your assuming that you know the full power of both ems and rinnegan madara which you dont, i agree young madara is obviously more mobile but as you saw rinnegan madara was hooked to the gedo so he had a chakra supply and look at nagato he became pain and his actual body wasnt used in battle. im not sayin old ass madara is stronger im just saying theres still alotta mystery about him so its hard to say
edit: and just cause madara hasnts shown all rinnegan techs doesnt mean he cant. he is clearly not fighting seriously
Agreed, i was saying you were completly wrong because like you said we dont know 100%. But based off what is shown in the manga and hinted, its say to assume ems is when he was at this best when alive.
Madara had awakened the Rinnegan through his natural lifespan. He was only able to summon Gedo Mazo after he awakened the Rinnegan.
Madara obviously knows some of the Rinnegan abilities (they are probably on the Uchiha tablet?) since he was able to summon the Mazo and use Preta Path. It isn't farfetched to say that he hasn't masterd them like Nagato however, since Madara hasn't shown many Rinne jutsu.
I agree that Madara never used Rinnegan in his prime but he could have been able to use wood style since he implanted Hashi's cells when he was young. He most likely used wood style to create the Hashi tree, so he had access to it in his lifetime.
Edo Madara was Kabuto's power until he released himself from Kabuto's control. Just like Itachi wasn't considered Kabuto's power when KA was placed on him.
Currently, Kabuto edo army is nothing. It seems that he needs to get the dna for his summons and create the contracts again since he has released the jutsu completely. If that is not the case, then I see no reason for why Itachi let Kabuto live after having him release Edo Tensei. If Kabuto could just summon his Edos again, Itachi would have killed or had Sasuke kill Kabuto after the jutsu was released. Kabuto would escape Izanami eventually.
So if you go by their primes in the overall timeline, Edo Madara would be on top because he is in control of himself or Kabuto because of his full Edo army (minus Madara for this argument).
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Right here leads me to believe he hadnt used Wood style, because he says "I want to try a jutsu" and then uses it. I could be wrong, but just pointing it out.
And about the edo madara part, you still dont get what im talking about. Im saying EDO madara is a product of kabuto no matter how you put it! Because its a fact if Kabuto doesnt
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then madara isnt even a thought! Thats like saying Naruto Clone beating 3rd raikage isnt naruto winning since it is "a product of naruto", or Ma and Pa killing the 3 pains; even though jman didnt use the genjutsu it counts as Jman winning since the Summons were "a product of Jman". etc etc
No matter how you put it, No Kabuto equals no EDO madara! And ppl forget that kabuto chose to keep Edo Madara's sense of mind still in tact like other edos (asuma, hiashi, kingin brothers, sasori, deidara) because he wanted them to do what they do on their own. But kabuto can choose to make them killing machines or mindless auto pilote machines if he chooses.
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This is literally the perfect picture to prove that kabuto can choose to make them think on their own or make them killing machines! Because at first they are mindless zombies then gain senses.
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And right here shows with a simple hand seal he can instantly erase their initial thoughts and make them obedient!
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ANd right here shows him with out them knowing or anything unsummoning them any time he pleases! Remember he is the controler and does as he please with them. The only reason HE couldnt regain Itachi before he went good was because it happened before kabuto even realized what happened (shisu MS was the reason and he didnt see that coming).
So all in all EDO MAdara=Kabuto and thats a fact of the manga.
And also, you take ninjas at their best not when at their worst! Kabuto with full edo army df=efeats everyone basically. If you dont take Kabuto at his best you dont take madara at his best and take him when he has regular sharingan at old age dieing. Hashirama at the point he died fron an unknown reason, Sarutobi at his old age past his prime, Jaraiya when his throat is crushed and arm blown off etc etc. If you dont take them at their weakest point why would you take kabuto at his weakest point??? Thats being hypercritical and obv biased. You either take every ninja at thier best or every ninja at the point they died or current! Simple as that, no other way!