[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 510 Discussion/ 511 Predictions

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epic chapter its crazy Madara can use izanagi and not lose his eye thats ganna be hard to beat
He lost his eye, Give up on Madara can use izanagi without draw back, or even, with only minor draw back.

He has a wide range of sharingans, 63 at the least shown when he gave itachi's eyes to sasuke. yes I'm geek enough to count, and noticed the 2 empty jars.

Tobi (Madara) having perfect Izanagi doesn't have anything to do with the 1st himself, it has to do with Hashirama (1st hokage) being from the Senju Clan. He obtained his power (whatever that means, I haven't seen him use wood element yet) and was able to use Izanagi.

Danzou used Izanagi, but he didn't have control of the senju power in him. The 1st's cells went wild and ultimately danzo lost his right arm because of it.

I am sad about Konan, I wonder though, if she managed to get word out about tobi(madara)'s abilities.
 
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I know it's not Sasuke is part of the Madara's SOSP plan. It's Danzo or Kakashi.

sasuke is most likely apart of it..y did u think he pushed him so much to get stronger n take itachi's eye..sasuke gaining the ems along with the rinnegan will trigger a stronger rinnegan thus making him one of the paths. As for kakashi n danzo there not even uchiha blood or even a decendant in anyway..
 

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My bad...

Although this did get me thinking bout Itachi's gift now...
Madara just stated that his fight with Hashi was to obtain some of his power ..
Itachi gave Naruto some of his power ..
The Uzamaki clan is a close relative of the Senju clan.. Nagato who had rinnegan was an Uzamaki (now?!).. Madara obtained Senju power, And Naruto still has some Uchiha power (so far known only to Naruto) from Itachi
I am not implying that Naruto will be able to use sharingan techs like Izanagi, but perhaps Itachi knew more about Madara than Madara thought and has set Naruto up to be on more equal terms with Madara, somehow knowing that combining the 2 bloodlines (powers) a more complete being will evolve.
IDK just babbling..
you may have been just "babbling" but that is ok...you may be on to something...Itachi knew alot more about Madara than he admitted to...also he had read the hidden documents in the Uchiha Hideout....its also quite possible that he figured out some of the things Nagato did...if so then maybe that is why he gave Naruto something to help fight off the effect Madara would have on Sauske. who knows how this will all come together down the road.
 

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That much is very clear, for him to leave so many plot lines open for such a long period of time before completing them proves that he has them all well thought out already. To keep them all straight and complete so many in such a shocking and profound matter is quite a feat.

Clearly, kishi is just telling a seemingly never-ending story that he has devised for a very long time. There is no way he could come up with this stuff and finalize it so well week in and week consistently. It's connected far too well to be devised in that way.

Never ending is correct...didnt this start in 1999??? thats already been 10 years...
 

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Madara's body is now is like Zetsu. Did u see the blackside of Zetsu fighting? Guess we're all not.
Your over-thinking it, I said in a previous post that I thought Kishi made the left half of Madara's face black to show us his left sharingan without actually revealing anymore of his face. It has no meaning at all, just that we have to wait longer to see his whole face.

And BTW, your grammer is so bad I can barely tell what ur saying half the time:flaw:
 

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sasuke is most likely apart of it..y did u think he pushed him so much to get stronger n take itachi's eye..sasuke gaining the ems along with the rinnegan will trigger a stronger rinnegan thus making him one of the paths. As for kakashi n danzo there not even uchiha blood or even a decendant in anyway..
In my prediction Sasuke is not part of it coz kishi wants him to feel inferiority to Naruto and blaming himself for what he did.. Besides he already fulfill he's only dream to kill he's older brother.. I bet it's KAKASHI!
 

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Your over-thinking it, I said in a previous post that I thought Kishi made the left half of Madara's face black to show us his left sharingan without actually revealing anymore of his face. It has no meaning at all, just that we have to wait longer to see his whole face.

And BTW, your grammer is so bad I can barely tell what ur saying half the time:flaw:
How about u dude? Do u know how to spell "GRAMMAR"? It's typological error.. Correct ur self first before correcting others..
 

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I think its so funny how we find out Madara can also use all of the first's abilities, when all we've seen him do is go intangible and transport himself/others into another dimension. I'm still really interested in his original MS sharingan powers and those he gained from his brother once he obtained the EMS.

It seems we will have to wait until the current status of Madara is fully revealed to find out and see if he will ever be able to use those abilities before he becomes all 6 paths in one.
 

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Awesome chapter!!

So nagato was purely a descendant of the senju clan and madara quoted he gave nagato the rinnegan, So i guess that means madara gave nagato some of his powers so he could unlock the rinnegan.
I have a little theory tho..

So two mangekyou sharingans = the ems.
I'm assuming 3 paths = uchiha + senju + rinnegan. (thats half the way there)
what if the same principle applies with the so6p's rinnegan as the sharingan
madara needs two halves of 6 paths to become complete, madara now being 1 half and sasuke or naruto becoming the other paths (implying madara has another rinnegan hidden somewhere) then he combines the eyes like he did to unlock EMS, and gain the completed rinnegan and the full power of the so6p.

Crazyy i kno lol
 

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Awesome chapter!!

So nagato was purely a descendant of the senju clan and madara quoted he gave nagato the rinnegan, So i guess that means madara gave nagato some of his powers so he could unlock the rinnegan.
I have a little theory tho..

So two mangekyou sharingans = the ems.
I'm assuming 3 paths = uchiha + senju + rinnegan. (thats half the way there)
what if the same principle applies with the so6p's rinnegan as the sharingan
madara needs two halves of 6 paths to become complete, madara now being 1 half and sasuke or naruto becoming the other paths (implying madara has another rinnegan hidden somewhere) then he combines the eyes like he did to unlock EMS, and gain the completed rinnegan and the full power of the so6p.

Crazyy i kno lol
Interesting theory, but assuming your saying uchiha would be the same as sharingan, than what are the rest of the paths?

1. Uchiha (sharingan)
2. Senju
3. Rinnegan
4. Byakugan (maybe?)
5. ??
6. ??

I think the earlier posts are more likely, the individual paths being individuals with either uchiha or senju lineage.
 

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Direct from Narutopedia:

Rinnegan
The Sage(SOSP-) Rikudō Sennin was said to have been the only shinobi to have fully mastered the Rinnegan, allowing him to manipulate all six types of nature chakra. He is revered as one of the most legendary figures in the Naruto universe, and is most likely the most powerful ninja that ever existed. He was so powerful that he created the moon using Chibaku Tensei. Even Nagato stated that his power paled in comparison to that of the Sage.

Other important facts...

Facts about Sage of the Six Paths
Appears in Anime +, and Manga +

Chakra Nature=
Fire Release +,
Wind Release +,
Lightning Release +,
Earth Release +,
Water Release +,
and Yin and Yang +


Classification Jinchūriki +, and Sage

Ok NOW THAT WE ARE ALL CLEAR ON THIS...IT APPEARS THAT SAGE OF THE SIX PATHS IS AN ABILITY OF A PERSON TO CONTROL ALL OF THE ABOVE CHAKRA NATURES AND AS YOU NOTED ITS ONLY POSSIBLE BECAUSE HE HAD "FULLY MASTERED" THE RINNEGAN.

ACCORDING TO WHAT THIS CHAPTER HAS JUST TOLD us MADARA IS SAYING THE ONLY TYPE OF PERSON WHO COULD "FULLY MASTER" THE RINNEGAN IS SOMEONE WITH BOTH SENJU & UCHIHA BLOODLINES OR IN HIS CASE their POWER!

WHAT THIS SHOULD MEAN IS THAT NARUTO, ITACHI, ETC COULD NOT BE 1ST, 2ND 3RD SAGE OF SIX PATHS SINCE WE KNOW NON OF THEM FULLY MASTERED RINNEGAN NOR DID THEY HAVE ALL SIX CHAKRA NATURES UNDER THEIR CONTROL, NOR DO ANY OF THEM HAVE BOTH BLOODLINES OF SENJU OR UCHIHA! SO THAT LEADS ME TO CONCLUDE THE FOLLOWING AS TO MADARA'S ACTIONS:

1) he spoke of obtaining the 1st hokages powers (senju clan) because only someone with both senju & uchiha blood in one person could mangage all of the following things...

2)RINNEGAN= Nagato is the third sage of the six paths only because he possessed the rinnegan, which is THE third thing Madara needs to acheive his purpose!

3) Next he must be able to master all six of the nature chakras, we know that uchiha's are already known for Fire release techniques so he has that one already.

So the question is what other Chakra natures does MADARA already possess?

Will he have to steal other charkra nature abilities or Will he be able to simply utilize the 7 tailed beast charkras (that they already stole & extracted from hosts) to simulate the nature chakras he does not already have?

Hopefully by now you all see the pattern of what Madara is trying to do to make himself SOSP, but my question is who in the Narutoverse is ultimate Earth release ninja (in their bloodline) and what ninja has control over YING & YANG which is the SIXTH (6TH) CHAKRA NATURE???? WHO has already shown themselves to be Earth element users that not already dead (ie 3rd Hokage)? Who has already shown themselves to be YING/Yang masters? What does that even mean?

I suppose I could be off base somewhat but I dont think I off that far from what may actually happen....just throwing this out there for comments etc.

Last but not least....why is NAGATO'S BODY NOT BURIED IN THE DAM GROUND LIKE A NORMAL CORPSE AND EXCUSE ME BUT WHY HAS IT NOT ROTTEN/DECAYED LIKE ANY OTHER NORMAL CORPSE BY NOW....COME ON!!!!! AND WHAT?! SHE COULDNT CLOSE THOSE EYES???? JUST CREEPY!
 
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Yea was a bit hard to explain
I was following how the sharingan upgrades
You have two sharingans, those two evolve to MS, then u combine those 2 MS
to get the EMS, A complete sharingan.

now nagato's rinnegan wasn't a complete rinnegan like the so6p's

so we if try to follow the same rule for the rinnegan as the sharingan it has a similar way to upgrade

Madara currently has the powers of an uchiha, senju and now rinnegan (3 paths).
This could possibly make an evolved rinnegan like that of the so6p's older son,
but its still not a complete rinnegan.

Ok so the theory is that madara needs someone else to unlock 3 paths,such as naruto, sasuke and?? (assuming madara has another rinnegan) so he can take there powers,
Thus making a complete rinnegan.

Hope this makes sense lol =S

So the sharingan has 3 lvls. and the rinnegan has 3 lvls
 
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