[Suggestion] RP Suggestion #....dear god I don't even know

[Zanji]

Alright I know this thread will more than likely fall onto deaf ears or some "suggestion" or lame excuse of wannabe "answer" will be given and the thread will be closed, and nothing being done about it. But ya know what **** it everything is worth at least one shot in the long run regardless if its a hit & miss.

Now here is my suggestion that would/should help the rp revive from the Rapid descent into hell that its going, and fast. As I am aware of it all the mods have certain area's that they are governing and not allowed to do go beyond that regardless of how "backed up" someone's section is getting, simply not allowed. Now to be honest that is a load of bull shit in a fricken semi-truck. Now I have heard all the excuses in the world on why that shouldn't be changed, those being its easier to manage, why should someone do something they don't want to do, yadda yadda yadda bullshit bullshit bullshit that's all I hear, thats all I read when I hear about these stupid ass rules.

Now back in the day (yeah I know some of yall get tired of me talkin' about the golden age of the rp but tough shit. Back then the RP actually had a promising future instead of the damned future it has now which isn't nearly as pretty.) Every "RP" Mod, did everything they helped out everywhere they could even if they didn't fully know just what the hell to do. But ever since Zen left and "others" were brought in and have taken over, they have admittedly gotten lazier than a middle-aged sloth, about their duties mostly because they are bored, or "tired" of hearing the members ***** them out (yes Kumo member and Ame members your the focal point of that remark), or they feel like there is just too damned much to deal with at times.

Well Too DAMNED bad you WILLINGLY signed up to be a mod of that section now, suck up your damned balls and be just as willing to do more, Yes some of you are doing exceptional in your given sections, while others are falling behind for either feeling overwhelmed or just don't give a damn anymore, or even a combination of the two. Now where I work, my bosses commend you for going outside of your job description and willing to do more, so I don't see why Cali would be upset if some of y'all took the inspiration to try and do a bit more, maybe ask the governing mod of that section if they would like to have some help with some of the stuff that needs to be done, instead of sitting in your little hiding hole of the RP and not stepping out of that comfort zone.

So my suggestion to the mods & Cali to save this RP:

Be willing to do more, and offer to do more, regardless if your comfortable with it or not, and lay off attacking or "controlling" the members when you feel they going off track, just ease off of them a bit, let their imaginations run WILD in the customs, don't try and diminish it.

My suggestion to the MEMBERS of the RP to save it:

Ease up off attacking the mods every chance you get, one thing you all must remember is that they were members just like the rest of you at some point and just as subjected to the rules of the RP as you are now. They are not trying to be the bad guys so many of you like to label them of being.

But now as a combination to the two parties.....this suggestion could easily be considered a "drastic" change to the RP as a hole but could easily make it VASTLY better in the long run......

Get rid of the post count system for ranking, that is one of the factors in the killing of the RP people are too quick at jumping from one thing to another rank wise when infact they should actually have to work in the RP for certain ranks, now if need be I can come up with an outline or suggestion for how to rank up if you all would like.

Now another thing would be the techniques one can learn or better yet put the number (more precisely a maximum of 3) of basic elements one can have outside of either their CC ability, KG, KT, HA, etc. Only allow a maximum of 2 custom elements per bio, instead of 4. Also types of bio's Generalists who can delve a little into each category never mastering (Forbidden Ranked techniques never accessible to them, not weak to any other class) Fighters (who can master offensive, defensive, and supplementary techniques of the ninja world, incapable of using Genjutsu, or Medic Skills (A-Rank and above Sealing techniques), Strong fighters against the Medics, Weak fighters to the Illusionists), Medics (who are capable of healing during the middle of fights, Masters of the sealing arts, and chakra control, Strong fighters against Illusionists, Weak to the Fighers), and Illusionist (Masters of Genjutsu's, trickery not exceptionally strong fighters (cannot learn S-Forbidden ranked techniques, Strong against Fighters, Weak to Medics). All of which NOT including their KG abilities. Just like how in the RP how Long Range fighters are weak to Close range combatants, Close Range combatants are weak to Mid range combatants, and Mid Range combatants are weak to Long Range combatants.

Now I know that is quite a drastic change into the RP as a hole, and would force alot of the members to drop some of their custom techniques, unless one bio has one set of elements and the other has another, or if only 1 bio is allowed then they would have to drop some of their custom techniques just to make things more interesting, more exciting and could quite possibly revive this RP.


Now as I said I know there is a high chance that most of this will fall onto deaf ears, because they don't want the change but I am hoping they at least heed my suggestions to the two specific parties of the RP.

Thank You and have a pleasant day

 

[Crutch Kaguya]

Once you suggest taking things away from people, the mods will instantly invalidate all your points. This is a fact.

Instead of just implementing changes, I think NB RP should have a section where changes can be tested by certain people so that existing stuff doesn't have to be removed, and if the changes don't work out, oh well, it didn't do any harm. But of course then there is the issue of what suggestions should be tested out , etc...

 

[Douryoku]

I wish I could RP. I wanna be a cool kid like you guys.​

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[Cursed Prince]

I like my 5 elements, so i say no to your suggesting. **** the rps future

 

[Delta]

I like the idea of picking roles, I've always been open to dropping elements, my fighting style does no include water and earth, I only touch them or the "elemental advantage counter". So I'm all for the dropping elements and restricting us more in the regard of we choose what we have not have everything

EDIT: And Cp, why would you want to keep all five elements when you can barely use one

 

[Lord of Kaos]

Firstly, if you want to talk about mod assignments, making a thread regarding it changes little. You should instead appeal directly to the Head of RP as it will save everyone involved time.

Next, as an old member, I would think you would remember what happened the last time the RP tried to change the system it operates on. When the post count system was eliminated last time and changed to the short lived Ranking system, it causes outcries from nearly everyone besides those ranked Kages or higher. While the post count system isn't the best one, it works. And the only thing that "changes" is the rank, you don't get automatic training so in the end, you still are undergoing training. Granted, it isn't the most RP method of doing things, but it has worked for a great amount of time. Alternatives like the ranking system would be drastic indeed and at this stage of our RP, with so many things tied to the post count, it would be hard to change it around and have it be a successful change where we don't end up reverting back to the post count system. Matter of fact, take the ranking system we tried years ago. Post count was eliminated, we were given Ninja Cards and Senseis taught only one rank (Roku taught Genins, Ace Chuunin, Izuna, Jounin, etc) and in order to be advanced to the next rank, you had to submit battles of you defeating members of a higher rank and then submitting it to be checked and evaluated to see whether you should be promoted and what happened? Fights were taking too long to be evaluated, members were calling foul of the mods saying that some fights didn't demonstrate enough skill to be ranked up, and overall, it wasn't liked overall so we ended up scrapping it and going back to the old post count method. The NB Community doesn't always take to change in the best way. What might be thought of as a progressive move forward could possibly and likely be seen as "bad" and "dumb" in their eyes, a change from the norm. I'm not saying that the post count method couldn't be changed, but that it will be difficult not to make a new system, but to implement it smoothly and efficiently.

Regarding the above quote (i sectioned it off to make it easier to read and respond to), I can't see a plausible reason for cutting back on the amount of elements we can use. Granted, it brings us closer to the manga and anime in some aspects, but what makes our RP as fun as it is is the fact that we are allowed to use multiple elements and jutsu is partially what makes it as fun. Besides, in a fight, you are always allowed to set your own restraints, making it so that only 2 or 3 elements can be used + a KG/HA/CC/KT as well. Plus what do you recommend for those who have CJ and CE which have multiple elements used? If I have a wood bio, I am automatically inclined to use water and earth in your suggestion, but what if i have multiple CJ that use Fire or wind release? What if I have 2 CE based on fire? They just disappear? They get revoked and others are allowed to make them? Either option leads to more issues than the ones they solve.

As for bio specialists (which is what I think you are meaning), I'm not sure about this either. For one, they also promote the same issue as above, if a Generalist has Forbidden ranked customs, or a Fighter has genjutsu customs`and A ranked fuuinjutsus, and Illusionist with S ranked cj and above, this would automatically cause issues with that. Beyond that, even if a method was worked out with that, it has too many inconsistencies. Say I choose to be a mid range fighter. Would that limit me from using short range or long range jutsu, canon and custom? If I move to close range or long range, am I essentially a sitting duck? Same for any other range, too many inconsistencies as well as being unneeded.

 

[Scorps]

Out of the respect for you, the one I still have, I won't reply to this.

 

[Cursed Prince]

I like the idea of picking roles, I've always been open to dropping elements, my fighting style does no include water and earth, I only touch them or the "elemental advantage counter". So I'm all for the dropping elements and restricting us more in the regard of we choose what we have not have everything

EDIT: And Cp, why would you want to keep all five elements when you can barely use one

Im sorry, didn't think you could speak after Broly owned you. Ill say what I always say
Make
the
thread

 

[Lord of Kaos]

CP, you and Delta take your "who has the biggest stick?" contest to Skype or to VM.

 

[Howard]

But ever since Zen left and "others" were brought in and have taken over, they have admittedly gotten lazier than a middle-aged sloth, about their duties mostly because they are bored, or "tired" of hearing the members ***** them out (yes Kumo member and Ame members your the focal point of that remark), or they feel like there is just too damned much to deal with at times.

Wasn't going to post but that jab at other members caught my attention. So it's our fault the mod's get bored and tired of their job? It's our fault they have a life or the don't want to hear another point of view? It's our fault because we do exactly what you're doing now? Why would you put yourself above others as if you're except from your own statement? That whole post was you '*****ing' about the rp's future to who? The mods-...

Last time I checked I didn't tell them to take the job. They did that on their own for their own reasons. Just like a government official if they can't deal with people's problems then obviously they're in the wrong line of work as a large portion of their job is to make the rp run smoothly for the common member.

As for the restrictions you're going to get the same answer that's given every time those same restrictions are given (this isn't the first time they've been suggested we both know that not like you're some kind of innovator.) Your bio can be what you want it to be. You can restrict your fights to whatever you want and if that isn't enough then the mods can't help you any further.

You talk about the golden age, I don't think those restrictions were around during the golden age so why would they create a new golden age as you put it?

 

[Never]

Out of the respect for you, the one I still have, I won't reply to this.

Thanks for the new quote :3

OT : Also getting rid of the five elements will ruin people who have CE's, they may like Wind and lightning, but have a CE based on fire and earth for example.

 

[Souji]

I like these suggestions. Make the RP a little more balanced and specialized. It also promotes more interplay and teamwork with RPers who have a different skill set from what they have.

Personally, as an RPer, I want to see more story-oriented things for the RP. But that's a whole different topic for another day.

In conclusion, I think we all have our desired visions for the RP but if we really wanted to make genuine changes to improve its health we'd come together as a community and try and roll them out slowly.

But that's hard because people like their jutsus, customs, etc. Lol

 

[Penguin]

Delta and CP need to keep their little love affair to themselves.

I like the idea on only a couple elements per bio. It would bring a more realistic approach to the game. The post count ranking system is garbage, but it is all they can do. Most of the people who play the game don't really spam that much and have a low post count. Other factors, such as tavern deletion also affect one's post count which is humorous. But I will put that "little" issue aside.

The mod idea is good, but not all mods are comfortable helping in areas they do not specialize in.

 

[Typhon]

I like the idea of picking roles, I've always been open to dropping elements, my fighting style does no include water and earth, I only touch them or the "elemental advantage counter". So I'm all for the dropping elements and restricting us more in the regard of we choose what we have not have everything

EDIT: And Cp, why would you want to keep all five elements when you can barely use one

I've always been down for the limited elements idea. When I use my Gaara bio I usually try to stick with only sand, wind and bijutsu already. I also think it would make Kakuzu or other characters who can overcome the element limit (Hiruzen, Kakashi, Kin/Gin bros using the banana fan thing, etc.) more meaningful.

But at this point I think its too late to do something like that.

 

[Tsukune]

I enjoy the element reduction idea very much, so much in fact that in my planned future of the NB RP, in being an official sage(whenever that happens), i had already made it so that my CC would be restricted to three elements.

As far as the CE/KG situation with the elements, i reasonably would say those aren't affected. Ex. you cghoose water and wind, but have a lightning/fire CE, you can still use the CE, just no basic fire or lightning rechniques, i see nothing wrong with that.

 

[Edward]

Get rid of the post count pls ;_;

Anyways, I think 2-3 elements would be nice for NW ... Makes it more RP like and you can still have all elements, but just for unofficial things >.>

 

[Sanzen]

Out of the respect for you, the one I still have, I won't reply to this.

You just did, you stand for the rules as a moderator and yet you're spamming. SPAM = Stupid Pointless Annoying Messages. This message was pointless and only meant to anger.
Yes, you said you respect him but it was more like mockery. "The one I still have for you" = the little respect I have for you.
I'd rather have someones full respect or none at all. Kinda insulting if you ask me. yeah, yeah, yeah, you weren't asking me. I don't care, I gave my opinion anyway.


@Zanji
I agree with removing the post count system. People rush through the rp and don't get to enjoy the smaller things about it because they have such a high post count. I never rped much but I've gone through some older threads that grim, nexus and blizzard have linked and there was a lot of fun in those threads, I even read through a ton of pages form the konoha high school.
But with that being said, they aren't going to revamp the rp now, registrations are closed, the rp is dying, the site is dying and the manga is coming to an end. I just don't see the revamp you are calling for happening any time soon or at all for that matter.

People aren't going to stop being impatient, they aren't going to stop hating on the mods and they certainly aren't going to stop complaining. They under appreciate the staff and all that they do. But they don't see it as under appreciation, they see it as "why the **** is it taking so long? it's their job, I don't care that they have a real life, if they are too busy, then step down". I know this because I was once one of those **** members that thought that.

Also, I'm sure some staff members want to help out their fellow staff but are too afraid of bruising someones ego or stepping on someones toes to step in and help. Who knows, maybe they need to get permission from Cali to help another person and by the time they get permission, the job has been handled or that person isn't qualified enough to do the job.

Well Too DAMNED bad you WILLINGLY signed up to be a mod of that section now, suck up your damned balls and be just as willing to do more, Yes some of you are doing exceptional in your given sections, while others are falling behind for either feeling overwhelmed or just don't give a damn anymore, or even a combination of the two. Now where I work, my bosses commend you for going outside of your job description and willing to do more, so I don't see why Cali would be upset if some of y'all took the inspiration to try and do a bit more, maybe ask the governing mod of that section if they would like to have some help with some of the stuff that needs to be done, instead of sitting in your little hiding hole of the RP and not stepping out of that comfort zone.

This is why they don't want to help out, because of comments like this. People acting and speaking like they are above and know more than them. Putting them down and criticizing at every ****ing turn.
Maybe if the staff was a bit more respected throughout the entire community, there wouldn't be such a big gap between them but they are treated as dogs/slaves and the enemy.
That's what really needs to stop and I know I don't have much credibility on this subject because I was a prick to most of the staff in my past years on the site.

 

[Edward]

Also, now that I think about it, I think that having a third bio that can only use a few elements could be used as experiments >.> if it doesn't go well, then deleting those bios won't be too hard

Penguin you make me lol z.z

 

[Bhil]

Also, now that I think about it, I think that having a third bio that can only use a few elements could be used as experiments >.> if it doesn't go well, then deleting those bios won't be too hard

Penguin you make me lol z.z

2 Bios are enough. 3 are overdoing it.

@OP
I skimmed through the wall of text but what I got from that whole wall of text is that your complaining about the attitudes of the staff and the way they do things. Got nothing else to comment about that but that your suggestion at the end is horrible. ~_~

I'm kinda of losing hope in this RP, mainly because of the community that has really butchered on how the RP works. Everything is taken too damn serious and arguments are rampant in almost every NW fight. Those arguments are actually justified. If Member A loses to Member B, Member A becomes the laughing stock in the RP. To defend himself, Member A has to throw the cheapest/powerful techs at Member B to win and he might make a tiny mistake which will lead to 3 mods checking the fight. Another reason is that no one has any respect for each other when they fight. It's all about winning and claiming who has the biggest ****. It isn’t Roleplaying it’s about doing anything just to get a win. IMO winning over an argument isn’t a win. It’s just shows how desperate you are to win a battle in which has no consequences. Yeah… whatever, It’s the community that needs a ‘suggestion’ not the RP.

 

[Better]

Tbh I see it like this. All of you that want restrictions and post counts gone and no 5 elements will end up hating it. Then another disgruntled rper will make a thread saying that they don't like all the restrictions this RP has on them.

I don't see the problem with post count. I think that's just creating something out of nothing.

Let's be honest with ourselves, no one will ever be satisfied. Making little changes is good, drastic and rushed changes will ruin it even more than it apparently is.