Orochimaru vs Hidan and Kakuzu

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It's a battle of durability considering all 3 ninja are extremely hard to kill. I give it to Hidan/Kakazu pulling a victory but regardless of who is victorious in the battle, the loser won't be killed.
 

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If pro uses hydra all hiden needs to do is cut it a bit then use his ritual for instant win being a bigger target isn't better in that case
 

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If pro uses hydra all hiden needs to do is cut it a bit then use his ritual for instant win being a bigger target isn't better in that case
Which raises the issue of how Orochimaru's blood works. Does he have traditional blood? His body turns to snakes, sheds (leaving just skin) or sometimes just turns into globby white substance.

The hydra? Almost definitely does not have blood.
 

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Ah good eye! Shows me for exclusively following the European version of the anime at this time in the series. I get Oro's Hydra mixed up with Kabuto's Chikara one / Manda II.

The snake is out but I still don't believe nicking blood will work so effectively on Oro's body. Also I hate to be backing Orochimaru here (because I don't think he wins) but would Hidan even be battle-capable at that stage of the battle if Oro's pushed enough to bust out his trump card?

Also was Orochimaru's Hydra attack game only?
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Ah good eye! Shows me for exclusively following the European version of the anime at this time in the series. I get Oro's Hydra mixed up with Kabuto's Chikara one / Manda II.

The snake is out but I still don't believe nicking blood will work so effectively on Oro's body. Also I hate to be backing Orochimaru here (because I don't think he wins) but would Hidan even be battle-capable at that stage of the battle if Oro's pushed enough to bust out his trump card?

Also was Orochimaru's Hydra attack game only?
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I think Orochimaru may be able to endure the cursed possession blood jutsu considering he survived being bisected by 4 tailed naruto.

The energy hydra beam was game only unfortunately. Wish Kishi implented that into the manga.

In this battle I think kauzu will be the main reason the team would win. Hidan can be taken out but it won't be easy with kakuzu around.
 

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you are saying Hidan will get bisected but your scan shows Orochimaru stabbing 4 tailed naruto from long range. Do you mean Hidan will get cut in two down the middle? I think that's what toshizo meant.

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Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. And Hidan will get bisected, because that's how swords work. I don't understand the confusion here.
 

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Hidan is a non-factor here. Orochimaru uses 1 Thousand Snakes to give himself some
breathing room, and then does this;

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To Hidan. Hidan is bisected from the crotch up and is reduced to making witty comments for the rest of the fight.

Kakuzu absolutely can obliterate 1 Thousand Snakes. Domu tanks Kusangi, but Kakuzu is unable to continually keep Domu active. And that's only on his own person - any masks he releases are vulnerable to being struck through the heart by a projectile Kusangi or a long range Kusangi.

Survival isn't an issue for Orochimaru here. Oral Rebirth or Hiding Mole negs anything Kakuzu tries to catch him in. In the event Orochimaru is going to get caught, Rashoman tanks and obscures vision. Orochimaru has the speed to engage Kakuzu after being hidden, he blitzed 4-Tail Naruto with a punch point-blank. Considering Kakuzu does not constantly have Domu active, this means death.

I overstated for effect, this isn't low-diff with just these techs. High diff for Orochimaru, and even then I'm not confident he's able to destroy every mask before Oral Rebirth tires him. Throw in Manda and Hydra, though? Lol. Then it truly is low diff. Atsugau/Kakuzu's Katon isn't doing jack to either of those. Hydra and Manda both tank comfortably. Worst case scenario? Manda goes underground and attacks Kakuzu.
Lmaoooo omg you're incredible.

Do people forget that snakes are cold-blooded? Being around something that was hot enough to evaporate water in seconds should render Manda's energy capacity to near zero, and if this is in character I doubt he'd want to participate regardless.



lol @ 1000 snakes when fuuton alone would disperse them enough to render them useless if a mere shock-wave got the job done, Hydra has no feats so it gets turned to Ash just like how Manda had to shed his skin to avoid being burnt by a probably less potent flame-oil combo.

This is an easy win with the duo here and a mid diff win for Kakuzu alone, not even addressing your blade argument as its awful.
 

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What Jutsu Oro have that can actually damage Kakuzu Domu.

People need to stop wanking Manda durability . Jiraiya Katon would can kill it otherwise it would have to dodge it.
he's unfortunately featless despite knowing lightning release. jiraiya used toad oil to strengthen his katon, to which manda shedded and counter attacked underneath. kinda like what sasuke did itachis amaterasu.
It's a battle of durability considering all 3 ninja are extremely hard to kill. I give it to Hidan/Kakazu pulling a victory but regardless of who is victorious in the battle, the loser won't be killed.
Was thinking the samething, except for orochi hasn't shown much destructive attacks like kakuzu did sadly.
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hm, does that count as orochi's blood?
 

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Lowkey might as it sprung from his chakra and he was clearly physically attached to it, either way taking out the Hydra with the ritual would be enough.
Not even lowkey, when have we seen a construct that isn't a separate summoning (i.e. toad, snake etc.) shed blood that wasn't the users? Hydra is obviously Orochimaru's true form. If that's the case, which I undoubtedly believe is, Hidan can solo here.

Acquire blood -> Stab self repeatedly -> Dead Orochimaru.
 

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Not even lowkey, when have we seen a construct that isn't a separate summoning (i.e. toad, snake etc.) shed blood that wasn't the users? Hydra is obviously Orochimaru's true form. If that's the case, which I undoubtedly believe is, Hidan can solo here.
When have we seen another construct like that? His true form is simply the white-snake form though, not the Hydra plus idk if Hidan could solo but with Kakuzu's threads he's easily using the ritual.
 

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When have we seen another construct like that? His true form is simply the white-snake form though, not the Hydra plus idk if Hidan could solo but with Kakuzu's threads he's easily using the ritual.
Exactly we haven't which implies that was in fact his blood. Eight Branches is probably a further manipulation of his true form, which is why it was shown to bleed, and manifest with his chakra, and why he was able to surface himself (albeit being connected to the hydra). I strongly feel that Hidan could solo here on that premise, especially if intel is manga/none, and Orochimaru does this technique from the start.
 

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Exactly we haven't which implies that was in fact his blood. Eight Branches is probably a further manipulation of his true form, which is why it was shown to bleed, and manifest with his chakra, and why he was able to surface himself (albeit being connected to the hydra). I strongly feel that Hidan could solo here on that premise, especially if intel is manga/none, and Orochimaru does this technique from the start.
Why would he use that technique from the start against Hidan though, idk I'll stick to saying Kakuzu solos for now.
 
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