuna, therefore never would had stopped madara therefore never would had created kohona. senjus are crap, hashirama is superior to his clan because of sagemode, wood release and unique dna, while tobirama just so happens to be a jutsu creating genius.

Uchiha lover over here.

Yet, in the Manga the said they were powerful.

This is the second time I'm repeating myself. They've been known to compete with the Senjus as history serves and not everyone awakened the sharingan.

The red comment: I don't speculate, you just don't read the manga

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Not afraid to admit I was wrong. :/

Why you keep bringing the Senju up? This is about the Uchiha. :|

 

[~Ethereal~]

I still prefer the Uchihas.

 

[Gerkak]

Pfft please. without that S/T sword, he would've NEVER had killed izuna, therefore never would had stopped madara therefore never would had created kohona. senjus are crap, hashirama is superior to his clan because of sagemode, wood release and unique dna, while tobirama just so happens to be a jutsu creating genius.

Nobody cares what he used, that's like saying muhammed Ali wouldn't have won matches without fists. Your wankery has no meaning here.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Uchiha lover over here.

Yet, in the Manga the said they were powerful.



Not afraid to admit I was wrong. :/

Why you keep bringing the Senju up? This is about the Uchiha. :|

Because Senjus are the strongest people that the Uchihas ever fought.
Itachi/Obito barely fought without their sharingan leaving Sasuke and Madara. Sasuke beat chuunins without his sharingan but nothing really higher.
Everyone agrees that Senjus are typically stronger than the average shinobi so senjus was a perfect way to gauge an uchihas capability.

 

[Urda]

Because Senjus are the strongest people that the Uchihas ever fought.
Itachi/Obito barely fought without their sharingan leaving Sasuke and Madara. Sasuke beat chuunins without his sharingan but nothing really higher.
Everyone agrees that Senjus are typically stronger than the average shinobi so senjus was a perfect way to gauge an uchihas capability.

I'm sorry, but honestly, this thread is pointless.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

I'm sorry, but honestly, this thread is pointless.

Then tell it to all the people that made a thread about Uchiha's being useless without their eyes.
I told you already that if you didn't think they were useless without then you shouldn't be arguing.

 

[LoZelda101]

Uchiha lover over here.

Yet, in the Manga the said they were powerful.

funny, in a previous thread i was called uchiha hater. also, no. that could've easily been applied to just hashirama with senjus slapped on by default. afterall legends, myths, stories, history, 3rd person perspective, they've always been faulty screwy at best in the manga.

Nobody cares what he used, that's like saying muhammed Ali wouldn't have won matches without fists. Your wankery has no meaning here.

1. LOL you're retarded. 2. ali can use his own fist because that's apart of his body. so that's not even remotely the samething as using an overpowered specialized tool that any tard could've used to get the same results = izuna dead. so again, what's the difference? oh right, madara and izuna dominated solely because of their bloodline and tobirama got a free kill because of some hax jutsu he found/made whatever, thus ended the never ending stalemate.

 

[dms_kakashi]

Lol.... Senju have no relation with mokuton. Its just some bloodline limit. But sharingan is all Uchihas property.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

Yet all the senju save Tsuande died

 

[unknownvillain1254]

Senju Clan is the best because they're good all around and only Hashirama had Wood Style
Uchihas are ****ing garbage without Sharingan

That's the reason they lost and you hit the nail on the head

 

[Gerkak]

1. LOL you're retarded. 2. ali can use his own fist because that's apart of his body. so that's not even remotely the samething as using an overpowered specialized tool that any tard could've used to get the same results = izuna dead. so again, what's the difference? oh right, madara and izuna dominated solely because of their bloodline and tobirama got a free kill because of some hax jutsu he found/made whatever, thus ended the never ending stalemate.

The only retard here is you, you obviously are unable to grasp the point of the analogy. FTG is tobirama's own skill not power from someone/somewhere else. You can try to justify your silly beliefs anyhow you want any rational person knows your just an idiot with poor trolling skills. Why don't you make an uchiha wank thread next time.

 

[Dantee]

Yeah they were known for it, but they're not useless without it. That's my main point to this thread.

ofc they aren't useless without it. The clan was genius. Sasuke manhandled two chunins who made a name out of themselves straight out of the academy. Anyone who says uchiha are garbo without sharingan are just trolls tbh.

 

[Dantee]

Mokuton didn't tip the scale in favor of the senju.. lol.

Hashirama and his wood obviously did. It's written in the manga.

 

[lolokane]

Even without the sharingan, the Uchihas naturally have very powerful chakras which put them above the average shinobi.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Even without the sharingan, the Uchihas naturally have very powerful chakras which put them above the average shinobi.

Exactly, Kakahi noted that about Sasuke in part 1.
They also have some A rank techniques that don't require the sharingan but their strong chakras alone.

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

<div class="bbWrapper">A senju without wood style is a lot more useful than an Uchiha without eyes because only one Senju was seen to have it while sharingan was almost common yet Senju were seen to be superior and still had people like Tobirama to make edo tensei, shadow clones &amp; ftg.</div>

 

[KingHashirama]

Hashirama and his wood obviously did. It's written in the manga.

Feel free to show where its written. =]