Nagato is a Monster and id say is the best (outside tobi with renningan now)

[list4e]

Konan(the girl with blue hair or the girlfriend of nagato)killed madara once but he used the most powerfull genjutsu to bring himself back

 

[ReLax -]

Itachi is not faster then Minato thats the most rediculous thing I've ever heard on NB.

Muu is Def top 10. He can erase his Chakra presence from earth.
Nagato has a ton of skills but he has no sensor abilities to find Muu.

Muu? Erases his chakra presence but yet him and the 2nd mizukage died together in a battle vs each other.

Top 10 I don't think so maybe 25

 

[veggetta13]

but each pein has one technique and the more you take out the weaker he gets. also i would to know how
nagato would be able to shoot missles.

he might as well shit them

 

[DigitalMonster]

Nidaime Mizukage killed Muu
Nidaime Mizukage introduced himself as a genjutsu user.
Itachi=genjutsu

Therefore,Itachi>Muu

And Nagato's weakness was founded

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[raxy]

0.so6p
1.Senju Hashirama
2.Madara Uchiha
3.Naruto Uzumaki
4.Sasuke Uchiha
5.Minato Namikaze
6.Nagato Uzumaki
7.Itachi Uchiha
8.Kabuto Yakushi
9.Killer B
10.Jiraiya

Come on people we all know Uchiha,senju and uzumaki are strongest clan (Descendants of so6p). We havent seen muu fighting anyone yet so can't say much about him but i think there are other people who are stronger than him that are not even in top 10 like raikage, raikage's dad,3rd hokage, gaara and many more.

 

[raxy]

Nidaime Mizukage killed Muu
Nidaime Mizukage introduced himself as a genjutsu user.
Itachi=genjutsu

Therefore,Itachi>Muu

And Nagato's weakness was founded

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I agree with muu part but i highly disagree about genjutsu being nagato's weakness. If he was that weak against genjutsu itachi would have taken over the leadership of akatsuki long ago. I think you know that rinnegan>sharingnan

 

[DigitalMonster]

I agree with muu part but i highly disagree about genjutsu being nagato's weakness. If he was that weak against genjutsu itachi would have taken over the leadership of akatsuki long ago. I think you know that rinnegan>sharingnan

You didn't argue the fact that genjutsu being Nagato's weakness and you told I'm wrong.
And Itachi doesn't need to be their leader,he's already above god level.

Yes,Rinnegan>Base Sharingan.
Itachi's using Mangekyo and it's entirely a new form of base sharingan. And since Kishi hasn't inform us yet that Rinnegan is more powerful than MS,they can be said equally match.

 

[Sharingan Itachi]

nagato is weaker now! with the 6 paths he could use all his powers at once now he does them one at a time.

Exactly and also if he is fought face to face genjutsu would cause him problems unlike when he is fighting with the six paths, and when he is using the six paths he will have the advantage of the full 360 view.
So basically nagato increased his powers when he used the pain bodies not the opposite.

 

[Draegod]

Nidaime Mizukage killed Muu
Nidaime Mizukage introduced himself as a genjutsu user.
Itachi=genjutsu

Therefore,Itachi>Muu

And Nagato's weakness was founded

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what the hell are you talking about?????did muu die from the sharingan genjutsu???? no, so dont compare the mizus power to itachi when they are two totaly diferent characters with diferent fighting styles! thats like comparing kurenai to itachi sense they both use genjutsu's! that is the most stupid statement i have ever heard!!!!

and just because jmans SOUND genjutsu affected pain, doesnt mean itachis VISUAL genjutsu will have the same effects on pain! plus keep in mind pain was playing with jman if he wanted jman dead, he would of been dead a long time ago! you go off the kid logic i see now, "if person A this this to person C, then person B could do the same thing and win even tho they are nothing alike in fighting style and in minds"..... get real!

 

[Exaar]

ok, and he took a full powered rasengan like it was nothing. in that fight tobi was weak "a shell of him former self", and did no jutsu but try and suck minato up. that tobi was weak, this tobi is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy stronger... next!

Why do people always try and make some sort of excuse why Madara lost to minato xd

He maybe ( a shell of his former self) but minato did what most ninja's still cannot do, that is wound madara

The fact he made Madara retreat and stoped the kyuubi is impressive

 

[Draegod]

Why do people always try and make some sort of excuse why Madara lost to minato xd

He maybe ( a shell of his former self) but minato did what most ninja's still cannot do, that is wound madara

The fact he made Madara retreat and stoped the kyuubi is impressive

i didnt say it wasnt impressive! i agree, but then again he is a kage! he better save the village or do something spl.lol

its the fact that ppl think minato went against a full power EMS madara and the fox that gets me. and ppl on this site in particular are easily amazed at the smalest things like when he rasenganed tobi, he didnt do anything that killed tobi, he did a simple rasengan that naruto has thousands of. then they say just becuase he is fast he is a god???? get out of here!

now do you see why im not to much amazed?

 

[natssuu]

I agree with muu part but i highly disagree about genjutsu being nagato's weakness. If he was that weak against genjutsu itachi would have taken over the leadership of akatsuki long ago. I think you know that rinnegan>sharingnan

Jiraiya was Nagato's master and only teacher and we all know that Jiraiya was bad in genjutsus. Itachi's Tsukiyomi would work on Nagato. Itachi was Akatsuki member just because he investigated Madara. There was no reason for him to be Akatsuki's leader.

 

[Draegod]

Jiraiya was Nagato's master and only teacher and we all know that Jiraiya was bad in genjutsus. Itachi's Tsukiyomi would work on Nagato. Itachi was Akatsuki member just because he investigated Madara. There was no reason for him to be Akatsuki's leader.

but it wasnt jman doing the genjutsu, it was 2 LEGENDARY SAGES THAT HAVE LIVED FOR OVER A THOUSAND YEARS that did the most bad ass genjutsu! and the leader of the akatsuki is irrelevant, nagato is just better then itachi, especialy that he was sick! nagato would run circles on itachi!lol

 

[YIN YANG]

I agree with muu part but i highly disagree about genjutsu being nagato's weakness. If he was that weak against genjutsu itachi would have taken over the leadership of akatsuki long ago. I think you know that rinnegan>sharingnan

Genjutsu is his weakness jiraiya even had to rely on it to defeat him and so were the mind readers in konoha so that they can stall him. nagato said it himself he doesn't like genjutsu when jaraiya frogs did one on his pain's because he's vulenrable to genjutsu.

 

[YIN YANG]

i didnt say it wasnt impressive! i agree, but then again he is a kage! he better save the village or do something spl.lol

its the fact that ppl think minato went against a full power EMS madara and the fox that gets me. and ppl on this site in particular are easily amazed at the smalest things like when he rasenganed tobi, he didnt do anything that killed tobi, he did a simple rasengan that naruto has thousands of. then they say just becuase he is fast he is a god???? get out of here!

now do you see why im not to much amazed?

also on that time minato had alot on his mind to deal with nine tails blast so the village won't be destroyed and he's is better than madara in strategy if you look on how he knew how to counter tobi's transportation tech if he fought against madara former self im sure he'll be able to at least be a match for him. :flaw:

 

[YIN YANG]

You didn't argue the fact that genjutsu being Nagato's weakness and you told I'm wrong.
And Itachi doesn't need to be their leader,he's already above god level.

Yes,Rinnegan>Base Sharingan.
Itachi's using Mangekyo and it's entirely a new form of base sharingan. And since Kishi hasn't inform us yet that Rinnegan is more powerful than MS,they can be said equally match.

The rinnegan is superior to the ms just look at the jutsu you can do to just counter three of the ms techs.:flaw:

 

[Inception]

@ people who are comparing toad's genjutsu vs. Tsukiyomi. Please stop. Jiraiya's genjutsu was powerful but it does not do anything but paralyze the foe. He still has to walk up to them and kill them himself, thus ending the genjutsu. Itachi's Tsukiyomi on the other hand alters time in the enemy's mind. One second could be days. Not only that, he can kill using his Tsukiyomi. He does not have to harm them physically, Tsukiyomi does that. (Kakashi and Sasuke in bed for weeks)

@ people who are saying Muu is the strongest. Yes, he may be one of the strongest characters so far but he died to a genjutsu user. I know he killed the Mizukage too but he himself was also killed. Tsukiyomi is said to the strongest genjutsu that exists (confirmed by Zetsu) so I'm not sure how you're comparing the Mizukage's genjutsu to Tsukiyomi.

In the recent chapter, we saw that Itachi is just as capable in taijutsu, kenjutsu and ninjutsu as he is in genjutsu. He's keeping up with Bee's kenjutsu and taijutsu while keeping him busy with nin and genjutsu. He has not even used his MS yet. Reminder, Bee is A LOT stronger than he was back then all because of Samehada.

And finally Nagato. Yes, Nagato is very powerful but even he cannot get past Itachi's Susano'o. He can surely outlast it as he's got tons of stamina but how can he avoid being sealed? How is he going to get past Yata's Mirror? Nagato can beat Itachi but not when Susano'o is up.

 

[YIN YANG]

@ people who are comparing toad's genjutsu vs. Tsukiyomi.

And finally Nagato. Yes, Nagato is very powerful but even he cannot get past Itachi's Susano'o. He can surely outlast it as he's got tons of stamina but how can he avoid being sealed? How is he going to get past Yata's Mirror? Nagato can beat Itachi but not when Susano'o is up.

I know susano is has a good defense but it not unbeatable even shown when danzo went against sasuke version of the susano and nagato six path could handle itachi susano fine with his pain's and his wide range of abilities of summoning,repulsion,absorping chakras, and etc are surely capable of handling itachi.:flaw:

 

[Inception]

I know susano is has a good defense but it not unbeatable even shown when danzo went against sasuke version of the susano and nagato six path could handle itachi susano fine with his pain's and his wide range of abilities of summoning,repulsion,absorping chakras, and etc are surely capable of handling itachi.:flaw:

Why are you comparing Sasuke's incomplete Susano'o to Itachi's complete Susano'o with Yata's Mirror and Blade of Totsuka?

Sasuke's incomplete Susano'o was so fast that he had to resort to spamming Izanagi.

Anyways, yes Nagato is very capable of keeping up with Itachi but there's no way he can get past Susano'o defence with Yata's Mirror. He can probably defeat a normal Susano'o but not Yata's Mirror.

 

[YIN YANG]

Why are you comparing Sasuke's incomplete Susano'o to Itachi's complete Susano'o with Yata's Mirror and Blade of Totsuka?

Sasuke's incomplete Susano'o was so fast that he had to resort to spamming Izanagi.

Anyways, yes Nagato is very capable of keeping up with Itachi but there's no way he can get past Susano'o defence with Yata's Mirror. He can probably defeat a normal Susano'o but not Yata's Mirror.

Im pretty sure shira tensai can do some damage but anyways what about itachi chakra do you think he can even out last nagato chakra. Both of are some what evenly macthed but pain would beat itachi by just the overuse of susanoo and pain has a masssive load of chakra so how can itachi beat him.
Yata's mirror is not invincible to dodge from he can resummmon his pain somewhere else or use his deva path to make a sheild to protect him self from it.:flaw: