[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 596 Discussion and 597 Predictions

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ARandomBlackKid

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You are saying chill when you are the one who seems mad....:flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw: We have no clue who Tobi is Possibly somebody named "Uchiha Kaenjin" So no history on him but was originally thought of a s a Jutsu. All possibilities are open for those who have a motive to want to take over the world.
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ood lulz if Tobi's plan works but nobody looks at the moon and doesn't get tskuyomied [[_ ( [])[[_ Anyways just calm down anything is possible due to us knowing nothing currently
 

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What does Kamui have to do with Obito? From what I thought, it was a eye technique that Kakashi developed himself when he unlocked his Mangekyou. Tobi uses a S/T jutsu that ends up going to the same dimension as Kamui. Maybe all S/T jutsus go to the same dimension. There is no evidence that Tobi is Obito's father. Chill!
I agree completely, similar but not the same, atleast not yet. It's possible that Uchiha Kaenjin took Obito's other sharingan and learned how to master it, but no evidence to support that as of now.
 

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No because he was thinking of his name after saying " Don't underestimate me" not actually saying it out loud, hints the different text color.
Its odd, he's shouting "Don't underestimate me" and suddenly he whispers "Kaenjin". That's very strange. I think the text colour was changed so as to hint it's a jutsu.
 

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Its odd, he's shouting "Don't underestimate me" and suddenly he whispers "Kaenjin". That's very strange. I think the text colour was changed so as to hint it's a jutsu.
Why would a jutsu be named after somebody basically he did say Kaenjin but he said Uchiha also so basically it was like him saying Kaenjin Uchiha the change of text was to probably show it being a name. You guys are practically told the name but you refuse to believe the possibility of an introduction of a new character who is tied to Madara maybe a right hand man next to Izuna who helped pull the strings from the other side in the war and gave nagato his rinnegan. Please be open minded so you don't dismiss names or such huge clues. The possibility it being a technique is very slim but it is possible.
 

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Like I said before, I've read this manga for a long time and have heard alot of jutsu's come and go, but never have I heard of a Jutsu that has a first and last name or even rarely if ever a Jutsu that consist of 2 words.

Kishimoto gave u the masked mans name, be thankful and accept it for what it is.
 

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Why would a jutsu be named after somebody basically he did say Kaenjin but he said Uchiha also so basically it was like him saying Kaenjin Uchiha the change of text was to probably show it being a name. You guys are practically told the name but you refuse to believe the possibility of an introduction of a new character who is tied to Madara maybe a right hand man next to Izuna who helped pull the strings from the other side in the war and gave nagato his rinnegan. Please be open minded so you don't dismiss names or such huge clues. The possibility it being a technique is very slim but it is possible.
If what you are saying is true then half of tobi's identity is already revealed as we know he is some Uchiha kaenjin.

If there can be uzumaki rendan then why can't there be Uchiha kaenjin.
 

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I'm a firm believer that it is the elder son the SOSP, but thats also just a theory at this point, but he is one of the few(Maybe only Uchiha that we don't know his name)Uchihas that could possess the knowledge that predates everyone elses, and also that would have a grudge against the ninja world considering he originally believed that it was his to inherit.
 

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Keanjin
Tobi
After manifesting small flames on each finger of one hand, the user then slams their palm
on the ground, resulting in the creation of a cylindrical barrier enveloping a location of their choosing, protecting anything contained within and setting ablaze whatever comes into contact with the barrier's exterior

But when he says "Don't Underestimate me" he yells Keanjin Uchiha in a text that could possib
l y be a Jutsu or a name you can't just say Oh hahaa stupid its a Jutsu because it also resembles the possibilities of being a name so you can't just dismiss one or the other but more of accepting both and considering all possibilities.
 

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Where does it say anywhere that Uchiha Kaenjin that means fire barrier?

Dont forget the Uchiha part, Ive noticed people are leaving that out as if it wasnt said before Kaenjin.
To be dead on exact from Naruto Wiki This does
Uchiha Flame Battle Encampment Edit with form
Uchiha Flame Battle Encampment

Name
Kanji うちは火炎陣
Rōmaji Uchiha Kaenjin

Literal English Uchiha Flame Battle Encampment
Debut
Manga Chapter #596
Appears in Manga only
Data
Classification Ninjutsu, Barrier Ninjutsu
Class Supplementary
Range Long-range
[hide] Users
Tobi[/hide]
[hide]
After manifesting small flames on each finger of one hand, the user then slams their palm on the ground, resulting in the creation of a cylindrical barrier enveloping a location of their choosing, protecting anything contained within and setting ablaze whatever comes into contact with the barr
ier's exterior.
But I still hold on to the possibility it can be the name.[/hide]
 

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Alright after lurking for a very long time I'm finally going to make my first post/theory :p.. Don't hate k? This is just my theory just ive been breaking down on tobi..like everyone else XD

First off i just want to point out some things about the Second Hokage, Tobirama Senju. Like the First he is directly related to the Sage. Obviously he has all of the knowledge of the past and is a genius. It was stated that he was practicing Space/Time Jutsu, like Tobi/Minato, but he never mastered it the way they did.

In the manga where he died we are introduced to Kagami Uchiha, who i assume was one of his students. As some people have stated he can possibly be Obitos father, but thats more assumptions. However, since he was trained by Tobirama I believe he has some basic understanding behind Space/Time Jutsu, Kagami (Who I believe to be Tobi) named his son in honor of his teacher, and his own Alias after him. He mastered what his master could not and he tried to teach his son some of it, or perhaps Obito saw his father practicing it and that is how he unlocked the ability to use Kamui, to which Kakashi now has. It can also explain why they share the same dimension

Kagami, who again i am assuming is Obitos father,and also directly related to Madara, would want revenge on the leaf for his only sons death, especially on Kakashi for not only letting his son die but also taking the eye of his son with the jutsu he mastered and his son witnessed, thus also possibly being a threat. Not to mention all his quotes of spite directly related to Kakashi it feels like Tobi hates him the most. Rin could possibly have seen what he was plotting and he silenced her as well as being a passive aggresive ******* on Kakkashi by eliminating the person he cared deeply for. He is also in the range to have known Madara and fight Minato, unlike Obito, and would want revenge directly on Minato for also not protecting his son.

Kakashi can use the Kamui because Obito had begin to unlock after witnessing his father practicing it and he had practiced it some.

In short Tobirama started to teach Kagami, who Kagami started to teach to Obito but he was killed and his sharingan was passed to Kakashi, which explains why Kakashi's sharingan can also use the Kamui.

There are some loops holes in this..such as assumptions and since Madara "died" before obito was born I am unsure as to how Kagami and he would have made their plans with Nagato's revival, unless there were more people involved such as Izuna still lurking around..Idk i have a lot of crazy theories :p
 

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The only reason that I'm persistent in believing his name is Uchiha Kaenjin over the fact that it is a Jutsu is because of the context that it was written.

Dont underestimate me Uchiha Kaenjin, how much clearer can u get.
 

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Read my post..



I said it was more his intelligence than his sharingan, not all one or the other. And I stated as well one is irrelevant without the other.

Shinra Tensei has a 5 second interval you're conveniently forgetting. An interval that Kakashi knows far too well. Rinnegan isn't saving Tobi either, Kakashi knows the ins and outs of every one of it's abilities.
Naruto also knows this in and out. also i love how well naruto and Kakshi and Gai work together. Its not a surprise since kakashi has been working with and watching naruto since he became a genin and he is eternal rivals with gai and they have been fighting as comrads since they were kids.
 
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