Orochimaru vs Hidan and Kakuzu

[LoZelda101]

restriction: edo tensei

can use arms (feats only)

sc2: orochi vs kakuzu

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[Byakuren]

Kakuzu vs Orochimaru alone can be debated without Edo Tensei. Knowledge also is a heavy factor in this battle, seeing as if Orochimaru doesn't know of Hidan's ritual technique it's an automatic win for the Zombie Duo. Irregardless, I see the duo taking this win.

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[LoZelda101]

Kakuzu vs Orochimaru alone can be debated without Edo Tensei. Knowledge also is a heavy factor in this battle, seeing as if Orochimaru doesn't know of Hidan's ritual technique it's an automatic win for the Zombie Duo. Irregardless, I see the duo taking this win.

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I'll change it then. Who wins between kakuzu and orochi?

 

[Byakuren]

I'll change it then. Who wins between kakuzu and orochi?

Honestly, I believe Kakuzu would beat an ET restricted Orochimaru. Ah, but then you have to factor in Manda so actually Orochimaru would probably win if Kakuzu has no way of fatally wounding the serpent. So actually Manda gives Orochimaru the W if Kakuzu cannot cause a fatal wound to the him.

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[ToshiZO]

Restrict Manda and it becomes debatable. Orochimaru will be hard pressed to put the two down.

 

[Red Slayer]

Orochimaru solos.... u need restrict Hydra Mode and Manda alongside ET to Make this fair....

 

[Byakuren]

Orochimaru solos.... u need restrict Hydra Mode and Manda alongside ET to Make this fair....

Hydra is featless; merely a large target posing no real threat.

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[Red Slayer]

Hydra is featless; merely a large target posing no real threat.

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LMFAO just bc Itachi Sealed it using Gods weapon doesn't mean it is weak. Kakuzu can not even do shit against it, i mean burn it with his tiny fire? Or Atsugai LMfao.

 

[Anbu Knights]

The Hydra is nearly the size of the mountain nearby (boss summon size), is probably not going to die unless all eight heads are dealt with, and most likely possesses a nasty venom

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. It's not something Kakuzu is going to be able to casually wave off.

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not to forget if you don't catch even one snake, Orochimaru just slithers away.

 

[Byakuren]

The Hydra is nearly the size of the mountain nearby (boss summon size), is probably not going to die unless all eight heads are dealt with, and most likely possesses a nasty venom

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. It's not something Kakuzu is going to be able to casually wave off.

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not to forget if you don't catch even one snake, Orochimaru just slithers away.

LMFAO just bc Itachi Sealed it using Gods weapon doesn't mean it is weak. Kakuzu can not even do shit against it, i mean burn it with his tiny fire? Or Atsugai LMfao.

An Zukokku + Atsugai combination would burn it to a crisp, you need to reread said Zombie Arc if you think that an Atsugai enforced Zukokku is "tiny." Eight Branches was never shown to be durable/resistant enough to tank said elements/element combination. Let's not apply feats it doesn't have/hasn't been shown to have. Let's also not hype up a featless technique. Eight Branches isn't Gamabunta/Manda size. Slightly/marginally smaller.

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[Anbu Knights]

As stated previously, it isn't something casually and effortlessly waved off by Kakuzu.

 

[Zexion~]

:lol

Anyways if feats only is a thing does that mean no Zetsu feats?

Kakuzu solos this mid-high difficulty, hydra has zero in the way of feats, nothing to say it won't be taken down by Kakuzu's bigger Katon +Fuuton. If not repeated blasts from it, meanwhile Oro can do nothing to harm Kakuzu here.

 

[Byakuren]

As stated previously, it isn't something casually and effortlessly waved off by Kakuzu.

As stated previously, don't give featless techniques feats/hype it hasn't acclaimed.

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[Anbu Knights]

As stated previously, don't give featless techniques feats/hype it hasn't acclaimed.

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Probably and most likely indicate educated guesses, not attributing feats. I don't need to create hype that exists already. It's stated to be Orochimaru's strongest snake-related technique.

The S-rank technique stated to transcend snake and become dragon god isn't something someone needs to create hype for.

and obviously it doesn't have feats...it emerged and was slashed to bits.

 

[Byakuren]

Probably and most likely indicate educated guesses, not attributing feats. I don't need to create hype that exists already. It's stated to be Orochimaru's strongest snake-related technique. The S-rank technique stated to transcend snake and become dragon god isn't something someone needs to create hype for.

and obviously it doesn't have feats...it emerged and was slashed to bits.

Then silence yourself child.

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[Booker]

Lol Orochimaru could trash these clowns with nothing but Kusanagi and Snake techs. He was stale-mating a 4-Tail Jinchuriki with no arms or ninjutsu a few days (weeks at most) from being on his deathbed.

Hydra is overkill.

 

[Byakuren]

Lol Orochimaru could trash these clowns with nothing but Kusanagi and Snake techs.

Hydra is overkill.

And yet, you have the nerve to quote & sig other people on their stupidity, and can't seem to acknowledge your own. Double standards are double standards. Spoiler You must be registered for see images

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[Booker]

And yet, you have the nerve to quote & sig other people on their stupidity, and can't seem to acknowledge your own. Double standards are double standards. Spoiler You must be registered for see images

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Don't like what I'm positing?

Argue against it. I'm fully open to admitting I'm wrong when faced with an argument I haven't considered.

 

[Byakuren]

Don't like what I'm positing?

Argue against it. I'm fully open to admitting I'm wrong when faced with an argument I haven't considered.

Kusanagi isn't getting through Domu, it couldn't even pierce through a 4T cloak, Kusanagi isn't doing anything to Hidan as well, and if Orochimaru decides to use it against Hidan, Hidan will intentionally get impaled to get close to Orochimaru, and acquire his blood via any means necessary. Snake techniques... Kakuzu only needs to unleash Zukokku to burn ten-thousand snakes to cinders. What else does Orochimaru have again that the Zombie Duo doesn't counter effortlessly? Hydra has no feats previously stated, that is burned to cinders with one, or two Atsugai enforced Zukokku. The only threat is Manda, but with the distance no specified, and with the constant pressure Kakuzu, and Hidan would emit it's doubtful Manda will be summoned.

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[Booker]

Kusanagi isn't getting through Domu, it couldn't even pierce through a 4T cloak, Kusanagi isn't doing anything to Hidan as well, and if Orochimaru decides to use it against Hidan, Hidan will intentionally get impaled to get close to Orochimaru, and acquire his blood via any means necessary. Snake techniques... Kakuzu only needs to unleash Zukokku to burn ten-thousand snakes to cinders. What else does Orochimaru have again that the Zombie Duo doesn't counter effortlessly? Hydra has no feats previously stated, that is burned to cinders with one, or two Atsugai enforced Zukokku. The only threat is Manda, but with the distance no specified, and with the constant pressure Kakuzu, and Hidan would emit it's doubtful Manda will be summoned.

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Hidan is a non-factor here. Orochimaru uses 1 Thousand Snakes to give himself some
breathing room, and then does this;

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To Hidan. Hidan is bisected from the crotch up and is reduced to making witty comments for the rest of the fight.

Kakuzu absolutely can obliterate 1 Thousand Snakes. Domu tanks Kusangi, but Kakuzu is unable to continually keep Domu active. And that's only on his own person - any masks he releases are vulnerable to being struck through the heart by a projectile Kusangi or a long range Kusangi.

Survival isn't an issue for Orochimaru here. Oral Rebirth or Hiding Mole negs anything Kakuzu tries to catch him in. In the event Orochimaru is going to get caught, Rashoman tanks and obscures vision. Orochimaru has the speed to engage Kakuzu after being hidden, he blitzed 4-Tail Naruto with a punch point-blank. Considering Kakuzu does not constantly have Domu active, this means death.

I overstated for effect, this isn't low-diff with just these techs. High diff for Orochimaru, and even then I'm not confident he's able to destroy every mask before Oral Rebirth tires him. Throw in Manda and Hydra, though? Lol. Then it truly is low diff. Atsugau/Kakuzu's Katon isn't doing jack to either of those. Hydra and Manda both tank comfortably. Worst case scenario? Manda goes underground and attacks Kakuzu.