[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 596 Discussion and 597 Predictions

[joe256]

Usually when Naruto says Don't underestimate me he say, "UZUMAKI NARUTO!!" afterwards, now do you get it?

 

[EliteKakashi]

Wtf the manga just said his attack were on a higher level why waste time writin that it the attacks were the same. The paths have the 5 second interval not the main body Tobi is no path. Ofcourse Tobi will lose plot would never allow him to win

On a higher level..what does that mean? You can't tell for sure. One thing we can tell for sure is there was at least a 5 second interval between each use of it, giving me no reason to believe he can just spam it. And again, wouldn't even matter. Bee can counter it easily. Shinra tensei = useless.

 

[Ryu sannin]

The only reason that I'm persistent in believing his name is Uchiha Kaenjin over the fact that it is a Jutsu is because of the context that it was written.

Dont underestimate me Uchiha Kaenjin, how much clearer can u get.

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Here you can see the "Suiton Suijinheki" is in another text and it's a jutsu.

 

[joe256]

I don't see a last name in Suiton Suijinheki do you? Nor does it say "Don't underestimate me" Suiton Suijinkhei.

 

[ARandomBlackKid]

Alright after lurking for a very long time I'm finally going to make my first post/theory .. Don't hate k? This is just my theory just ive been breaking down on tobi..like everyone else XD

First off i just want to point out some things about the Second Hokage, Tobirama Senju. Like the First he is directly related to the Sage. Obviously he has all of the knowledge of the past and is a genius. It was stated that he was practicing Space/Time Jutsu, like Tobi/Minato, but he never mastered it the way they did.

In the manga where he died we are introduced to Kagami Uchiha, who i assume was one of his students. As some people have stated he can possibly be Obitos father, but thats more assumptions. However, since he was trained by Tobirama I believe he has some basic understanding behind Space/Time Jutsu, Kagami (Who I believe to be Tobi) named his son in honor of his teacher, and his own Alias after him. He mastered what his master could not and he tried to teach his son some of it, or perhaps Obito saw his father practicing it and that is how he unlocked the ability to use Kamui, to which Kakashi now has. It can also explain why they share the same dimension

Kagami, who again i am assuming is Obitos father,and also directly related to Madara, would want revenge on the leaf for his only sons death, especially on Kakashi for not only letting his son die but also taking the eye of his son with the jutsu he mastered and his son witnessed, thus also possibly being a threat. Not to mention all his quotes of spite directly related to Kakashi it feels like Tobi hates him the most. Rin could possibly have seen what he was plotting and he silenced her as well as being a passive aggresive ******* on Kakkashi by eliminating the person he cared deeply for. He is also in the range to have known Madara and fight Minato, unlike Obito, and would want revenge directly on Minato for also not protecting his son.

Kakashi can use the Kamui because Obito had begin to unlock after witnessing his father practicing it and he had practiced it some.

In short Tobirama started to teach Kagami, who Kagami started to teach to Obito but he was killed and his sharingan was passed to Kakashi, which explains why Kakashi's sharingan can also use the Kamui.

There are some loops holes in this..such as assumptions and since Madara "died" before obito was born I am unsure as to how Kagami and he would have made their plans with Nagato's revival, unless there were more people involved such as Izuna still lurking around..Idk i have a lot of crazy theories

Izuna is dead. proof

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-The picture says Dead body so Izuna had died. Also even if he wasn't "Killed in battle honorably" He would of died by old age for sure. Even if he " Somehow didn't He lost both of his eyes from giving them to Madara. So he would of had to get new eyes from somebody and apperantly Tobi has a flipping FARM OF EYES from when Itachi went Pew pew pew pew on the clan due to his mission from danzo in order to protect Sasuke.

 

[joe256]

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Here you can see the "Suiton Suijinheki" is in another text and it's a jutsu.

You can also see in that Image that Kakashi is saying in his mind what he thinks, not out loud.

 

[Ryu sannin]

I don't see a last name in Suiton Suijinheki do you? Nor does it say "Don't underestimate me" Suiton Suijinkhei.

You simply don't want to accept this possibility, do you? If you want I can photoshop it and can add "Don't underestimate me"

 

[HokageTobiramaXx]

You're claiming people are retarded - what's your opinion on who it is then?

My God, some of you people are completely insane...

First it was Tobi=Obito..
Now its Tobi=Obitos dad?

Once Kishi reveals who tobi is I am gonna save some of these retarted proposals and put them in my sig... shame forever

Never said anything about people being retarted...I called their thoughts retarted, because they just think of this stuff out of plain air...

SO, now he's Obito's father because that doesn't make any sense at all... And earlier he was obito because Kakashi's and Tobi's abilities are somewhat intertwined.... Yeah come write me an essay to try and prove tobi is Obito or Obito's father.

 

[joe256]

I believe that when it comes to unmasking tobi or masked man or whatever you have to think about motive. Who has the most motive to destroy the ninja world. Obito loved Konoha and gave up his life for Kakashi, he would not want to kill him. Izuna is dead. Kagami is a long shot.
Uchiha Kaenjin is his name, who he is is the game.

 

[Ryu sannin]

You can also see in that Image that Kakashi is saying in his mind what he thinks, not out loud.

But do you see a jutsu right after that?

 

[william7]

all killer no filler

 

[joe256]

You simply don't want to accept this possibility, do you? If you want I can photoshop it and can add "Don't underestimate me"

You simply don't want to accept that Kishimoto has given you the masked mans name. You dont see Uchiha Kaenjin saying the name of his Teleportation jutsu everytime he does it. Its not out of this world that he was thinking about his name or maybe I'm wrong and he was saying it out loud, but I do not believe it was the name of whatever jutsu he did.

 

[farheen]

Well, Here is my theory.

Tobi could be Obito. When he got crushed under the rocks , he probably activated the ability to transport the half of his crushed body to the dimensional space.

He just didn't realise back then that he had activated his space time ability . Remember Obito say's he can't feel the right half of his body. Later he realizes his ability and escapes from the rocks by teleporting his entire body to the dimensional space. He has a grudge against Kakashi since Rin liked Kakashi more than him.

 

[HokageTobiramaXx]

He mastered what his master could not and he tried to teach his son some of it, or perhaps Obito saw his father practicing it and that is how he unlocked the ability to use Kamui, to which Kakashi now has. It can also explain why they share the same dimension.

Kakashi can use the Kamui because Obito had begin to unlock after witnessing his father practicing it and he had practiced it some.

In short Tobirama started to teach Kagami, who Kagami started to teach to Obito but he was killed and his sharingan was passed to Kakashi, which explains why Kakashi's sharingan can also use the Kamui.

Obito didn't unlock sharingan till the events in Gaiden Kakashi..so Obito couldn't unlock it..also second hokage teaching a technique to his subordinates that doesn't require the sharingan, but they somehow need the sharingan to use it...Kagami is not the father of Obito...:sy:

Well, Here is my theory.

Tobi could be Obito. When he got crushed under the rocks , he probably activated the ability to transport the half of his crushed body to the dimensional space.

He just didn't realise back then that he had activated his space time ability . Remember Obito say's he can't feel the right half of his body. Later he realizes his ability and escapes from the rocks by teleporting his entire body to the dimensional space. He has a grudge against Kakashi since Rin liked Kakashi more than him.

so NOW, Obito has a grudge against Kakashi because he voluntarily gave his sharingan to him...and because of this grudge against Kakashi he wants to destroy the whole Shinobi World....:sy::sy::sy:

Do you not notice it's a bigger picture than Kakashi and Obito... It's someone that's been here since the beggining of time itself, or atleast someone who know's everything since the foundation of the Shinobi World... :sy::sy::sy:

 

[Ryu sannin]

You simply don't want to accept that Kishimoto has given you the masked mans name. You dont see Uchiha Kaenjin saying the name of his Teleportation jutsu everytime he does it. Its not out of this world that he was thinking about his name or maybe I'm wrong and he was saying it out loud, but I do not believe it was the name of whatever jutsu he did.

But what's the whole purpose of revealing his name first when it could have made a bigger impact if the name was mentioned after the face was revealed.

 

[joe256]

Hatake Raikiri, Uchiha Chidori, Uchiha Izanagi. sounds like a name to me.

 

[joe256]

But what's the whole purpose of revealing his name first when it could have made a bigger impact if the name was mentioned after the face was revealed.

Im not gonna argue about what Kishimoto is thinking, he the writer I just read it, but if u ask me he thought with the conclusion of the battle coming to an end soon that he would give u a juicy piece of the Masked mans Identity to keep it interesting and save the unveiling to for the end.

 

[ARandomBlackKid]

Patiently waits fo r when Tobi is r evealed to see the f ace on everybody ...
-My Friend-
[3:06:31 PM] K [Kuzami]: [2:49 PM] Kory#Dinosaurs Are awesome#Gabes a bad DDOSER:

<<< its not a technique
its his name
XD
WELL
I think its his name
a technique named like that is
really ****ed upAs far as Japanese goes... more evidince it's a skill...
[3:06:35 PM] K [Kuzami]: In the game Ragnarok:
[3:06:51 PM] K [Kuzami]: Kaenjin: Blaze Shield
Skill Type: Active / Self-Centered Area of Effect Magic Attack
Weapon Restriction: None
Max Level: 10
Prerequisites: Ninja Mastery Lv1, Flaming Petals Lv5
Adjustable Level: No
Range: Around Self
Attribute: Fire
Description: Creates a burning tempest around the caster, preventing others from entering. The fire formation creates burning cells in a 5x5 area around you, which deal damage and push back if someone attempts to enter. Each cell can take a certain number of hits before it dissipates.

A ninja can only have a single fire formation active at once. If you recast it, the old one will disappear and the new one will cast successfully. Fire Formation is canceled by magnetic earth. One Flame Stone is consumed when casting this skill.
It's a technique. "Don't udnerestimate me." Period. End of sentence. If he were leading into his name with that, there'd be a comma. "Uchiha Kaenjin!!" by itself bears no meaning unless he's using a technique because, as has been the case throughout all of Naruto, when characters use jutsus they say the name of the jutsu in their head. If he were thinking of his name, he would have followed the verbal context, and there would have been an "I am..." or "For I am..." preceeding "Uchiha Kaenjin". There's the verbal context breakdown. =p
Well, the graphical context argument is obvious. I just gave you the verbal context argument. And I gave you an example of where Kaenjin is used elsewhere (in a Japanese game), and it is used as a technique that creates a giant ring of fire, which is pretty much what Tobi just did. And I also looked up Kaen in japanese, and it means fire.
[3:33:17 PM] K [Kuzami]: I'm still trying to confirm "jin"

 

[The Rogue Ninja]

So, absorption and dematerialization are one and the same technique. When becoming intangible, Tobi is merely transfering his physical body to the Sharingan's dimension, whereas his consciousness remains in the real world. By sending things into Kakashi's dimension, which is seemingly the same as Tobi's, they attack his physical form, there. Interesting. So in essence, the technique poses a great risk to Kakashi is the key to defeat Tobi. It's not really hard to predict what whill the conclusion will be.

Uchiha Kaenjin seems.. well, seems overpowered.

The rest of the chapter wasn't really worth mentioning. Seeing Tobi being hurt is a nice change, and something we only saw once, yet. What I wonder the most, however, is what happens to Tobi's arm(s) now. The last time he was hit with a Rasengan, his left arm began to liquefy.

I agree with this ^^, and I really like this weeks chapter. About his arm not liquefying this time, maybe it's some kind of body replacement or something. Who knows though, I just can't wait till next week xd.

 

[HokageTobiramaXx]

Patiently waits fo r when Tobi is r evealed to see the f ace on everybody ...xd

People forget the face will probably be someone we know very well...He's not gonna unmask himself so everybody goes like "wtf, who the **** is this noob"...He will show his face and it will be a distinguishable face...