Sasuke's Revolution plan was solid. The newest storylines are further proving it.

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:lmao: rebelling leads to uniting, the very thing that happened against madara that lead to the peace that naruto certainly couldn't solve on his own.
That is not the point, genius.

Sasuke is gonna kill those people.

People might be united against Sasuke, but wars aren't going to stop. They'll just become far more one-sided.
 

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We all know Naruto was always your garden variety gibbon and a cheesy like zealot. Nobody should be surprised. The little ******* stood by Will of Fire; an ideology that is a stuff of nightmares and is steeped in the most abhorrent kind of political corruption and facism. Really, who is susprised? Tell me one promise he and his harlot Hyuga kept?

Damn you actually believe Sasuke's plan was any good :lol

The only good part about it was sasuke's definition of Hokage rest falls into category of utter BS
Whilst it was not conveyed that properly, it was a solid plan: keeping people in line through absolute power.
 

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We all know Naruto was always your garden variety gibbon and a cheesy like zealot. Nobody should be surprised. The little ******* stood by Will of Fire; an ideology that is a stuff of nightmares and is steeped in the most abhorrent kind of political corruption and facism. Really, who is susprised? Tell me one promise he and his harlot Hyuga kept?

Whilst it was not conveyed that properly, it was a solid plan: keeping people in line through absolute power.
sasuke's plan was utter shit...especially when ruling thru absolute power contradicts his actions throughout the war
 

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nope it was 1.5vs10.5 :bdpf:
Then by that logic it's 10.5 vs 10.5 since naruto had other bijuus inside him.
That is not the point, genius.

Sasuke is gonna kill those people.

People might be united against Sasuke, but wars aren't going to stop. They'll just become far more one-sided.
:lmao: it takes people to die and fear for them to unite, that is a fact. there is no "might" unite against sasuke, they will unite against sasuke. there is no "wars" if the 5 leaders (the same five leaders that screwed nagato) when most certainly their motive is directed at sasuke which is backed by the underlining fact that the gokages put aside their personal bias to fight a cause that not only inevitably strengthen their unity but overtime became friends all because they feared one name, madara uchiha. You and the rest crying about tragedy need to grow a pair, this is not utopia, this barely even qualify as democracy era, it's a world that is built and solved by bloodshed, protect the many at the cost of the few and from that POV it is perfectly logical for sasuke to come to this solution than keep shit the same.

Sasuke is not naive as much as you want him to be, he will find ways than just bloodshed to force them to rely on other opposing forces either by disrupting military advancement, food, wild life etc until vast majority unite. plus, there is no confirmation that sasuke would keep attacking, he's an overseer. that means he could leave for years maybe even decades (immortality) then return to remind them to act right again. tell me, what if the current or the next 5kages suddenly decided to break their unity or just secretly started doing shady BS again, what is naruto's solution? I'll tell you, he has none.
 
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Dude, Sasuke's plan was the stupidest shit.

I mean, Naruto's wasn't that great either but...."I will make everyone's lives hell so everybody can hate their leader, AKA me. That will certainly bring peace! No one will try to rebel at all with the dictator who is constantly working on making their lives worse! And if they do, shucks, I'll just kill them all! Yeah, that is sure to bring peace to the nations!"
Do you read ?

He was going to have people hate and fear him not in the way of their lives are hell but the sense that they can't wage war or cause chaos without him showing up and ruining their plans.

As madara and obito did sauske was going to unite the world against him.

So if you think sauske working in the shadows killing people who want to start conflict is evil well you should go see a psychiatrist
 

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This thread is hilarious, my friend.

You're clearly showing bias here even though Naruto's apparently your second favorite character (how do you talk about your least favorite characters I wonder lol)

It's great that Sasuke remembered Black Zetsu's words and was investigating, but clearly you forgot Kishimoto made it so it's something that Sasuke's only capable of doing since he has the Rinnegan.



Furthermore, his loss is the reason he has the luxury of traveling dimensions in the first place. If he's running things from the shadows, how would he even find time to investigate what Kaguya was afraid of?

And if you're saying that Sasuke > MoMomoshiki and Kinshiki, clearly you weren't reading the manga/movie. If he didn't have allies (which he wouldn't have if he became ruthless dictator), he'd never defeat them on his own.

And Sasuke admitted that Naruto's better than him when it comes to protecting the village.



So given all that, you're right with saying that Sasuke was making all the right decisions by saying that Naruto was basically everyone's best hope for survival :)
Sasuke was planning on executing his Revolution plan and investigating Kaguya. So obviously he would have done both. Don't ignore logic, knowing he didn't have an ally such as Naruto to help him, then logically he would have trained even more to become stronger so he could handle them. And stop changing the meaining of his words. In this side of events, it took Naruto + Sasuke to defeat them. So yes, if one of them go down then everyone is doomed. He never said explicitly stated Naruto was better at protecting the village than he is.

His plan was stupid and was just a forced attempt to justify the rushed Naruto and Sasuke battle at the end. Now if the story allowed him to actually have a good plan for a revolution and maybe at the end of the war he get's a whole group of followers that want to change the whole village and kage system. Then he could start a real revolution whose side would oppose Naruto's side that wanted to preserve the old system only now they would have more cooperation. This could have started a true war and battle of ideologies and maybe at the end they could have compromised and truly changed the world for the better but instead Kishi gave up on the story and rushed the ending after he dragged on the war way too long.
Bad assumptions. Sasuke's plan and their battle had been built up well before he revealed his plan. What you did was state how you would prefer things. Sasuke didn't want a traditional Revolution, just as he didn't want to be a traditional Hokage. He wanted to handle everything alone, not work with others.

Despite the manga showing this logic to be flawed, people still believe it.....
One of the main themes of this story is Teamwork. Ofcourse Sasuke wasn't going to be allowed to execute his plan of him handling everything alone. That doesn't mean that it couldn't have succeeded especially when he's already been proven right in some regards. All you guys can do now is much lousy statements like, "Sasuke isn't omnipresent!" he can't be everywhere at once!" Neither could Madara, still caused the Shinobi to unite for the first time, and they ended up staying united afterwards through the bonds they formed because they had a common enemy.

Sasuke wouldn't need to be everywhere because their wouldn't be trouble everywhere.

That is not the point, genius.

Sasuke is gonna kill those people.

People might be united against Sasuke, but wars aren't going to stop. They'll just become far more one-sided.
What wars? To defeat Sasuke? To fight a guy who they won't even be able to find unless he allows them too?

if Sasuke's Revolution success= momo kill him :lmao:
The guy whom Sasuke would have knowledge of & be preparing for years before he even arrived? How do you know he would even come to Earth without the Bijuu? If he did then why would he stay knowing they aren't there?

nope it was 1.5vs10.5 :bdpf:
No one assisted Sasuke against Naruto.

sasuke's plan was utter shit...especially when ruling thru absolute power contradicts his actions throughout the war
And what was Naruto's plan? "Let's just hope everyone continues to get along after the war because they decided to team for the first time in history for a couple days only because they had a common enemy that they couldn't defeat alone" ? What if they seperated and began to oppose each other as they always had beforehand? What was Naruto's plan to handle this?

Then by that logic it's 10.5 vs 10.5 since naruto had other bijuus inside him.


:lmao: it takes people to die and fear for them to unite, that is a fact. there is no "might" unite against sasuke, they will unite against sasuke. there is no "wars" if the 5 leaders (the same five leaders that screwed nagato) when most certainly their motive is directed at sasuke which is backed by the underlining fact that the gokages put aside their personal bias to fight a cause that not only inevitably strengthen their unity but overtime became friends all because they feared one name, madara uchiha. You and the rest crying about tragedy need to grow a pair, this is not utopia, this barely even qualify as democracy era, it's a world that is built and solved by bloodshed, protect the many at the cost of the few and from that POV it is perfectly logical for sasuke to come to this solution than keep shit the same.

Sasuke is not naive as much as you want him to be, he will find ways than just bloodshed to force them to rely on other opposing forces either by disrupting military advancement, food, wild life etc until vast majority unite. plus, there is no confirmation that sasuke would keep attacking, he's an overseer. that means he could leave for years maybe even decades (immortality) then return to remind them to act right again. tell me, what if the current or the next 5kages suddenly decided to break their unity or just secretly started doing shady BS again, what is naruto's solution? I'll tell you, he has none.
LOL I'm reading & replying to these comments inorder. Nice to see that someone is smart enough to make the same deductions as me. "Sasuke's plan was shit!" Yeah, and what was Naruto's plan to maintain peace if they had seperated and went back to their old ways after the war? Nothing. He never presented a solution.


did u forgot sasuke himself said that naruto only had 1 attack worth of chakra
and naruto never used other biju chakra against sasuke
Selective reading. Notice how he said that after Naruto had used multiple Bijuudama's, Clones, & Avatars. You speak as if Sasuke said that before they started fighting. Also, the mode Naruto was in requires their chakra.

Sasuke's plan was stupid and Naruto put an end to that stupidity.
Stop autmomatically supporting Naruto on everything and read what Intelligent people have to say on the matter. Hence me & Amentejikara's responses.
 
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Hey guys, it's been awhile. Sometimes i gotta take a break because i get tired of being right all the time.

I've been known that Sasuke’s Revolution plan was solid, but the recent developments of the storyline further proved it.

His Revolution plan was a method he came up with based on the history of the Shinobi world, to better ensure that peace would be maintained. Ofcourse he would want to eliminate the Bijuu, who Shinobi always sought after, seeing them as nothing more than massive sources of power which they could use to better enforce their authority over others. A whole war with the entire world at stake was just fought over them.
Forget Shinobi, these creatures are attracting beings from Other Dimensions. Years later Momo and Kinshiki nearly destroyed the world to acquire their power, and guess who saved everyone?



The mysteries of Kaguya were never solved. If it wasn’t for Sasuke keeping what Black Zetsu and The Sage said about Kaguya in mind (that she came from someplace far away to acquire the chakra fruit, and wanted to build an army) and investigating, unlike Naruto – whom also wanted to let the Bijuu roam free, then Momo and Kinshiki would have blindsided and killed everyone. Naruto was kidnapped, but no worries, Sasuke already developed a technique so he could travel across dimensions. Thus, together with the Kages, who he had a meeting with years earlier telling them wassup, were able to save Naruto, and defeat the enemies.

Furthermore, as you know, the Boruto manga began with a flash forward of Konoha (which was under Naruto’s watch) being destroyed and Boruto facing an enemy – Kawaki, who states to Boruto that he would send him to where Naruto is, then it started retelling the movie. Sasuke’s Revolution plan ensured criminals like Kawaki, and rouge ninja like the Akatsuki would be kept in check. Knowing there’s a guy with Godlike power who can annihilate them in an instant would keep them from attempting to cause mass destruction. And if they were dumb enough to try so anyway then they’re finished. He would eliminate them. If anyone wants to create chaos, they would have to take him out first, which would be unattainable.

How would they even attempt to do so? For one, he’s in the shadows, not an obvious location known to all (Konoha, Hokage’s office). There wouldn’t be an opportunity to potentially launch a suprise attack to take him out, unlike Naruto (even little Himawari was able to one-shot him). No one knows his location.

Currently Sasuke is probably travelling across dimensions in search of the original Ōtsutsuki clan’s homeworld (hence why Konoha was able to be destroyed, aside from Naruto’s failure to protect it) to investigate these potential threats to earth. He likely put the pieces together. Kaguya left her homeworld to acquire the chakra fruit for power because of conflicts in her homeworld. Even after attaining it she still felt that it wasn’t enough and wanted to create an army to aid her against threats (Momo, Kin, and possibly others).

Sasuke is on the rise, the guy just keeps making the right decisions, Naruto is on a decline, his thinking is being proven to lead to failure without Sasuke being around.

Sasuke>Naruto.
What in the shit...

You're a romantic in every sense of the word...
 
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Dude, Sasuke's plan was the stupidest shit.

I mean, Naruto's wasn't that great either but...."I will make everyone's lives hell so everybody can hate their leader, AKA me. That will certainly bring peace! No one will try to rebel at all with the dictator who is constantly working on making their lives worse! And if they do, shucks, I'll just kill them all! Yeah, that is sure to bring peace to the nations!"
No, the central idea behind it is that Sasuke had noticed that the villages had exhibited solidarity and cooperation by banding together against a common foe. Therefore, Sasuke operated under the guise of said common foe, so the villages would cooperate with one another and unite as they did against Madara and Obito Uchiha. There's actually nothing outlandish about it because this was explicitly shown in the manga. Villages will not voice solidarity unless said villain opposes their way of life as well.

Sasuke's was smart, but the sole reason why Naruto contested it was because the same thing could've been accomplished without sacrificing things of intrinsic value including Sasuke's happiness and the Bijuu for instance.
 
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Nice ad-hominem.




Reread the comment. This time slowly.
Smart move as I don't fan over Naruto anymore unless I'm trolling.

Do you honestly believe that Sasuke plan is as solid as you say it is? Because it's full of holes and contingencies...

I've re-read your post and I can't help but see your explanation as nothing more than what I said before.

Good or bad, a good plan is a good plan. But Sasuke plan isn't good.
 
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Smart move as I don't fan over Naruto anymore unless I'm trolling.

Do you honestly believe that Sasuke plan is as solid as you say it is? Because it's full of holes and contingencies...

I've re-read your post and I can't help but see your explanation as nothing more than what I said before.
Explain your claims. It's logical for him to want to get rid of the Bijuu & believe that the Five Great Shinobi Nations who united for the first time in history, for a few days, only because they had a common enemy that they couldn't defeat alone, would eventually seperate after the war and begin to fight each other as they have.

It's been proven that a common enemy would unite them. Sasuke would become the common enemy, and keep everyone in check. Notice how the current era is so peaceful and developed. Why? Because the Shinobi villages aren't fight each other anymore. They united.

The World's problems lied with them. Sasuke had a successful method to keep them united and would deal with criminals like the Akatsuki. And like i said. He could always adjust and improve his methods as time went on.
 
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Explain your claims. It's logical for him to want to get rid of the Bijuu & believe that the Five Great Shinobi Nations who united for the first time in history, only because they had a common enemy that they couldn't defeat alone, would eventually seperate after the war and begin to fight each other as they have.

It's been proven that a common enemy would unite them. Sasuke would become the common enemy, and keep everyone in check. Notice how the current era is so peaceful and developed. Why? Because the Shinobi villages aren't fight each other anymore. They united.

The World's problems lied with them. Sasuke had a successful method to keep them united and would deal with criminals like the Akatsuki. And like i said. He could always adjust and improve his methods as time went on.
I understand Sasuke and his reasoning. I understand what his motives are and how he believes the world would work. I'm not saying it isn't possible. But with his plan. It wouldn't work. There's too many holes and contingencies. I know it sounds like I'm being vague or repeating myself but that's only because I want you to understand the faults your self rather than approach this as a argument or debate as I'm not up for it.

I will discuss it with you if you do come to the same conclusions. If you don't then I have nothing to say to you other than state my opinion and move on. If you didn't think of the holes while typing the original post then I doubt you'd even reach that point.
 
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