Sasuke's Revolution plan was solid. The newest storylines are further proving it.

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Your insecurity revealed itself by you going off topic and referring to a physical battle. Now i can easily list how Sasuke would have killed Naruto had he not been restricted from utilizing his abilities and skills to his full advantage, but that could derail the thing. So i'll refrain (atleast for now).
you can't be insecure when you put no effort into things...lololololololololol

for the rest of your comment...hmmm you COULD easily do that...but then you'd be contradicting your own response by going the **** off topic you moron
 

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The Akatsuki proved that an enemy whose powerful enough could unite the divided nations, and wanting to eliminate the Bijuu was clearly a wise decision.

How was Sasuke's plan bad like Nagato's? Sasuke wasn't going to use the Bijuus' power (nor his own) to blow up nations. Nor was he planning to leave such power in the hands of others.
Well, I'd say Nagato's plan better than Sasuke's actually. Its bad too, but while Sasuke's plan would never work and would be shitty for everyone if it did, Nagato's plan would still be quite shitty for everyone, but would most likely work, as it did in the real world for the longest time. Force nations to a standstill due to the fear of damaging themselves if they do partake in conflict due to a powerful Kinjutsu. It sounds like an odd analogy to nuclear warfare even.
 

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>Killing for symbolism and sending a message (the kages).
>Killing sentient beings because others want to abuse them (bijuu).
>Instill fear across world.
>Make evil af face while revealing plans to everyone.
>Profit from the solid plan????

Sasuke's plan is only liked because he's Sasuke. If he was an old turd like Danzo, it'd be rejected like most authoritarian plans.
 

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>Killing for symbolism and sending a message (the kages).
>Killing sentient beings because others want to abuse them (bijuu).
>Instill fear across world.
>Make evil af face while revealing plans to everyone.
>Profit from the solid plan????

Sasuke's plan is only liked because he's Sasuke. If he was an old turd like Danzo, it'd be rejected like most authoritarian plans.
The plan would still be solid if Danzo came up with it, but Danzo is Danzo, he doesn't have it in him to be the villain everyone hates in order to bring peace. He wants to be involved and ingrained within the conflict
 

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How long has it been since the manga ended? I guess some Sasuke fans still wished he would have won the so called battle of ideology. Sasuke revolution plan was Sh!t which is why he lost. Why don't u take his comments into consideration.
 

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you can't be insecure when you put no effort into things...lololololololololol
You put in enough effort to form/post a comment to support Naruto.

for the rest of your comment...hmmm you COULD easily do that...but then you'd be contradicting your own response by going the **** off topic you moron
I know your tactics. I knew from the start that if i keep responding to you, that instead of replying on topic, what you're going to do is go on and on attempting to twist things up against me (as you did now trying to troll) to derail the thread, so i made a short response to end things quickly.

Now that that is accomplished (me getting my points across about your behavior, bye.

Well, I'd say Nagato's plan better than Sasuke's actually. Its bad too, but while Sasuke's plan would never work and would be shitty for everyone if it did, Nagato's plan would still be quite shitty for everyone, but would most likely work, as it did in the real world for the longest time. Force nations to a standstill due to the fear of damaging themselves if they do partake in conflict due to a powerful Kinjutsu. It sounds like an odd analogy to nuclear warfare even.
This can be applied to Sasuke to an even greater extent. Sasuke would create the standstill himself and control things from the shadows. Masses of people wouldn't need to die for him to create peace. Nor would he have rely on anyone to further his plan (because he wouldn't die like Nagato).

How long has it been since the manga ended? I guess some Sasuke fans still wished he would have won the so called battle of ideology. Sasuke revolution plan was Sh!t which is why he lost. Why don't u take his comments into consideration.

I don't wish that he won. I like the way things are now. Due to Naruto he's on a more positive route to ensure peace is maintained. He's still protecting the world from within the shadows, except rather than handling everything alone via Revolution plan, he's working with his allies. Both ways have been proven to lead to success.
 
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The plan would still be solid if Danzo came up with it, but Danzo is Danzo, he doesn't have it in him to be the villain everyone hates in order to bring peace. He wants to be involved and ingrained within the conflict
It's a crappy plan. People would most likely not back it if Danzo claimed it.

Sasuke is not omniscient or omnipotent to keep checks in place around the world. There will be strong ninja everywhere who will rise up, be it heroes and villains. Even more so since they believe death is greater than being ruled by a villain. And even if they don't come near the power to overthrow him. They will still have the ability to unleash their rage on the establishment from time to time, because like I said, he is not omniscient. And you're not looking at the whole picture, is being ruled by someone who makes himself be the villain really better than trying to live together in peace, just because there is more risk to the peace involved?

Naruto X Hunter's argument was Naruto's plan fails without Sasuke and Sasuke > than him. But Naruto's plan has Sasuke involved as well. So it stand to reason that Sasuke would fail without Naruto as well. It does not make for a good story in shonen or even seinen, unless we see the failure of his plans at the end of some new hero. It also does not work in reality as history shows that revolutions that are not supported by the people are futile or result in shitt lifestyles of the people. If we want Kishi to follow through with Sasuke's plan then it falls through like this: Sasuke who's powers are god-like finally reach God and rules over the world. Not only is this an incompatible ending to a story like Naruto, it is completely unrealistic. If Kishi says, Sasuke the God rules with an iron fist, or Naruto the messiah attains peace forever, neither can be analyzed as solid plans as both are unrealistic and Kishi would be adding things to fit those goals.
 

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This can be applied to Sasuke to an even greater extent. Sasuke would create the standstill himself and control things from the shadows. Masses of people wouldn't need to die for him to create peace. Nor would he have rely on anyone to further his plan (because he wouldn't die like Nagato).
No it can't. Sasuke plans on becoming a dictator and making everybody hate him so there is no conflict among themselves. What do you think he plans on doing if people rebel on him? And they WILL rebel on him, since that's what happens when you're a douche of a leader, which Sasuke has openly stated he will be. On purpose. Well, like Sasuke himself also said, he himself will be the judge and executioner of this new world.

So yeah, masses of people WILL die.

The funniest part for me is that even Naruto realises the bullshit behind this plan and Sasuke just casually deflects the question when he is asked if he thinks people will accept this.

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No it can't. Sasuke plans on becoming a dictator and making everybody hate him so there is no conflict among themselves. What do you think he plans on doing if people rebel on him? And they WILL rebel on him, since that's what happens when you're a douche of a leader, which Sasuke has openly stated he will be. On purpose. Well, like Sasuke himself also said, he himself will be the judge and executioner of this new world.

So yeah, masses of people WILL die.

The funniest part for me is that even Naruto realises the bullshit behind this plan and Sasuke just casually deflects the question when he is asked if he thinks people will accept this.

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Itachi exposed the flaw in Sasuke's plan through lecturing Naruto. Danzo was living proof of this as was Madara.

Even Kishi's art style in the revelation of Sasuke's revolution was meant to show this guy was batshit crazy.

Even Sasuke knew he was walking the path to darkness. He would have just grown to be some senile dictator with people causing chaos everywhere to overthrow him. Sure he can beat them but he can't prevent their actions with fear alone. You push soldiers to a corner, and they will throw their lives away to fight back.
 

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Hey guys, it's been awhile. Sometimes i gotta take a break because i get tired of being right all the time.

I've been known that Sasuke’s Revolution plan was solid, but the recent developments of the storyline further proved it.

His Revolution plan was a method he came up with based on the history of the Shinobi world, to better ensure that peace would be maintained. Ofcourse he would want to eliminate the Bijuu, who Shinobi always sought after, seeing them as nothing more than massive sources of power which they could use to better enforce their authority over others. A whole war with the entire world at stake was just fought over them.
Forget Shinobi, these creatures are attracting beings from Other Dimensions. Years later Momo and Kinshiki nearly destroyed the world to acquire their power, and guess who saved everyone?



The mysteries of Kaguya were never solved. If it wasn’t for Sasuke keeping what Black Zetsu and The Sage said about Kaguya in mind (that she came from someplace far away to acquire the chakra fruit, and wanted to build an army) and investigating, unlike Naruto – whom also wanted to let the Bijuu roam free, then Momo and Kinshiki would have blindsided and killed everyone. Naruto was kidnapped, but no worries, Sasuke already developed a technique so he could travel across dimensions. Thus, together with the Kages, who he had a meeting with years earlier telling them wassup, were able to save Naruto, and defeat the enemies.

Furthermore, as you know, the Boruto manga began with a flash forward of Konoha (which was under Naruto’s watch) being destroyed and Boruto facing an enemy – Kawaki, who states to Boruto that he would send him to where Naruto is, then it started retelling the movie. Sasuke’s Revolution plan ensured criminals like Kawaki, and rouge ninja like the Akatsuki would be kept in check. Knowing there’s a guy with Godlike power who can annihilate them in an instant would keep them from attempting to cause mass destruction. And if they were dumb enough to try so anyway then they’re finished. He would eliminate them. If anyone wants to create chaos, they would have to take him out first, which would be unattainable.

How would they even attempt to do so? For one, he’s in the shadows, not an obvious location known to all (Konoha, Hokage’s office). There wouldn’t be an opportunity to potentially launch a suprise attack to take him out, unlike Naruto (even little Himawari was able to one-shot him). No one knows his location.

Currently Sasuke is probably travelling across dimensions in search of the original Ōtsutsuki clan’s homeworld (hence why Konoha was able to be destroyed, aside from Naruto’s failure to protect it) to investigate these potential threats to earth. He likely put the pieces together. Kaguya left her homeworld to acquire the chakra fruit for power because of conflicts in her homeworld. Even after attaining it she still felt that it wasn’t enough and wanted to create an army to aid her against threats (Momo, Kin, and possibly others).

Sasuke is on the rise, the guy just keeps making the right decisions, Naruto is on a decline, his thinking is being proven to lead to failure without Sasuke being around.

Sasuke>Naruto.
This thread is hilarious, my friend.

You're clearly showing bias here even though Naruto's apparently your second favorite character (how do you talk about your least favorite characters I wonder lol)

It's great that Sasuke remembered Black Zetsu's words and was investigating, but clearly you forgot Kishimoto made it so it's something that Sasuke's only capable of doing since he has the Rinnegan.



Furthermore, his loss is the reason he has the luxury of traveling dimensions in the first place. If he's running things from the shadows, how would he even find time to investigate what Kaguya was afraid of?

And if you're saying that Sasuke > MoMomoshiki and Kinshiki, clearly you weren't reading the manga/movie. If he didn't have allies (which he wouldn't have if he became ruthless dictator), he'd never defeat them on his own.

And Sasuke admitted that Naruto's better than him when it comes to protecting the village.



So given all that, you're right with saying that Sasuke was making all the right decisions by saying that Naruto was basically everyone's best hope for survival :)
 
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No it can't. Sasuke plans on becoming a dictator and making everybody hate him so there is no conflict among themselves. What do you think he plans on doing if people rebel on him? And they WILL rebel on him, since that's what happens when you're a douche of a leader, which Sasuke has openly stated he will be. On purpose. Well, like Sasuke himself also said, he himself will be the judge and executioner of this new world.

So yeah, masses of people WILL die.

The funniest part for me is that even Naruto realises the bullshit behind this plan and Sasuke just casually deflects the question when he is asked if he thinks people will accept this.

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:lmao: rebelling leads to uniting, the very thing that happened against madara that lead to the peace that naruto certainly couldn't solve on his own.
 
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His plan was stupid and was just a forced attempt to justify the rushed Naruto and Sasuke battle at the end. Now if the story allowed him to actually have a good plan for a revolution and maybe at the end of the war he get's a whole group of followers that want to change the whole village and kage system. Then he could start a real revolution whose side would oppose Naruto's side that wanted to preserve the old system only now they would have more cooperation. This could have started a true war and battle of ideologies and maybe at the end they could have compromised and truly changed the world for the better but instead Kishi gave up on the story and rushed the ending after he dragged on the war way too long.
 

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Sasuke haters always trying to downplay. Sasuke's plan was solid and what happened in the future after ch 700 further proves what he said in VOTE 2.

.Sasuke knew people will never stop seeking the Bijuu (Momoshiki)

.He knew that the only reason why the nations united was because they had a common enemy.

.He also knew that the shinobi system needed to be reformed, because it was corrupted

.The 5 Kage failed in their positions and are totally not innocent


The only part of the plan I didn't agree with was him trying to kill Naruto. And now, with the village destroyed once again, Sasuke has been proven right making Naruto, Ashura, and Hagoromo look like retards.

:sdo: :lmao:

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How about nah?

Sasuke's plan was utter crap and would've failed before it started.

Hell, you'd be looking at a dystopian future right there.

Toneri would've been successful in destroying the earth, had things gone Sasuke's way. :lol


Naruto>>>>>Sasuke.
 

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Sasuke haters always trying to downplay. Sasuke's plan was solid and what happened in the future after ch 700 further proves what he said in VOTE 2.

.Sasuke knew people will never stop seeking the Bijuu (Momoshiki)

.He knew that the only reason why the nations united was because they had a common enemy.

.He also knew that the shinobi system needed to be reformed, because it was corrupted

.The 5 Kage failed in their positions and are totally not innocent


The only part of the plan I didn't agree with was him trying to kill Naruto. And now, with the village destroyed once again, Sasuke has been proven right making Naruto, Ashura, and Hagoromo look like retards.

:sdo: :lmao:

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So because people won't stop seeking them you kill them? Just kill humanity for nonstop violence then.

The nations were still united after Madara left. Naruto helped with that.

Reformation is not a call for Revolution.

5 Kage were changing, there was no need to get rid of what has been fixed.

Naruto never claimed his plan was infallible. His failing is not proof of Sasuke being right.
 
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