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Wait, what? How exactly did that simplified charts support a position of Bleach being repetitive and cliched? And if that was your point, why exactly were you arguing with me about Bleach being all over the place.Something being repetitive and cliches is a complete contrast of something being all over the place.If Bleach storyline is repetitive then it can't be all over the place because it simply repeating itself over and over again.You are Lucasing the shit out of this argument, aren't you?
When was I the one arguing here? I posted the chart, then pointed out why the chart is accurate, then you got all mad when I tried to explain the reason for the chart. And this isn't an argument, this is a lesson.
 

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Wait, what? How exactly did that simplified charts support a position of Bleach being repetitive and cliched? And if that was your point, why exactly were you arguing with me about Bleach being all over the place.Something being repetitive and cliches is a complete contrast of something being all over the place.If Bleach storyline is repetitive then it can't be all over the place because it simply repeating itself over and over again.You are Lucasing the shit out of this argument, aren't you?

Agree,well said.+rep :D
 

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When was I the one arguing here? I posted the chart, then pointed out why the chart is accurate, then you got all mad when I tried to explain the reason for it. And this isn't an argument, this is a lesson.
Anyone with a 8th grade education knows when two or more people are debating a subject the term argument is used.Furthermore,I haven't shown the slightest hint of angry, I'm arguing a point.Now, stop ducking the question.
 

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Wait, what? How exactly did that simplified charts support a position of Bleach being repetitive and cliched? And if that was your point, why exactly were you arguing with me about Bleach being all over the place.Something being repetitive and cliches is a complete contrast of something being all over the place.If Bleach storyline is repetitive then it can't be all over the place because it simply repeating itself over and over again.You are Lucasing the shit out of this argument, aren't you?
Because bleach is all over the place when you compare like Mugi did. Its pretty obvious the chart represents the anime in general thus including all fillers and the thread starter is also talking about the anime that's why the chart is relevant. Now if you're like me and watch all three you'll realise One Piece sticks to the main storyline and doesn't keep creating irrelevant fillers that last 3 months. Unlike Bleach fillers where Ichigo always seems to end up in Soul Society saving someone dragging the series a few months or so. And then there are Naruto fillers which last the longest talking about cats and mushrooms....

I place Bleach on top of all my anime's but I do admit it doesn't stick closely to the storyline.
 

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Because bleach is all over the place when you compare like Mugi did. Its pretty obvious the chart represents the anime in general thus including all fillers and the thread starter is also talking about the anime that's why the chart is relevant. Now if you're like me and watch all three you'll realise One Piece sticks to the main storyline and doesn't keep creating irrelevant fillers that last 3 months. Unlike Bleach fillers where Ichigo always seems to end up in Soul Society saving someone dragging the series a few months or so. And then there are Naruto fillers which last the longest talking about cats and mushrooms....
I guess I should have just said it like that. Though I could have sworn the way I said it would have been a lot easier for someone to understand.
Lets also note that OP doesn't even have 100 fillers in total and yet it has 521 episodes, where Bleach is on episode 346, and has had more fillers :|
 

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I guess I should have just said it like that. Though I could have sworn the way I said it would have been a lot easier for someone to understand.
Lets also note that OP doesn't even have 100 fillers in total and yet it has 521 episodes, where Bleach is on episode 346, and has had more fillers :|
And that xD
 

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Because bleach is all over the place when you compare like Mugi did. Its pretty obvious the chart represents the anime in general thus including all fillers and the thread starter is also talking about the anime that's why the chart is relevant. Now if you're like me and watch all three you'll realise One Piece sticks to the main storyline and doesn't keep creating irrelevant fillers that last 3 months. Unlike Bleach fillers where Ichigo always seems to end up in Soul Society saving someone dragging the series a few months or so. And then there are Naruto fillers which last the longest talking about cats and mushrooms....

I place Bleach on top of all my anime's but I do admit it doesn't stick closely to the storyline.

The problem with this logic is no one take into account the fillers.The fillers aren't apart of the story.Fillers aren't written by the mangas authors.That a fact.Fillers are just time savers for the manga authors.It'S like jutsuS that are in animes that are not in the manga.They are disregard.Fillers episodes are disregarded because they are not a part of the story line.Trying to take into account fillers is like claiming that the commercials you see during a television show are a part of said television show.Also, in one of my previous post, I pretty sure I made clear that I was excluding fillers.And if that charts is taking into account the fillers, it's a dumb chart.Which you are pretty much assuming that simple charts is taking into account the fillers, seeing as it give no indication that it is.
 

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The problem with this logic is no one take into account the fillers.The fillers aren't apart of the story.Fillers aren't written by the mangas authors.That a fact.Fillers are just time savers for the manga authors.It'S like jutsuS that are in animes that are not in the manga.They are disregard.Fillers episodes are disregarded because they are not a part of the story line.Trying to take into account fillers is like claiming that the commercials you see during a television show are a part of said television show.Also, in one of my previous post, I pretty sure I made clear that I was excluding fillers.And if that charts is taking into account the fillers, it's a dumb chart.Which you are pretty much assuming that simple charts is taking into account the fillers, seeing as it give no indication that it is.
lol....

The point is the thread is about One Piece Anime and the chart is related to the Anime.

The chart is talking about the anime + filler because its obvious that if it wasn't One Piece would be a straight line and so would the others -_-.

Next, yes fillers are not part of the main storyline but if you were someone who did not read the manga you would continue to watch the anime. Therefore, the random filler story and episodes would confuse the viewers thus making the anime unorganized. Not everyone reads the manga:shrug:

Thus, if I didn't read manga and I watched both One Piece and Bleach which would seem less confusing and more straightforward? One Piece with less than 100 fillers out of 500 episodes or Bleach with half of its total episodes fillers(exaggeration)?

Bleach: Saving Rukia --> random bounts filler?--> Arrancars + Hueco Mundo --> Amagai filler?--> Hueco Mundo + past + battle of karakura--> Zanpakto rebellion? --> Owning Aizen --> More filler

One Piece: No such thing as a filler arc only 2 or 3 random episodes like once every 3 arcs..
 

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lol....

The point is the thread is about One Piece Anime and the chart is related to the Anime.

The chart is talking about the anime + filler because its obvious that if it wasn't One Piece would be a straight line and so would the others -_-.

Next, yes fillers are not part of the main storyline but if you were someone who did not read the manga you would continue to watch the anime. Therefore, the random filler story and episodes would confuse the viewers thus making the anime unorganized. Not everyone reads the manga:shrug:

Thus, if I didn't read manga and I watched both One Piece and Bleach which would seem less confusing and more straightforward? One Piece with less than 100 fillers out of 500 episodes or Bleach with half of its total episodes fillers(exaggeration)?

Bleach: Saving Rukia --> random bounts filler?--> Arrancars + Hueco Mundo --> Amagai filler?--> Hueco Mundo + past + battle of karakura--> Zanpakto rebellion? --> Owning Aizen --> More filler

One Piece: No such thing as a filler arc only 2 or 3 random episodes like once every 3 arcs..

I see your point,while there are things I can argue further, I will leave it at that.
 

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even kishimoto is struggling to rival eichiro oda in wsj LOL
and some ppl keep saying OP is nowhere near naruto ? LOL
i mean OP sold over 200 million copy all over the world
and naruto recently reach 100 million LOL
 

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one piece does have a good plot i love one piece not better than naruto tho and the first 20 episodes came out years ago gotta give it time till you start to like it
 

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even kishimoto is struggling to rival eichiro oda in wsj LOL
and some ppl keep saying OP is nowhere near naruto ? LOL
i mean OP sold over 200 million copy all over the world
and naruto recently reach 100 million LOL
i don't look at sales dude pokemon net income is in the billions!, so that automatically makes pokemon better than OP right?
 

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I like both series and there pros and cons to both but OP is definitely something you have to really watch to understand why its amazing and not something that should be judged by 20 episodes.
If only more people had that type of common sense U_U
I am one of them. Sure OP started of terribly for me, but after watching more I got hooked. Same with Naruto and Bleach. Yes people have personal opinions but if you're going to judge an anime/manga at least watch/read up to the current arc. Otherwise just drop it and forget about it.
 
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i'm talking bout the series on a whole, naruto, OP, bleach, fairy tale is poor comparing to pokemon.
We were talking about the manga sales previously. Pokemon's main source of money are the games, then the anime, then the manga, and then everything else that has pikachu's face and stuff.

I don't think there's a stadistical source to rely for this (I will look it up, though) but I'm not sure if they would be poor in comparison. Yes, Pokémon is a legend, but it isn't what it used to be. Best Wishes isn't as popular as One Piece or Naruto Bleach maybe, Bleach has been somewhat in decline lately...) However, this is just a simple opinion. The actual answer might surprise us all, but I don't think Pokémon surpasses the others so greatly all in all.
 

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is a huge load of crap, i watched like 20 episodes and got sick of the stupidity, there is absolutely nothing spectacular about the plot, the drawing or the action. compared to naruto and NS it is a epic fail.

i can't understand how a sane person could consider OP better than naruto, that kind of thinking is moronic imo.
Ask for opinions first. One piece is ages old and progresses very slowly unlike Naruto which one character gets strong overnight. If you want to see the progress without getting the background start watching the later episodes from Crocodile period onward, or later during the rescue of Nico Robin. Warning: you will miss out on all the background of some people and how he gathers his crew but you'll catch on from flashbacks etc. For instance, Tobi: "When did he learn that" (Sasuke's summon: Bird). Some anime skip, and some don't: One Piece and Dragon Ball Z. And, in all honesty, there are about 150 Naruto Episodes, if that many, the rest are all fillers. Most of OP is not fillers (Yes, that many).
 
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