Naruto Manga 400 - Spoilers/Predictions

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madara

now if i can remember
i remember reading something about madara which said that he was the cause of the nine tails attacking konoha, it was because of him why the nine tails attacked. Also if i can remember in shippuuden when the nine-tails says to sasuke he has never seen as so sinister since uchiha madara, obviously at the time sasuke didnt no what da hell he was talking about... as far as im concerned madara had a major part in the attack

i remember reading something that said that madara was the reason the nine-tails attacked konoha, he manipulated it and he was able to control it, so he sent it to attack konohan for revenge. Also i can remember in shippuuden that the nine-tails said to sasuke that he has never seen eyes as sinister since uchiha madara obviously at the time sasuke didnt no who he was... So personally i think madara is talking only half truth to sasuke
 
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it is in japanese
From 2ch

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ナルト達の前に立ちふさがるペイン

弥彦ペイン「殺しはしない。お前を連れていくのがマダラの命令だ」
ナルト「黙って連れていかれるか!」
弥彦ペインに突っ込むナルト
突然、しげみの中から異様に長い手がナルトを突き飛ばす
???「お前みたいな奴をマダラは気に入るかもな」
現れた男はナルトの二倍はある身長に地面に付く程長い手、長い足の男だった
弥彦ペイン「来ていたのか‥長門」
長門「俺はマダラに近ずく男を、こうやって影から葬ってきた‥
おかげでこの通り両手が異常に伸びてしまった‥
なぜだか分かるか‥俺はマダラを愛しているからだー!!!」
弥彦ペイン「お前の気持ちなどみんな気づいているよ‥もちろんマダラもな」
長門「ウヒヒヒ知ってるか‥男でも子供が作れるんだぞ‥
腹の横に子供を作るスペースがあるんだ‥
俺はマダラと子供を作る!
ドロドロになるまで愛し合うんだー!!」
ナルト「‥男どうしでも子供が出来るのか‥」
ヒナタ「ナルト君しっかりして!嘘に決まってるわ!」
ドカッッッ!!!
ヒナタの首に長門の長い足がめり込む
長門「死にたくなかったら消えな‥て先に蹴っちまった‥死んだか?」
ヒナタ「とてもとても愛して止まない時って、なんて言えばいいのかしら‥
やっぱり愛してるの一言よね‥」
長門「‥あぁ‥その通りだ‥」
 

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About Madara's plan

I do agree in that Madara's plan was to convert Sasuke to the 'Dark' side. This guy has a thirst for power and will do anything in order to achieve it: kill his own clan, blame others for his deeds (honestly, if the Kyubi itself tells Sasuke he has the same eyes as Madara, it means that Madara had either controlled or summoned the 9 tailed fox), make Sasuke try to revenge another clan when the only problem was that Madara prefers war to peace. I tend to think that Madara, in order to be terribly powerful, wants to have the fox inside Naruto and will try to turn Sasuke against him. PRIDE: the main Uchiha problem that affects everyone who meets them.

I find it difficult to believe that Madara's brother agreed to be taken the eyes away, that was not what Itachi told Sasuke. I do hope Sasuke asks him questions or does not listen to him instead of believing in what Madara says.

Hope chapter 400 will at least answer one of this questions (I got used not to be told everything in just one chapter :)
 

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I found this on another forum:

Originally Posted by Posted by TDA Translated by PocketMofo

クーデターは九尾でやろうとしてたうちは一族はナルトが必要
The Uchiha clan, wanting to use the Kyuubi in a coup d’etat against the village, needed Naruto.

でも三代目がナルトを監視してたから(水晶で見てる)
But the Third Hokage kept an eye out on Naruto (using his crystal ball)

一族が強行手段に出るのは難儀でフガクはイタチを暗部に送ってナルトの監視役にさせようとした
The clan knew that taking Naruto by force would be difficult so Fugaku decided to send Itachi to work in the Anbu and spy on Naruto.

でも先に行動に出たのは上層部の3人でイタチに一族がクーデター起こそうとしてると話す
But the three top officials (The two people always with the Third and Danzou) got to Itachi first and told him of the clan’s plan to overthrow the Leaf.

九尾事件で子供のイタチがミコトに庇われて九尾を見てる回想九尾
Itachi has a little flashback of when he was a kid and the Kyuubi attacked (him being protected by his mother, Mikoto)

「イタチはあれを天災じゃないと聞かされて信じ込んだ 最期まで信じていたようだ」「あの時天才以外に九尾を呼べるのはオレしかいなかった」「オレが イタチに嫌わ れている原因のひとつだった」 ."
Madara: Itachi was told that the Kyuubi attack was no natural disaster and believed it. It seems he believed it up until the very end. Back then the only person apart from a genius who could have called forth the Kyuubi was me. That’s one of the reasons Itachi hated me.

サスケ「お前とイタチはいつから繋がった」
Sasuke: So when did you and Itachi meet/join forces/etc.?

マダラ「それは後々話そう…ただ」「お前がイタチを兄と慕っていた時間より長いとだけ言ってお く」
Madara: That conversation can wait till later…However, I will say now that we knew each other longer than you thought of him as your beloved older brother.

サスケ「…」
Sasuke: …

以下マダラ会話
*From here on it’s just more of Madara talking

イタチには考える時間が与えられた
Itachi was given some time to think.

イタチは悩んだ…一族を皆殺しにするという事はサスケ、もちろんお前もその対象に入っていた
Itachi was troubled…killing his entire clan would mean that Sasuke…of course you (Sasuke) would have been included.

だが板挟みになって身動きが取れなくなっていたイタチを決意させる決定的な出来事が二つ起こる
But for Itachi, whose dilemma had left him unable to act at all, two things occurred which would help him make his decision.

ひとつはシスイ殺しの疑いをかけられた事だ
The first was the suspicion put on him that he had murdered Shisui.

強い憎しみからイタチは万華鏡写輪眼を開眼した
Itachi awoke the Mangekyou Sharingan from an intense hatred.

サスケ回想「あの時…!」
Sasuke flashback: That time…!

だがそれはフガクが仕向けた事だった. 九尾を操るには万華鏡写輪眼が必要だ
But that was what Fugaku had manipulated him into. The Mangekyou Sharingan was necessary in order to control the Kyuubi.

イタチの様子がおかしいと感付いていたフガクは可能性があったイタチに万華鏡を開眼させること でイタチを一 族に縛りつけようとした
Fugaku, sensing that Itachi was acting strangely, decided to awaken the Mangekyou Sharingan in Itachi, as he had the possibility of attaining it, and using this to tie Itachi to the clan.

サスケ「父さんが…」
Sasuke: Father…

そしてもうひとつは里の上層部からお前の命を引き合いに出された事だ
The other thing that happened was that three higher ups threw your (Sasuke’s) life into the mix.

じいさんばあさんがクーデターが起きたら関係ない人が死ぬ恐れもあるし
The old man and lady thought that were the coup d’etat to happen that many people unrelated to the happenings might die.

どっちみち一族も殺すことになるから
If either way the clan is going to be killed

サスケだけでも助けたくないかと言われてうなずくイタチで終
Then wouldn’t Itachi want to at least save Sasuke? The chapter ends with Itachi nodding yes.
 
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friends! i have a few questions.
1.why isn't naruto told he is the son of 4th hokage?
2.where is naruto's mother (not much told whether she is dead or alive)
3.the 3rd hokage had a crystal ball(shown in the anime) why didn't he used it to trace orochimaru and other threats to konoha?
 

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friends! i have a few questions.
1.why isn't naruto told he is the son of 4th hokage?
2.where is naruto's mother (not much told whether she is dead or alive)
3.the 3rd hokage had a crystal ball(shown in the anime) why didn't he used it to trace orochimaru and other threats to konoha?
1- dont know why .. but i think that they dont want 2 tell naruto that his own father who sealed the kyuubi in him
2-i think she died when naruto born . as gaara's mother
3- i think that crystal ball have range.. 2 show what inside of konoha only..we saw the 3rd using it 2 see what is happening in konoha not what is out of it
 

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Good answer Sasuke.

I think Naruto was not allowed to know that his father is the 4. The 3rd made a rule that nobody may tell Naruto that the 4th sealed the demon fox in him. And I think he have done that to make sure that Naruto becomes old enough to understand why his father have done that, before they would tell him. Other whys Naruto might Hate his father for what have happened. Come on, if you are 11 and you must find out your dad sealed a demon fox in you, and that is why everybody hates you, of course you'll be pissed at your father!!!
 

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This is still weird, Shodaime , this text is neither informotive , nor exciting
hm, I believe this chapter will concern Itachi in other way : about why did he REALLY killed his clan ( his intentions were bad - he quartered Sasuke only cuz of his eyes ) perhaps, madara will introduce that in other way...
 

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イタチは暗部にスパイの為に入ったが里側に情報を流した二重スパイだった
Itachi was a spy (from Uchiha) to ANBU, but he leaked (Uchiha?s) information to the village side. He was a double spy.

イタチは4才で戦争を経験しているから里の安定を第一に考えていた
Itachi experienced a war at his age 4, so he thought the village?s safety was the most important.

だから仕方なくうちは抹殺をした
So he killed Uchiha clan. He had no choice.

三代目は和解をしようとしたが間に合わずあの夜へと
The third Hokage tried to reconcile, but it was late. And the night came.

抜け忍になるのも指令の一つだった
To be a rogue Ninja was a part of the order.

だがイタチは一つ失敗をした
But Itachi made one mistake.

弟を殺せなかった
He couldn?t kill his brother.

サスケをまもるように三代目に頼みサスケに手を出さないようダンゾウを脅して里を抜けた
He asked the third to protect Sasuke and threatened Danzou not to lay a hand on Sasuke and he left village.

イタチは初めからサスケに力を与え死ぬつもりだったらしい
Itachi planed to give his power to Sasuke and die from the first.
 

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イタチは暗部にスパイの為に入ったが里側に情報を流した二重スパイだった
Itachi was a spy (from Uchiha) to ANBU, but he leaked (Uchiha?s) information to the village side. He was a double spy.

イタチは4才で戦争を経験しているから里の安定を第一に考えていた
Itachi experienced a war at his age 4, so he thought the village?s safety was the most important.

だから仕方なくうちは抹殺をした
So he killed Uchiha clan. He had no choice.

三代目は和解をしようとしたが間に合わずあの夜へと
The third Hokage tried to reconcile, but it was late. And the night came.

抜け忍になるのも指令の一つだった
To be a rogue Ninja was a part of the order.

だがイタチは一つ失敗をした
But Itachi made one mistake.

弟を殺せなかった
He couldn?t kill his brother.

サスケをまもるように三代目に頼みサスケに手を出さないようダンゾウを脅して里を抜けた
He asked the third to protect Sasuke and threatened Danzou not to lay a hand on Sasuke and he left village.

イタチは初めからサスケに力を与え死ぬつもりだったらしい
Itachi planed to give his power to Sasuke and die from the first.
i wonder what sasuke `ll do after he hear thats..
R.I.P Itachi.. we all liked u T_T
ah but there is something i wanna know,. why he joined akatsuki..
 

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奴はすべて覚悟の上で任務を遂行した
he accept the mission with complete resolution

自己犠牲? それがヤツの務めだった
self sacrifice...that was his mission

木の葉は「里」を安定させる為に大きな芝居をうった
その主役がイタチ
the main actor was itachi

かつて対立していた「うちは」を監視し
the observation of 'uchiha' by him

同時に里を安定させる為に仕組んだ
うちは頭首も息子のイタチにだけは気を許す
うちはと木の葉とを融和させるのが彼の最大の任務
木の葉とうちはの融和はうまくいっていた
ただ 思いもしない事態が起こった

but, something unexpected occured

かつて木の葉へと不審を募らせていたものが九尾を封印された赤子ごと奪おうとしたのだ
その計画は失敗に終わった
だがうちはは木の葉から隔離を求められた
そしてその対応にうちは一族は再びクーデターを企み、それはもうイタチにも止めようもないもの だった
「里」の安定という当初の計画を中止する事もできない
任務のシナリオは大きく加筆修正させられた
里を安定させる為にうちは滅ぼされなければならない?

in order to stabelize konoha the uchiha were destroyed

そしてうちは一族皆殺しは木の葉とは無関係だとする為に
その実行犯であるイタチもまた殺害されなくてはならない
同じ汚れたうちはの生き残り
自らの弟の手によって
公に―――――
そして後々まで記録されなけれいけない
それが穏便にすませる最善の策だと結論された
生還は許されなかった
自害も許されない
お前に?
愛した弟によって命を絶たれる?
それが木の葉の望んだ遂行されなくてはならない?
イタチに課せられた任務

the mission that itachi completed

おまえに殺される事が?
to be killed by you

イタチに与えられた責務だった
was itachi's mission

木の葉の為に一族に背く、常人なら到底耐えられない重荷
イタチは―――――
汚名を着せられたまま葬られる 
後の世紀までイタチは語り継がれる
木の葉には恥知らずの抜け忍として?
他里では一族を皆殺しにした凶人として?
忍びの世界史に犯罪者のして永遠に記録される
誰にも理解されないまま?
それが?
イタチの最後の任務

itachi's final mission

イタチは見事に任務を全うした
だが、お前だけには伝えたかったのだろうな
お前の記憶の中には、?残りたかったんだろう
忍びとしてではなく 兄として
だが、自分の口から伝える事は禁じられていた
それでイタチは暁の仲でも信頼できる者に真実を・・・
だが、俺の責任もある
俺の口から真実を話したかった

サスケ、これは歴史には記録されない、誰にも伝えられる事のない
お前の心だけに残すイタチの―
              ――帰還報告だ
全ては里の為木の葉の為、名誉も命も捧げた
   イタチこそが英雄だ
   イタチこそが
   真の―――

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He (Itachi) accepted his fate as he embarked on his mission.
To sacrifice himself...this was his mission.

In order to have stability in the "village", Konoha put up a false image.
The person with the leading role was Itachi.
To observe/supervise the movements of the ex-rivals, the Uchihas, and at the same time arranged to ensure the stability of the village.
The head of the Uchiha clan only let his guard down in front of his son, Itachi.
His (Itachi's) biggest mission was to ensure the harmony between Uchiha and Konoha.
Konoha and Uchiha can be said to be on good terms.
However, an unthinkable incident took place.
A mystery hanged in the past in Konoha of which someone tried to kidnap the baby in which Kyuubi was sealed.
However, the plan ended in failure.
However, the Uchihas requested to be segregated from Konoha.
In response to that, it seemed that the Uchiha clan once again was plotting a coup d'etat, and even Itachi could not stop them.
Neither could he abort the initial plan to ensure stability in the "village".
The mission's scenario was greatly changed.
To ensure the peace in the village, Uchiha clan must be destroyed...
Then, to make sure that the responsibility for the massacre of the Uchiha clan did not fall into Konoha's hands, the actual murderer Itachi, could not be killed either.
Tainted by the fate of the survival of the Uchiha's blood, he placed this matter into his own younger brother's hands

To the outsiders...
What follows after that must be recorded
It's concluded to be the best plan to ensure that peace prevails thereafter.
Not allowed to survive.
Suicide is not an option
You have to...
let the brother that you love end your life...
This is what Konoha wants and it must be carried out no matter what...
The mission that was imposed on Itachi
was to be killed by you...
This was the mission that Itachi was given.
For the sake of Konoha, he went against his clan and carried a burden that would crush normal people.

Itachi carries a stain in his name till the day he dies.
The future generation will continue to speak of Itachi
in Konoha, he will be known as a missing nin who knew not shame...
in other villages, a murderer who killed his clan...
he will forever be recorded in the Shinobi world as a criminal
he will not be understood by anyone...

This was...
Itachi's final mission
Itachi carried out his missions flawlessly.
However, he wanted to tell this to you only it seems
In your memories...he wanted to remain in your memories
not as a ninja, but as an elder brother
However, he was not allowed to tell you this from his own words
Even his most trusted peers in the Akatsuki (were not told)...
However, I have a responsibility
I spoke of the truth.

Sasuke, this is not recorded in history and this has never been told to anyone. This is the Itachi that remains in your heart...
... a return report

Everything for the sake of Konoha, throwing away his reputation and life
Hence, Itachi is a hero
Itachi is truly....
 
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奴はすべて覚悟の上で任務を遂行した
he accept the mission with complete resolution

自己犠牲? それがヤツの務めだった
self sacrifice...that was his mission

木の葉は「里」を安定させる為に大きな芝居をうった
その主役がイタチ
the main actor was itachi

かつて対立していた「うちは」を監視し
the observation of 'uchiha' by him

同時に里を安定させる為に仕組んだ
うちは頭首も息子のイタチにだけは気を許す
うちはと木の葉とを融和させるのが彼の最大の任務
木の葉とうちはの融和はうまくいっていた
ただ 思いもしない事態が起こった

but, something unexpected occured

かつて木の葉へと不審を募らせていたものが九尾を封印された赤子ごと奪おうとしたのだ
その計画は失敗に終わった
だがうちはは木の葉から隔離を求められた
そしてその対応にうちは一族は再びクーデターを企み、それはもうイタチにも止めようもないもの だった
「里」の安定という当初の計画を中止する事もできない
任務のシナリオは大きく加筆修正させられた
里を安定させる為にうちは滅ぼされなければならない?

in order to stabelize konoha the uchiha were destroyed

そしてうちは一族皆殺しは木の葉とは無関係だとする為に
その実行犯であるイタチもまた殺害されなくてはならない
同じ汚れたうちはの生き残り
自らの弟の手によって
公に―――――
そして後々まで記録されなけれいけない
それが穏便にすませる最善の策だと結論された
生還は許されなかった
自害も許されない
お前に?
愛した弟によって命を絶たれる?
それが木の葉の望んだ遂行されなくてはならない?
イタチに課せられた任務

the mission that itachi completed

おまえに殺される事が?
to be killed by you

イタチに与えられた責務だった
was itachi's mission

木の葉の為に一族に背く、常人なら到底耐えられない重荷
イタチは―――――
汚名を着せられたまま葬られる 
後の世紀までイタチは語り継がれる
木の葉には恥知らずの抜け忍として?
他里では一族を皆殺しにした凶人として?
忍びの世界史に犯罪者のして永遠に記録される
誰にも理解されないまま?
それが?
イタチの最後の任務

itachi's final mission

イタチは見事に任務を全うした
だが、お前だけには伝えたかったのだろうな
お前の記憶の中には、?残りたかったんだろう
忍びとしてではなく 兄として
だが、自分の口から伝える事は禁じられていた
それでイタチは暁の仲でも信頼できる者に真実を・・・
だが、俺の責任もある
俺の口から真実を話したかった

サスケ、これは歴史には記録されない、誰にも伝えられる事のない
お前の心だけに残すイタチの―
              ――帰還報告だ
全ては里の為木の葉の為、名誉も命も捧げた
   イタチこそが英雄だ
   イタチこそが
   真の―――

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He (Itachi) accepted his fate as he embarked on his mission.
To sacrifice himself...this was his mission.

In order to have stability in the "village", Konoha put up a false image.
The person with the leading role was Itachi.
To observe/supervise the movements of the ex-rivals, the Uchihas, and at the same time arranged to ensure the stability of the village.
The head of the Uchiha clan only let his guard down in front of his son, Itachi.
His (Itachi's) biggest mission was to ensure the harmony between Uchiha and Konoha.
Konoha and Uchiha can be said to be on good terms.
However, an unthinkable incident took place.
A mystery hanged in the past in Konoha of which someone tried to kidnap the baby in which Kyuubi was sealed.
However, the plan ended in failure.
However, the Uchihas requested to be segregated from Konoha.
In response to that, it seemed that the Uchiha clan once again was plotting a coup d'etat, and even Itachi could not stop them.
Neither could he abort the initial plan to ensure stability in the "village".
The mission's scenario was greatly changed.
To ensure the peace in the village, Uchiha clan must be destroyed...
Then, to make sure that the responsibility for the massacre of the Uchiha clan did not fall into Konoha's hands, the actual murderer Itachi, could not be killed either.
Tainted by the fate of the survival of the Uchiha's blood, he placed this matter into his own younger brother's hands

To the outsiders...
What follows after that must be recorded
It's concluded to be the best plan to ensure that peace prevails thereafter.
Not allowed to survive.
Suicide is not an option
You have to...
let the brother that you love end your life...
This is what Konoha wants and it must be carried out no matter what...
The mission that was imposed on Itachi
was to be killed by you...
This was the mission that Itachi was given.
For the sake of Konoha, he went against his clan and carried a burden that would crush normal people.

Itachi carries a stain in his name till the day he dies.
The future generation will continue to speak of Itachi
in Konoha, he will be known as a missing nin who knew not shame...
in other villages, a murderer who killed his clan...
he will forever be recorded in the Shinobi world as a criminal
he will not be understood by anyone...

This was...
Itachi's final mission
Itachi carried out his missions flawlessly.
However, he wanted to tell this to you only it seems
In your memories...he wanted to remain in your memories
not as a ninja, but as an elder brother
However, he was not allowed to tell you this from his own words
Even his most trusted peers in the Akatsuki (were not told)...
However, I have a responsibility
I spoke of the truth.

Sasuke, this is not recorded in history and this has never been told to anyone. This is the Itachi that remains in your heart...
... a return report

Everything for the sake of Konoha, throwing away his reputation and life
Hence, Itachi is a hero
Itachi is truly....
just a lil think is killing me
if itachi missions was 2 kill all the uchiha.. why madara helped him
and how itachi meet madara.. ?!
 
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