Sasori & Deidara vs Itachi & Kisame

[Zexion~]

AkatsukiChurch made an exploit on how the Iron Sand can expand and grow as it's released, and we all know that it carries poison in it that apparently isn't gtting diluted in the new Iron Sand. Meaning he can somehow replicate the poison.

He can do that

No not really, the poison expands more with the IS, meaning its less concentrated however still just as deadly :|

@KingPin Dude-Samehada has a force around it he doesn't have to swing it...

Second, if he merges anything that comes near him is going to be absorbed...Sooo C4 is useless

 

[HNIC]

Samehada being a chakra eater could easily absorb the chakra strings temporarily making the puppets useless

Kisame AND itachi are Suiton users thus using water wall to block Sasori arsenal of projectiles as well as diluting poison would be perfect.

Deidara wouldn't stand much of a chance against Kisame AND Itachi considering they could each sit in Yata Mirror and tank all Deidara explosions. Also, deidara is strong against genjutsu but definitely not strong enough.

Finally in the event he does use massive explosions Kisame can create an ocean to soak up the impact of the blast

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Kisame and Itachi low difficulty

simple use of water release isnt diluting poison , it would need to be submerged into water for some time.

samahade counters close combat puppets, not long ranged puppets like the 3rd Kazakage.

Itachi wouldnt be standing side-by-side the entire time lol. Yata Mirror cant be shared and it only covers a portion of susnaoo.

 

[Mellanoma]

simple use of water release isnt diluting poison , it would need to be submerged into water for some time.

samahade counters close combat puppets, not long ranged puppets like the 3rd Kazakage.

Itachi wouldnt be standing side-by-side the entire time lol. Yata Mirror cant be shared and it only covers a portion of susnaoo.

Ummm multiple users were inside Itachi susanoo when they fought Pain.. Yata has 360 cover

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The thing is Samehdah does not have to fight the puppets themselves... Simply cut the strings between the Puppett and Sasori. Longer the distance the easier to cut the strings

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This would be enough water to dilute Whatever poison Sasori has.. Simply not enough of the poison to be lethal in a ocean full of water

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Kisame and Itachi low difficulty

 

[HNIC]

No not really, the poison expands more with the IS, meaning its less concentrated however still just as deadly :|

@KingPin Dude-Samehada has a force around it he doesn't have to swing it...

Second, if he merges anything that comes near him is going to be absorbed...Sooo C4 is useless

the "force around" samehade doesnt protect Itachi nor Kisame, unless it's placed in front of his face, but neither have knowledge of c4.

If Kismae was to merge, that MIGHT counter c4 from entering his bloodstream but also leave him open for others attacks without samahade being his shield. Ex. explosives not making direct contact, Sasori's poison covered needles.

 

[HNIC]

Ummm multiple users were inside Itachi susanoo when they fought Pain.. Yata has 360 cover

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The thing is Samehdah does not have to fight the puppets themselves... Simply cut the strings between the Puppett and Sasori. Longer the distance the easier to cut the strings

That image shows Yata mirror countering the straightforward, with the force of the attack bypassing susnaoo itself. Yata mirror did not expand over and under him lol we see susnaoo striking straight ahead.

strings can only be cut in close combat, no strings are present in Iron Sand lol

 

[Zexion~]

the "force around" samehade doesnt protect Itachi nor Kisame, unless it's placed in front of his face, but neither have knowledge of c4.

If Kismae was to merge, that MIGHT counter c4 from entering his bloodstream but also leave him open for others attacks without samahade being his shield. Ex. explosives not making direct contact, Sasori's poison covered needles.

...The force field would cover all holes in his body....

 

[HNIC]

...The force field would cover all holes in his body....

from c4, not poison or explosives. c3 dropped near his face out of reach...

 

[miromiro]

I didnt see Deidaea mentioned anywhere and all of team #2 lol. this isnt 1 vs 2, you're focusing too much on one team winning.

Sasori has no human part, unless you're referring to his heart. Iron spikes covered in poison bascially counters that, even at least restricts his movements.

I've already mentioned how Tsukuyomi can be countered

lol @ "Deidara avoids that" - as if it were up to him. You can't avoid Tsukuyomi. In Road to Ninja, Sakura and Naruto were put in Tsukuyomi without even making contact with Obito. He was able at that time to freely steal the Kyuubi. Deidara can't counter Tsukuyomi. And also, Sasori while he's still only a puppet and his heart is the only human thing, it still needs air. Heart can't work without air. Meaning that, if he's stuck in the Water Prison, there's no air = Sasori dead.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

His counter is Samehada has a field of absorption that absorbs anything that comes close....Which would be the chakra in the bombs...

No Sasori can't do that ._.

Not to mention his water dome should make minor explosions nullified.

 

[HNIC]

lol @ "Deidara avoids that" - as if it were up to him. You can't avoid Tsukuyomi. In Road to Ninja, Sakura and Naruto were put in Tsukuyomi without even making contact with Obito. He was able at that time to freely steal the Kyuubi. Deidara can't counter Tsukuyomi. And also, Sasori while he's still only a puppet and his heart is the only human thing, it still needs air. Heart can't work without air. Meaning that, if he's stuck in the Water Prison, there's no air = Sasori dead.

Road to Ninja in filler. And that wasnt long distance. Deidara distance above the Sand village is long distance.

I never hard of a pupper needing air, even with a heart lol. He has no lungs lol

 

[Zexion~]

from c4, not poison or explosives. c3 dropped near his face out of reach...

Well, c3 isn't usually discussed but

Kisame has a Doton that allows him to go underground, which could avoid it

 

[HNIC]

Well, c3 isn't usually discussed but

Kisame has a Doton that allows him to go underground, which could avoid it

really? why not? lol

Lol going underground countering the scale of c3....? c3 would have whipped an entire village. He may not be killed, but he'll be missing limbs lol

 

[Mellanoma]

That image shows Yata mirror countering the straightforward, with the force of the attack bypassing susnaoo itself. Yata mirror did not expand over and under him lol we see susnaoo striking straight ahead.

strings can only be cut in close combat, no strings are present in Iron Sand lol

The top image represented people being inside susanoo.... duh..

Secondly Iron sand has no strings but it requires chakra AND Sasori controls the puppet that controls iron sand.

Obviously you are not here to debate your here to WANK

 

[Zexion~]

really? why not? lol

Lol going underground countering the scale of c3....? c3 would have whipped an entire village. He may not be killed, but he'll be missing limbs lol

Because it requires prep...

And it couldn't get through sand :|

 

[HNIC]

Because it requires prep...

And it couldn't get through sand :|

prep? all of Deidara's jutsu require the same prep.

the sand was credited as being the ultimate defense in the series...so i miss your point? lol

 

[Tartarus]

I debated this match-up a LONG time ago, I'm still giving it to the artists

Sasori ​

Sasori is the senior of two and relies on mostly poison based attacks with his puppets. He's the perfect partner when facing genjutsu like Itachi user since he has no nervous system to cast genjutsu on, and he fairs well against Kisame since he uses poison to kill instead of destructive chakra based attacks. Another benefit of Sasori's power that lets him also match Kisame's stamina is that Sasori can't tire out due to being in a puppet body and has 3 forms to get past. Like Deidara, he can also attack multiple opponents

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Deidara​

Likewise, Deidara is another ninja with strange powers to counter in this fight. Deidara too has trained himself to counter genjutsu after his first fight with Itachi

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. This isn't the only thing that makes him well suited to fight Itachi and Kisame. Deidara's clay birds are also excellent for staying out of effective range from most of Itachi and Kisame's attacks. This is good since Deidara can support Sasori from above. The exploding clay is also a very effective against someone like Kisame. The clay is devastating not due to an energy based chakra attack, but the explosion itself is what is so dangerous. Another benefit Deidara has against this duo is that he can turn Kisame's greatest asset of turning the arena into a lake against them by turning it into a giant minefield

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Both of the artists have multiple attacks that allow them to destroy huge areas, thus taking out all clones, such as Iron Sand Unleash, C3, and C4. A C4 and Iron Sand unleash combo could potentially win the match there. ISU does two things: covers a wide area and limits mobility [

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] for the other team. If Itachi and Kisame can't move quickly, they won't be able to escape the cloud of C4 bombs [

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If it comes to Itachi using Susanoo, then he'll sacrifice a good amount of his mobility and then he'll have whole other set of problems to face. Who said the C1 fish were only for Kisame? Susanoo is still vulnerable from below and Itachi gonna have to have to constantly watch himself from below and if his feet are injured, he won't be able to stand and water anymore and will be drowned by the weight of his own Susanoo, or from broken legs. Another weakness he gains to add is poison gas, which he won't be able to avoid as easily. Also, chances are he won't be able to use Susanoo for very long since he'll be pouring out chakra for that as well as gather chakra in his feat to stay above water.
Not to mention C3 would work just as well since the giant explosion would completely disperse the water with a giant explosion and would definitely kill Itachi since the mountain busting explosion would go off beneath him and Susanoo wouldn't protect him.

 

[Zexion~]

prep? all of Deidara's jutsu require the same prep.

the sand was credited as being the ultimate defense in the series...so i miss your point? lol

Not that sand, it was mere sand he gathered from the village, with his chakra in it :|

 

[HNIC]

I debated this match-up a LONG time ago, I'm still giving it to the artists

Sasori ​

Sasori is the senior of two and relies on mostly poison based attacks with his puppets. He's the perfect partner when facing genjutsu like Itachi user since he has no nervous system to cast genjutsu on, and he fairs well against Kisame since he uses poison to kill instead of destructive chakra based attacks. Another benefit of Sasori's power that lets him also match Kisame's stamina is that Sasori can't tire out due to being in a puppet body and has 3 forms to get past. Like Deidara, he can also attack multiple opponents

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Deidara​

Likewise, Deidara is another ninja with strange powers to counter in this fight. Deidara too has trained himself to counter genjutsu after his first fight with Itachi

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. This isn't the only thing that makes him well suited to fight Itachi and Kisame. Deidara's clay birds are also excellent for staying out of effective range from most of Itachi and Kisame's attacks. This is good since Deidara can support Sasori from above. The exploding clay is also a very effective against someone like Kisame. The clay is devastating not due to an energy based chakra attack, but the explosion itself is what is so dangerous. Another benefit Deidara has against this duo is that he can turn Kisame's greatest asset of turning the arena into a lake against them by turning it into a giant minefield

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Both of the artists have multiple attacks that allow them to destroy huge areas, thus taking out all clones, such as Iron Sand Unleash, C3, and C4. A C4 and Iron Sand unleash combo could potentially win the match there. ISU does two things: covers a wide area and limits mobility [

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] for the other team. If Itachi and Kisame can't move quickly, they won't be able to escape the cloud of C4 bombs [

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].

If it comes to Itachi using Susanoo, then he'll sacrifice a good amount of his mobility and then he'll have whole other set of problems to face. Who said the C1 fish were only for Kisame? Susanoo is still vulnerable from below and Itachi gonna have to have to constantly watch himself from below and if his feet are injured, he won't be able to stand and water anymore and will be drowned by the weight of his own Susanoo, or from broken legs. Another weakness he gains to add is poison gas, which he won't be able to avoid as easily. Also, chances are he won't be able to use Susanoo for very long since he'll be pouring out chakra for that as well as gather chakra in his feat to stay above water.
Not to mention C3 would work just as well since the giant explosion would completely disperse the water with a giant explosion and would definitely kill Itachi since the mountain busting explosion would go off beneath him and Susanoo wouldn't protect him.

well REP+ to your sir

Not that sand, it was mere sand he gathered from the village, with his chakra in it :|

the sand was too chakra enhanced, which explains his exhausion and the hole in his dome. The defense was full of his chakra lol

 

[Zexion~]

well REP+ to your sir



the sand was too chakra enhanced, which explains his exhausion and the hole in his dome. The defense was full of his chakra lol

The hole in his dome proves my point,

He uses it for the dome because its the sand from the gourd meaning that it has better defensive properties because of some reason i don't feel like getting into atm.

Now clearly that sand from the hole did not take up all the sand that blocked C3 so regardless its clearly weaker then his gourd sand

 

[HNIC]

The hole in his dome proves my point,

He uses it for the dome because its the sand from the gourd meaning that it has better defensive properties because of some reason i don't feel like getting into atm.

Now clearly that sand from the hole did not take up all the sand that blocked C3 so regardless its clearly weaker then his gourd sand

No, Garra controls the amount of chakra distributed into sand the in his guard. He obviously concentrated nearly all of his chakra into that defense, hence he wouldn't have been exhausted.