Naruto and Hashirama are cocky

[Liquid Snake]

I have arguments, several of them. It's just futile as hell to proceed in an argument with you, because your comprehension and understanding is pitiable.



Just because you can't see that far or broad doesn't make it a fanfic.

Hagoromo inherited his chakra directly and purely from Kaguya, who is essentially the Juubi. Which means Hagoromo's chakra is the Juubi's chakra and will be perfectly equal to the Juubi's chakra when fully matured. Since Sasuke received the Yin counterpart of Hagoromo's chakra i.e. Sage's chakra quality (proven by the fact that Naruto requires RSM of the same chakra plus BM to rival that), Sasuke's chakra when fully matured will also be equal to the Juubi's chakra in power. Fully matured Hagoromo's chakra will be superior to fully matured Sasuke's chakra using RSM though, but in base it'll be equal because Juubi's chakra is the strongest a chakra can get naturally.



Your lack of understanding doesn't mean my argument is baseless, incompetent moron.

So what argument do you have that sasuke could have absorbed the bijuus and beat naruto without naruto countering ? Actually i can say naruto could have had a couple clones stay with kakashi to gather ne then after the clash replenish his chakra to end sasuke u have no argument. Then u say somehow adult sasuke got the power he had with all bijuus lol and then naruto didn't get any Stronger even tho he got the other half of kurama lol just Stfu u have no argument

 

[Liquid Snake]

No it won't. All he recieved was Rinnegan, a Yin Seal(gone), and Six Paths chakra. He did not get a YOUNG version of yun chakra that needs to mature. He gave each the complete package. He will not grow to surpass the juubis power in chakra. Plus he is already 30 years old. His chakra isnt maturing anymore. All that needs maturing is honing of his Rinnegan like Kurama said. Had Sasuke a mastered Rinnegan at VOTE he would not have needed the bijuu.

Naruto and Sasuke are already in their primes thats why they intriduced the next generation. They are the same age as Maddy and Hashi at VOTE.

And Naruto needs all that because Sasuke has the doujutsu while Naruto has the body. Itachi is basically Sasukes kurama. Body=Eyes

By your logic Naruto should have chakra more powerful than Kaguya. Thats false and stupid.

Lol he's saying Hago gave sasuke power that matures but naruto got stagnant power and he also gave sasuke more sage chakra than naruto even though he said he entrusted everything to naruto lol that guys just a wanker

 

[The Demon Hawk]

No it won't.

It will.

All he recieved was Rinnegan, a Yin Seal(gone), and Six Paths chakra.

Yeah...

He did not get a YOUNG version of yun chakra that needs to mature. He gave each the complete package.

Tell that to The Last Sasuke who destroyed a meteor with Chidori, a feat he couldn't perform before. That's OBVIOUSLY due to chakra maturing.

He will not grow to surpass the juubis power in chakra.

He will, logically.

Plus he is already 30 years old. His chakra isnt maturing anymore.

Then that means his chakra is fully matured. Which means his PS is now equal to VOTE BPS (strongest PS possible).

All that needs maturing is honing of his Rinnegan like Kurama said.

LOL. You really believe after 12 years of its possession, Rinnegan still needs honing? LMAO!

Had Sasuke a mastered Rinnegan at VOTE he would not have needed the bijuu.

That would have done nothing. A mastered Rinnegan =/= more power. He would not be able to create BPS or execute Indra's Arrow even if he had a mastered Rinnegan because they depend on chakra power, not Rinnegan's control.

Naruto and Sasuke are already in their primes thats why they intriduced the next generation. They are the same age as Maddy and Hashi at VOTE.

Yes.

And Naruto needs all that because Sasuke has the doujutsu while Naruto has the body. Itachi is basically Sasukes kurama. Body=Eyes

Not really.

By your logic Naruto should have chakra more powerful than Kaguya. Thats false and stupid.

My logic doesn't even imply anything close to that.

So what argument do you have that sasuke could have absorbed the bijuus and beat naruto without naruto countering ? Actually i can say naruto could have had a couple clones stay with kakashi to gather ne then after the clash replenish his chakra to end sasuke u have no argument. Then u say somehow adult sasuke got the power he had with all bijuus lol and then naruto didn't get any Stronger even tho he got the other half of kurama lol just Stfu u have no argument

You're pathetic. Not even worth arguing, but I'll counter your post if it satisfies you.

Firstly, I was countering that guy's statement who said Naruto could have absorbed NE before. He was forgetting the fact that Sasuke could have also absorbed bijuus chakra earlier, not just Naruto. He was being ignorant just like you are (but he still can't beat you in sheer ignorance).

Even in the current scenario, Sasuke could have also launched Indra's Arrow earlier instead of playing taijutsu game with the clones while Naruto still wouldn't have gathered the NE to counter it. That's was a 10/10 neg in Sasuke's favor. Naruto was saved by plot.

Plus, Sasuke absorbing the bijuus' chakra is faster than Naruto absorbing NE. Had Sasuke not kicked down a clone and played the taijutsu game, Naruto wouldn't even have gathered the NE in time.

And that "stay with Kakashi and gather NE" argument is BS. By that logic, Sasuke could have also absorbed the bijuus' chakra MUCH earlier directly after he used Rinnegan genjutsu on the tailed beasts while Naruto would need to make clones, go RSM+BM, then gather NE and wouldn't have made it in time, and would definitely get obliterated by Indra's Arrow there and then along with all others. 10/10 neg.

And I never said Naruto didn't get stronger, retard.

Lol he's saying Hago gave sasuke power that matures but naruto got stagnant power and he also gave sasuke more sage chakra than naruto even though he said he entrusted everything to naruto lol that guys just a wanker

I never said Naruto got stagnant power. And I never said Sasuke has more chakra than Naruto. I don't know where you got this stuff, maybe pulled it outta your ass... This shows that your comprehension if f***ed up beyond repair. That's the reason why I don't argue with you...

 

[Liquid Snake]

It will.



Yeah...



Tell that to The Last Sasuke who destroyed a meteor with Chidori, a feat he couldn't perform before. That's OBVIOUSLY due to chakra maturing.



He will, logically.



Then that means his chakra is fully matured. Which means his PS is now equal to VOTE BPS (strongest PS possible).



LOL. You really believe after 12 years of its possession, Rinnegan still needs honing? LMAO!



That would have done nothing. A mastered Rinnegan =/= more power. He would not be able to create BPS or execute Indra's Arrow even if he had a mastered Rinnegan because they depend on chakra power, not Rinnegan's control.



Yes.



Not really.



My logic doesn't even imply anything close to that.



You're pathetic. Not even worth arguing, but I'll counter your post if it satisfies you.

Firstly, I was countering that guy's statement who said Naruto could have absorbed NE before. He was forgetting the fact that Sasuke could have also absorbed bijuus chakra earlier, not just Naruto. He was being ignorant just like you are (but he still can't beat you in sheer ignorance).

Even in the current scenario, Sasuke could have also launched Indra's Arrow earlier instead of playing taijutsu game with the clones while Naruto still wouldn't have gathered the NE to counter it. That's was a 10/10 neg in Sasuke's favor. Naruto was saved by plot.

Plus, Sasuke absorbing the bijuus' chakra is faster than Naruto absorbing NE. Had Sasuke not kicked down a clone and played the taijutsu game, Naruto wouldn't even have gathered the NE in time.

And that "stay with Kakashi and gather NE" argument is BS. By that logic, Sasuke could have also absorbed the bijuus' chakra MUCH earlier directly after he used Rinnegan genjutsu on the tailed beasts while Naruto would need to make clones, go RSM+BM, then gather NE and wouldn't have made it in time, and would definitely get obliterated by Indra's Arrow there and then along with all others. 10/10 neg.

And I never said Naruto didn't get stronger, retard.



I never said Naruto got stagnant power. And I never said Sasuke has more chakra than Naruto. I don't know where you got this stuff, maybe pulled it outta your ass... This shows that your comprehension if f***ed up beyond repair. That's the reason why don't argue with you...

Dude u just said naruto got his power at once while sasukes power matures. And sasuke doesn't need the bijuus anymore to counter naruto basically saying if the fight happens again sasuke without bijuus would equal naruto if he did the same thing. So that means either sasukes power grew to the point where he grew as Strong as all the bijuus including the other half of kurama naruto got. Lol . Which would mean naruto didn't get any more power besides half of kurama. Then u said naruto needs bsm to equal the amount of sage chakra sasuke has. Which also means sasuke was given more power because bsm naruto is stronger than ems sasuke an idiot would dispute this. so for them to be equal sasuke would have to have gotten enough sage chakra to close the gap between himself and bsm naruto once his power matures as u say . Lol now to the fact about sasuke using bijuus chakra earlier . U can say all u want about sasuke could have done this and that but naruto could have easily blitzed sasuke while he casted his jutsu on Sakura and the bijuus u forgot all the time naruto stalled lol but u dont mention that lol naruto had the chances to end sasuke he just didn't want too.

 

[Jokule67]

It will.



Yeah...



Tell that to The Last Sasuke who destroyed a meteor with Chidori, a feat he couldn't perform before. That's OBVIOUSLY due to chakra maturing.



He will, logically.



Then that means his chakra is fully matured. Which means his PS is now equal to VOTE BPS (strongest PS possible).



LOL. You really believe after 12 years of its possession, Rinnegan still needs honing? LMAO!



That would have done nothing. A mastered Rinnegan =/= more power. He would not be able to create BPS or execute Indra's Arrow even if he had a mastered Rinnegan because they depend on chakra power, not Rinnegan's control.



Yes.



Not really.



My logic doesn't even imply anything close to that.



You're pathetic. Not even worth arguing, but I'll counter your post if it satisfies you.

Firstly, I was countering that guy's statement who said Naruto could have absorbed NE before. He was forgetting the fact that Sasuke could have also absorbed bijuus chakra earlier, not just Naruto. He was being ignorant just like you are (but he still can't beat you in sheer ignorance).

Even in the current scenario, Sasuke could have also launched Indra's Arrow earlier instead of playing taijutsu game with the clones while Naruto still wouldn't have gathered the NE to counter it. That's was a 10/10 neg in Sasuke's favor. Naruto was saved by plot.

Plus, Sasuke absorbing the bijuus' chakra is faster than Naruto absorbing NE. Had Sasuke not kicked down a clone and played the taijutsu game, Naruto wouldn't even have gathered the NE in time.

And that "stay with Kakashi and gather NE" argument is BS. By that logic, Sasuke could have also absorbed the bijuus' chakra MUCH earlier directly after he used Rinnegan genjutsu on the tailed beasts while Naruto would need to make clones, go RSM+BM, then gather NE and wouldn't have made it in time, and would definitely get obliterated by Indra's Arrow there and then along with all others. 10/10 neg.

And I never said Naruto didn't get stronger, retard.



I never said Naruto got stagnant power. And I never said Sasuke has more chakra than Naruto. I don't know where you got this stuff, maybe pulled it outta your ass... This shows that your comprehension if f***ed up beyond repair. That's the reason why I don't argue with you...

If Sasukes power matures than Naruto's would mature far above that. Which isnt happening. Sasuke is not as strong as VOTE and never will be. He does not have all that power at the ready and you cant restrict Naruto and say he wont get stronger but Sasuke will. Thats stupid. Come back when his Susano'o emanates lighting again and shoots indras arrow. Otherwise nice fanfic

 

[Jokule67]

Dude u just said naruto got his power at once while sasukes power matures. And sasuke doesn't need the bijuus anymore to counter naruto basically saying if the fight happens again sasuke without bijuus would equal naruto if he did the same thing. So that means either sasukes power grew to the point where he grew as Strong as all the bijuus including the other half of kurama naruto got. Lol . Which would mean naruto didn't get any more power besides half of kurama. Then u said naruto needs bsm to equal the amount of sage chakra sasuke has. Which also means sasuke was given more power because bsm naruto is stronger than ems sasuke an idiot would dispute this. so for them to be equal sasuke would have to have gotten enough sage chakra to close the gap between himself and bsm naruto once his power matures as u say . Lol now to the fact about sasuke using bijuus chakra earlier . U can say all u want about sasuke could have done this and that but naruto could have easily blitzed sasuke while he casted his jutsu on Sakura and the bijuus u forgot all the time naruto stalled lol but u dont mention that lol naruto had the chances to end sasuke he just didn't want too.

He says Sasuke has endless growth while Naruto has none. Even though Sasuke's Susano'o head was shattered just as easily in Boruto movie yet he is suppose to be on the sages level? I think not.

 

[Obito the supreme jin]

They are cocky because they can actually back their shit up. Hashirama smashed Maddy's ass to a tree and Naruto despite stalemating with Sasuke's strongest attack could potentially defeat Sasuke's but I am not too sure about Naruto's case.

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Dude u just said naruto got his power at once while sasukes power matures.

You need to learn to read. Maybe you missed a few key things. This is what I said...

That's just the nature of their powers. Naruto gets his powers immediately and then they grow slowly and slightly while Sasuke gets his powers from scratch and they grow quickly and hugely to equal Naruto. That has been the case with all their powers. So naturally, Teen Rinne Sasuke was weaker than Teen RSM Naruto (thankfully the bijuus' evened the playing field), but Adult Sasuke is equal to Adult Naruto on his own.

@underlined clearly means that Naruto's powers are NOT stagnant.

The above quote implies that Naruto gets a big chunk of his powers immediately and they gradually progress later on but with a slow growth rate. Meanwhile, Sasuke gets his powers from scratch of minimal forms and and then they gradually develop much faster with a much higher progression rate.

Sasuke's faster progression is proved from the fact that Naruto was stronger at VOTE, and then his chakra matured even further from there plus he even gained another half of Kurama on top of that, yet Sasuke equaled him with just his own chakra maturing. Because Sasuke's powers are set such that he starts much behind of Naruto and catches up to Naruto finally due to a much faster progression rate.

And sasuke doesn't need the bijuus anymore to counter naruto basically saying if the fight happens again sasuke without bijuus would equal naruto if he did the same thing.

Yes, as I've explained. Previously, Sasuke was weaker than Naruto so he needed the bijuus to equal him. Now he's equal to Naruto, so he doesn't need anything else to equal him.

So that means either sasukes power grew to the point where he grew as Strong as all the bijuus including the other half of kurama naruto got. Lol . Which would mean naruto didn't get any more power besides half of kurama.

This right here is the biggest flaw in your understanding. Sasuke didn't use the 9 bijuus for BPS and Indra's Arrow, he used the 9 bijuus combined chakra i.e. Juubi's chakra for that. So Sasuke doesn't need to grow as strong as all the bijuus because he DIDN'T use the bijuus, he used their chakra, which means his chakra should grow as strong as the 9 bijuus combined chakra i.e. Juubi's chakra. Once Sasuke's chakra becomes as strong as the Juubi's chakra, he can create a PS as strong as his VOTE BPS.

You're basically calculating Naruto and Sasuke's power increase by the number of bijuus involved in their VOTE fight rather than their actual contribution, which is flawed AF.

Then u said naruto needs bsm to equal the amount of sage chakra sasuke has.

I never said Naruto needs BSM, he needs BM on top of RSM to equal Sasuke's chakra potency.
And I never said Naruto needed BM to equal the "amount" of Sage chakra Sasuke has. I said Naruto needed BM to equal the "power" of the Sage chakra Sasuke has.

The reason you're argument is so flawed and illogical is because you can't differentiate between quality and quantity of chakra.

Which also means sasuke was given more power because bsm naruto is stronger than ems sasuke an idiot would dispute this.

At their shown levels i.e. in the war, BSM Naruto was stronger than EMS Sasuke. Similarly, with an equal power upgrade, Teen RSM Naruto was stronger than Teen Rinne Sasuke. The reason for this is the same as I mentioned above in my first quote. Sasuke's powers start from scratch and grow rapidly from there while Naruto's powers start from a huge portion already and grow slightly from there. So BSM Naruto would be stronger than EMS Sasuke initially. But after their powers mature (Sasuke's maturity is much greater than Naruto) i.e. if they reached adulthood with BSM and EMS respectively, then BSM Naruto would equal EMS Sasuke, just like how RSM Naruto equaled Rinnegan Sasuke despite starting out stronger in the Final Arc.

so for them to be equal sasuke would have to have gotten enough sage chakra to close the gap between himself and bsm naruto once his power matures as u say . Lol

Quantity/amount of chakra is irrelevant. Quality/power of chakra decides how strong they get.

now to the fact about sasuke using bijuus chakra earlier . U can say all u want about sasuke could have done this and that but naruto could have easily blitzed sasuke while he casted his jutsu on Sakura and the bijuus u forgot all the time naruto stalled lol but u dont mention that lol naruto had the chances to end sasuke he just didn't want too.

Nothing worth countering. All of the important stuff has been addressed above.

If Sasukes power matures than Naruto's would mature far above that. Which isnt happening.

Why would Naruto's powers mature far above that? Just because you like it that way?

Sasuke's power maturity is much greater than Naruto's. Naruto receives a big chunk of his powers immediately and then they grow slightly from there while Sasuke receives his powers from scratch and then they grow rapidly from there. This is seen by all of Naruto and Sasuke's powers. Naruto received his Kurama Avatar immediately after attaining BM while Sasuke needed to develop his Susanoo from its very initial stages. Since Sasuke's progression was much faster, he got close to Naruto and would've equaled him at some point if they went further on with the same powers.

Sasuke is not as strong as VOTE and never will be.

Your opinion doesn't matter. I've already explained this with logical and factual evidences.

He does not have all that power at the ready and you cant restrict Naruto and say he wont get stronger but Sasuke will. Thats stupid.

I never restricted Naruto. I used manga facts to prove Naruto and Sasuke's respective power acquisitions and developments. I never said Naruto wouldn't grow stronger. He already received a huge portion of his powers immediately after attaining them unlike Sasuke. Sasuke needed to develop his powers further to equal Naruto. Luckily, he has a much faster progression rate which allows that.

Come back when his Susano'o emanates lighting again and shoots indras arrow. Otherwise nice fanfic

Come back when Naruto creates the 3 faced Kurama Avatar again. Since you need manga/movie proof and not logical conclusions, I also demand the same.

He says Sasuke has endless growth while Naruto has none. Even though Sasuke's Susano'o head was shattered just as easily in Boruto movie yet he is suppose to be on the sages level? I think not.

You sir need to learn how to read just like your friend, Liquid Snake. Go read my reply to the first quote in this post which counters this same misapprehended crap from Liquid Snake.

And Sasuke's Susanoo head shattered proves nothing. Momoshiki's Lightning attack was powerful as hell. You're just seeing Sasuke's defensive power but completely ignoring Momoshiki's offensive power. LOL. BS :lol

 

[Liquid Snake]

You need to learn to read. Maybe you missed a few key things. This is what I said...


@underlined clearly means that Naruto's powers are NOT stagnant.

The above quote implies that Naruto gets a big chunk of his powers immediately and they gradually progress later on but with a slow growth rate. Meanwhile, Sasuke gets his powers from scratch of minimal forms and and then they gradually develop much faster with a much higher progression rate.

Sasuke's faster progression is proved from the fact that Naruto was stronger at VOTE, and then his chakra matured even further from there plus he even gained another half of Kurama on top of that, yet Sasuke equaled him with just his own chakra maturing. Because Sasuke's powers are set such that he starts much behind of Naruto and catches up to Naruto finally due to a much faster progression rate.



Yes, as I've explained. Previously, Sasuke was weaker than Naruto so he needed the bijuus to equal him. Now he's equal to Naruto, so he doesn't need anything else to equal him.



This right here is the biggest flaw in your understanding. Sasuke didn't use the 9 bijuus for BPS and Indra's Arrow, he used the 9 bijuus combined chakra i.e. Juubi's chakra for that. So Sasuke doesn't need to grow as strong as all the bijuus because he DIDN'T use the bijuus, he used their chakra, which means his chakra should grow as strong as the 9 bijuus combined chakra i.e. Juubi's chakra. Once Sasuke's chakra becomes as strong as the Juubi's chakra, he can create a PS as strong as his VOTE BPS.

You're basically calculating Naruto and Sasuke's power increase by the number of bijuus involved in their VOTE fight rather than their actual contribution, which is flawed AF.



I never said Naruto needs BSM, he needs BM on top of RSM to equal Sasuke's chakra potency.
And I never said Naruto needed BM to equal the "amount" of Sage chakra Sasuke has. I said Naruto needed BM to equal the "power" of the Sage chakra Sasuke has.

The reason you're argument is so flawed and illogical is because you can't differentiate between quality and quantity of chakra.



At their shown levels i.e. in the war, BSM Naruto was stronger than EMS Sasuke. Similarly, with an equal power upgrade, Teen RSM Naruto was stronger than Teen Rinne Sasuke. The reason for this is the same as I mentioned above in my first quote. Sasuke's powers start from scratch and grow rapidly from there while Naruto's powers start from a huge portion already and grow slightly from there. So BSM Naruto would be stronger than EMS Sasuke initially. But after their powers mature (Sasuke's maturity is much greater than Naruto) i.e. if they reached adulthood with BSM and EMS respectively, then BSM Naruto would equal EMS Sasuke, just like how RSM Naruto equaled Rinnegan Sasuke despite starting out stronger in the Final Arc.



Quantity/amount of chakra is irrelevant. Quality/power of chakra decides how strong they get.



Nothing worth countering. All of the important stuff has been addressed above.



Why would Naruto's powers mature far above that? Just because you like it that way?

Sasuke's power maturity is much greater than Naruto's. Naruto receives a big chunk of his powers immediately and then they grow slightly from there while Sasuke receives his powers from scratch and then they grow rapidly from there. This is seen by all of Naruto and Sasuke's powers. Naruto received his Kurama Avatar immediately after attaining BM while Sasuke needed to develop his Susanoo from its very initial stages. Since Sasuke's progression was much faster, he got close to Naruto and would've equaled him at some point if they went further on with the same powers.



Your opinion doesn't matter. I've already explained this with logical and factual evidences.



I never restricted Naruto. I used manga facts to prove Naruto and Sasuke's respective power acquisitions and developments. I never said Naruto wouldn't grow stronger. He already received a huge portion of his powers immediately after attaining them unlike Sasuke. Sasuke needed to develop his powers further to equal Naruto. Luckily, he has a much faster progression rate which allows that.



Come back when Naruto creates the 3 faced Kurama Avatar again. Since you need manga/movie proof and not logical conclusions, I also demand the same.



You sir need to learn how to read just like your friend, Liquid Snake. Go read my reply to the first quote in this post which counters this same misapprehended crap from Liquid Snake.

And Sasuke's Susanoo head shattered proves nothing. Momoshiki's Lightning attack was powerful as hell. You're just seeing Sasuke's defensive power but completely ignoring Momoshiki's offensive power. LOL. BS :lol

Dude sasuke and naruto are not even in power. Sasuke has tactics that make him strong and that makes no sense to say sasukes power matures over time . Sasuke was able to fully utilize ems when he first got it . Naruto couldn't even hold sm or bm for too long when he first got it . Sasuke also used his eye power immediately when fighting madara while naruto was still given advice from the bijuus and sasuke. And no naruto doesn't need bm to equal sasuke current sm naruto can equal sasuke in power naruto only needs bm for the ps that's all .Hago and naruto received equal power ups so current sasuke is weaker than current naruto. If naruto absorbed ne like vote sasuke has no counter and don't say oh sasuke can absorb it because he didn't even absorb momoshikis attack with lightning he was only seen absorbing kuramas chakra to heal . Also naruto would be twice as Strong as his vote self because the other kurama adds more power and reserves which means more ne sasuke can't counter that if he can't even counter momoshikis movee before him and kinishiki fused . And naruto clearly showed his power increased by stopping a dama bomb which we all know sasuke couldn't stop had he been there by himself lol ps definitely can't stop that atk . Also sasuke himself said in the movie if naruto goes its over unlike in the fight with madara he said if either of them go its over he knows naruto is the only real chance they have at fighting opponents like that .really sasuke isn't even stronger than kinishiki just more tactical . Naruto would beat the shit out of kinishiki

 

[The Demon Hawk]

Arguing with you is such a pain...

Dude sasuke and naruto are not even in power.

They ARE even in power. Kishi said that, and the author's words are more relevant that your worthless opinion. Just accept the facts.

Sasuke has tactics that make him strong

He may have them. It doesn't matter that much in determining power.

and that makes no sense to say sasukes power matures over time .

Really? Dude, your knowledge is seriously lacking. EVERYBODY'S chakra and power mature over time. Some grow at a faster rate while some grow slowly.

Sasuke was able to fully utilize ems when he first got it .

No, he couldn't. He started out with a slightly enhanced V4 Susanoo. Then he manifested legs in V3 Susanoo. The same could be potentially applied to V4 with a little honing. Then he manifested PS in the form of Iso Susanoo. And even then his PS was not even close to Madara's PS because his chakra wasn't as matured as Madara's chakra. Sasuke would need to mature his chakra long enough to reach Madara's level which would happen by the time Sasuke reached Madara's age while retaining EMS.

It took time for him to develop his EMS power whereas Naruto instantly manifested the Kurama Avatar right after entering BM. And instantly availed the full potential of BSM.

Naruto couldn't even hold sm or bm for too long when he first got it .

That's a limitation. Not lacking power.

Sasuke also used his eye power immediately when fighting madara while naruto was still given advice from the bijuus and sasuke.

Where the hell is this BS dragged out of?

And no naruto doesn't need bm to equal sasuke current sm naruto can equal sasuke in power

No, he can't. Plus, strength varies over time. At a particular time, Sasuke might be weaker when his powers were undeveloped. But after honing and fully developing, his powers might be stronger accordingly. You just need to realize the potential and caliber of their respective powers at the respective times and how Sasuke's powers would stack up against Naruto when both their powers are fully matured. That'll give the most accurate idea.

naruto only needs bm for the ps that's all .

Absolutely false. Stop overestimating Naruto.

Hago and naruto received equal power ups so current sasuke is weaker than current naruto.

No. Kishi disagrees so you can throw your opinions in trash.

If naruto absorbed ne like vote sasuke has no counter and don't say oh sasuke can absorb it because he didn't even absorb momoshikis attack with lightning he was only seen absorbing kuramas chakra to heal .

Sasuke can just Ameno swap and let Naruto take his own attack. Or if he really wants to stalemate, he'll just fire Indra's Arrow. I already proved how.

Also naruto would be twice as Strong as his vote self because the other kurama adds more power and reserves which means more ne sasuke can't counter that if he can't even counter momoshikis movee before him and kinishiki fused .

Naruto absorbed all the NE around. He can't absorb any more NE.

His chakra being matured and the addition of another half of Kurama means that Naruto's single Kurama Avatar will have the capacity of absorbing all NE around by default rather than creating the 3 faced Kurama Avatar for achieving the same capability. Which means his Kurama Avatar will be as strong as his 3 faced Kurama Avatar at VOTE, which BTW was the strongest a Kurama Avatar could get.

And naruto clearly showed his power increased by stopping a dama bomb which we all know sasuke couldn't stop had he been there by himself lol ps definitely can't stop that atk .

He could have employed any different method to stop the BD. Stop assuming he can't do it.

Also sasuke himself said in the movie if naruto goes its over unlike in the fight with madara he said if either of them go its over

LOL. This proves nothing. Sasuke only said that because Momoshiki was only attacking Naruto, not both of them. Naruto was tanking the attacks and could potentially die, that's why Sasuke said that. If Momoshiki was attacking both of them, then Sasuke would have said the same thing as he said against Madara and Kaguya.

he knows naruto is the only real chance they have at fighting opponents like that .

LMAO at your opinions. Of course BOTH of their powers were required to put down Momoshiki, not just Naruto. And Sasuke was more important because of his dimension travelling ability. If Sasuke died, nobody would be able to go and save Naruto's ass.

really sasuke isn't even stronger than kinishiki just more tactical . Naruto would beat the shit out of kinishiki

Again, that's your opinion, which isn't important in the least.

 

[Kurosaki815]

Naruto and Hashirama aren't really cocky.......... Hashirama mentioned in his fight against Madara that he didn't imply that he could kill Madara at any point but that they were friends and shouldn't fight......... Naruto isn't all that cocky at all .......... He just rushes into fights stupidly and tries weird ideas until one of them finally works

 

[Cooh]

If you say so man.

Sasuke went all out..while Naruto only made sure his power equaled Sasuke so he wouldn't fatally injure him.

It's just the truth.

Not really, Sasuke wasn't impressed by Narutos feats that's why he pointed it out. This is the truth.

 

[Liquid Snake]

Arguing with you is such a pain...



They ARE even in power. Kishi said that, and the author's words are more relevant that your worthless opinion. Just accept the facts.



He may have them. It doesn't matter that much in determining power.



Really? Dude, your knowledge is seriously lacking. EVERYBODY'S chakra and power mature over time. Some grow at a faster rate while some grow slowly.



No, he couldn't. He started out with a slightly enhanced V4 Susanoo. Then he manifested legs in V3 Susanoo. The same could be potentially applied to V4 with a little honing. Then he manifested PS in the form of Iso Susanoo. And even then his PS was not even close to Madara's PS because his chakra wasn't as matured as Madara's chakra. Sasuke would need to mature his chakra long enough to reach Madara's level which would happen by the time Sasuke reached Madara's age while retaining EMS.

It took time for him to develop his EMS power whereas Naruto instantly manifested the Kurama Avatar right after entering BM. And instantly availed the full potential of BSM.



That's a limitation. Not lacking power.



Where the hell is this BS dragged out of?



No, he can't. Plus, strength varies over time. At a particular time, Sasuke might be weaker when his powers were undeveloped. But after honing and fully developing, his powers might be stronger accordingly. You just need to realize the potential and caliber of their respective powers at the respective times and how Sasuke's powers would stack up against Naruto when both their powers are fully matured. That'll give the most accurate idea.



Absolutely false. Stop overestimating Naruto.



No. Kishi disagrees so you can throw your opinions in trash.



Sasuke can just Ameno swap and let Naruto take his own attack. Or if he really wants to stalemate, he'll just fire Indra's Arrow. I already proved how.



Naruto absorbed all the NE around. He can't absorb any more NE.

His chakra being matured and the addition of another half of Kurama means that Naruto's single Kurama Avatar will have the capacity of absorbing all NE around by default rather than creating the 3 faced Kurama Avatar for achieving the same capability. Which means his Kurama Avatar will be as strong as his 3 faced Kurama Avatar at VOTE, which BTW was the strongest a Kurama Avatar could get.



He could have employed any different method to stop the BD. Stop assuming he can't do it.



LOL. This proves nothing. Sasuke only said that because Momoshiki was only attacking Naruto, not both of them. Naruto was tanking the attacks and could potentially die, that's why Sasuke said that. If Momoshiki was attacking both of them, then Sasuke would have said the same thing as he said against Madara and Kaguya.



LMAO at your opinions. Of course BOTH of their powers were required to put down Momoshiki, not just Naruto. And Sasuke was more important because of his dimension travelling ability. If Sasuke died, nobody would be able to go and save Naruto's ass.



Again, that's your opinion, which isn't important in the least.

U dumbaas momoshiki attacked both of them he attacked everyone in the stadium dumb ****.and sasuke has no move as powerful as frs u keep saying indras arrow without bijuus and that's Ur fanfic one sum bullshit facts u made up. Naruto in sm was able to cut the juubi Tree which is much stronger than half a meteor that was cut by Lee lol. Sasuke still hasn't shown anymore destructive force than that. He was easily handled by kinishiki a drawn out battle between them kinishiki would win it was an asspull that their fight just stopped lol. And no kishi said sasukes abilities allow him to rival naruto doesn't mean the power is equal . Dumb ass and sasuke mastered susanoo when he first got ems itachi even said this just because sasuke used different versions doesn't mean he couldn't use legged version from get go he only realized the stabilized version during the war in which madara also showed his even kakashi used ps once he seen how its done doesn't take time to mature u dumb ****. And sasuke used his rinnegan the moment madara attacked him then a few minutes later knew he could switch madara to the combination attack that took no time to get used to . Also with amaretsu he used it on bee and even extinguished the flames in no time didn't have to mature lol dumb **** and the kurama avatar takes no training dumb ass it happens automatic when naruto befriend kurama it still took time to be able to hold the avatar. And tell me how can sasuke counter the dama bomb lol with ameno right ? Lmao u fanboys are classic . And if sasuke was more helpful in stopping the db naruto wouldn't have needed to be saved dumb ****.and Ur sayin when naruto enters rsm with full kurama he automatically has all surrounding nE? So if current naruto makes 3 kurama clones again uuhe won't be stronger ? How dumb are u? U think naruto needs all ne on the planet to equal sasuke with all bijuus no just ne from that area . All the bijuus can't even beat madara with no eyes . Lol and again sasuke can't beat kinishiki stop overestimating sasuke naruto stomps kinishiki that alone proves naruto is stronger

 

[Liquid Snake]

Not really, Sasuke wasn't impressed by Narutos feats that's why he pointed it out. This is the truth.

How wasn't he impressed he even told boruto he lost to naruto and the only one who can surpass naruto is boruto lol dumb ass sasuke fans I swear

 

[Sage konohamaru]

Sasuke and madara are *****

 

[The Demon Hawk]

U dumbaas momoshiki attacked both of them he attacked everyone in the stadium dumb ****.and sasuke has no move as powerful as frs u keep saying indras arrow without bijuus and that's Ur fanfic one sum bullshit facts u made up. Naruto in sm was able to cut the juubi Tree which is much stronger than half a meteor that was cut by Lee lol. Sasuke still hasn't shown anymore destructive force than that. He was easily handled by kinishiki a drawn out battle between them kinishiki would win it was an asspull that their fight just stopped lol. And no kishi said sasukes abilities allow him to rival naruto doesn't mean the power is equal . Dumb ass and sasuke mastered susanoo when he first got ems itachi even said this just because sasuke used different versions doesn't mean he couldn't use legged version from get go he only realized the stabilized version during the war in which madara also showed his even kakashi used ps once he seen how its done doesn't take time to mature u dumb ****. And sasuke used his rinnegan the moment madara attacked him then a few minutes later knew he could switch madara to the combination attack that took no time to get used to . Also with amaretsu he used it on bee and even extinguished the flames in no time didn't have to mature lol dumb **** and the kurama avatar takes no training dumb ass it happens automatic when naruto befriend kurama it still took time to be able to hold the avatar. And tell me how can sasuke counter the dama bomb lol with ameno right ? Lmao u fanboys are classic . And if sasuke was more helpful in stopping the db naruto wouldn't have needed to be saved dumb ****.and Ur sayin when naruto enters rsm with full kurama he automatically has all surrounding nE? So if current naruto makes 3 kurama clones again uuhe won't be stronger ? How dumb are u? U think naruto needs all ne on the planet to equal sasuke with all bijuus no just ne from that area . All the bijuus can't even beat madara with no eyes . Lol and again sasuke can't beat kinishiki stop overestimating sasuke naruto stomps kinishiki that alone proves naruto is stronger

Your statements, understanding, conclusions and reading comprehension are f***ed up beyond belief. Your level of argument sucks donkey balls. You didn't even understand 90% of my post, you automatically concluded things I never implied, half the things you associated with my argument I never even said, and then you spammed the same BS garbage again which has absolutely no relevance to MY argument and is totally false, all this only because of your shitty understanding and conclusion. There is absolutely no point in replying to your bulls***. I don't know why I even indulge in an argument with a fool like you.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Your statements, understanding, conclusions and reading comprehension are f***ed up beyond belief. Your level of argument sucks donkey balls. You didn't even understand 90% of my post, you automatically concluded things I never implied, half the things you associated with my argument I never even said, and then you spammed the same BS garbage again which has absolutely no relevance to MY argument and is totally false, all this only because of your shitty understanding and conclusion. There is absolutely no point in replying to your bulls***. I don't know why I even indulge in an argument with a fool like you.

Lmfao This made me laugh.

 

[Liquid Snake]

Your statements, understanding, conclusions and reading comprehension are f***ed up beyond belief. Your level of argument sucks donkey balls. You didn't even understand 90% of my post, you automatically concluded things I never implied, half the things you associated with my argument I never even said, and then you spammed the same BS garbage again which has absolutely no relevance to MY argument and is totally false, all this only because of your shitty understanding and conclusion. There is absolutely no point in replying to your bulls***. I don't know why I even indulge in an argument with a fool like you.

Stupid ***** cause what u said is nothing but bullshit with no evidence sasuke doesn't need the bijuus anymore to make the arrow he hasn't shown anything even close to it u dumb **** and no u never implied them directly but jif u use common sense everything I said is ****in true

 

[Cooh]

How wasn't he impressed he even told boruto he lost to naruto and the only one who can surpass naruto is boruto lol dumb ass sasuke fans I swear

Oh it's the retard that can't comprehend a childrens Manga again. :lol

 

[Liquid Snake]

Oh it's the retard that can't comprehend a childrens Manga again. :lol

Anyone who doesn't praise sasuke can't understand the manga? Lol the logic of sauce fans lol