Minato probably loses to Tobirama by now

[Retsu]

It's not gonna be easy for either fighter but Tobirama imho has a wider variety of jutsu, and he can mark regular kunai. It's gonna be a hard fought battle but Tobirama doesn't murder Minato as he has the advantage in speed.

 

[jiraiya lives]

Tobirama has always been above minato :|

OT: Edo tensei/endless explosive tags plus FTG marks on each of the edo's=a rape minato has never experienced

Also Tobirama's suiton>Minato's Rasengan

 

[Retsu]

Tobirama has always been above minato :|

OT: Edo tensei/endless explosive tags plus FTG marks on each of the edo's=a rape minato has never experienced

Also Tobirama's suiton>Minato's Rasengan

MInato has contract seal which takes away control of a user summons, I'm pretty sure his edo's would be used against him in that case

 

[Penguin]

What does deva have to do with Tobirama?

Tobirama is faster and has better reflexes than the deva. The toads never hit the deva.

 

[jiraiya lives]

MInato has contract seal which takes away control of a user summons, I'm pretty sure his edo's would be used against him in that case

only the caster can control the Edo's or unsummon them...unless im missing something here...

Either way it'll still be hard and deadly for minato to take away control from them while millions of explosive tags are going off in his face

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

exhibit a: this is a Fanboy hyping up a situation once again, implying that Minato will be unable to react to suidanha. The reason being Minato had his hand out -_-

Completely ignoring the fact Minato was unable to do anything else at that point because God Tree would/had already sucked up his chakra. This prevented him from engaging in movement to save Naruto as he only had ftg/body flicker to resort to. Therefore, Tobi used a long range offensive attack. WOW so fast!

You miss the moment of Tobi preparing this attack, hence building his chakra/suiton before release. At this point Minato still unable to do something because movement was hindered.

So you're telling me Minato would be unable to dodge this because what exactly?! You're also telling Pa owns Minato since he's shown the same ability, right?

You've paid so mucj attention to what Tobi and what appeared to be an amazing feat, ignored the content itself

As i said, you're not worth acknowledging

I never actually said it'd finish him off; I was merely outlining it's speed.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Tobirama is faster and has better reflexes than the deva. The toads never hit the deva.

And while he's destracted with 3 plus toads Madara will shunshin him and mark him

 

[Penguin]

And while he's destracted with 3 plus toads Madara will shunshin him and mark him

I doubt Minato can summon all those toads, and still have the chakra to use kage bunshin and ftg. Even if he did summon a toad, Tobirama can create bunshins to use Suidanha which cuts it. But Minato wouldn't summon toads, since he likes to fight one on one as seen against Tobi.

 

[blazekev90]

I never actually said it'd finish him off; I was merely outlining it's speed.

Like most jutsu it requires prep and quite easy to avoid for shinobi such as Minato. Also, the prep of that jutsu, Minato could use space-time barrier, a feat ignored but is OP.

I'm done with this discussion.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Like most jutsu it requires prep and quite easy to avoid for shinobi such as Minato. Also, the prep of that jutsu, Minato could use space-time barrier, a feat ignored but is OP.

I'm done with this discussion.

Prep which is one hand seal. Space-time barrier is of course valid, but then it ultimately becomes an endurance game of who banks out of chakra first.

 

[Ababeel]

Tobirama has always been above minato :|

OT: Edo tensei/endless explosive tags plus FTG marks on each of the edo's=a rape minato has never experienced

Also Tobirama's suiton>Minato's Rasengan

So much BS for one post. :|

 

[Gold Lightning]

I doubt Minato can summon all those toads, and still have the chakra to use kage bunshin and ftg. Even if he did summon a toad, Tobirama can create bunshins to use Suidanha which cuts it. But Minato wouldn't summon toads, since he likes to fight one on one as seen against Tobi.

Even if he summons just Gamabunta it will still be a distraction to Tobirama, Minato can use clones too so its not going to help him, it will just divide his power and make his FTG slower. And really, the worst arguments people use in a vs thread when they run out of ideas is assuming what a character might to in battle. That's really lame.

This isn't going to be a long battle, neither will it be determined by who has the more chakra or can out last the other. It's a fight between 2 speed demons, the victor depending on whoever is faster and whether Tobirama fans like to admit it or not - it's Minato. Plus Minato's kunai's are already prepped so it just makes it harder, and if you think Tobirama will just wash the kunais away with water style and minato just stands there and watches well then there is really no point in debating any further.

 

[Touken]

Even if he summons just Gamabunta it will still be a distraction to Tobirama, Minato can use clones too so its not going to help him, it will just divide his power and make his FTG slower. And really, the worst arguments people use in a vs thread when they run out of ideas is assuming what a character might to in battle. That's really lame.

This isn't going to be a long battle, neither will it be determined by who has the more chakra or can out last the other. It's a fight between 2 speed demons, the victor depending on whoever is faster and whether Tobirama fans like to admit it or not - it's Minato. Plus Minato's kunai's are already prepped so it just makes it harder, and if you think Tobirama will just wash the kunais away with water style and minato just stands there and watches well then there is really no point in debating any further.

Tajuu Kage Bunshin + marked kunai/sword takes away Minato's little advantage of having prepped kunai.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Tobirama has always been above minato :|

OT: Edo tensei/endless explosive tags plus FTG marks on each of the edo's=a rape minato has never experienced

Also Tobirama's suiton>Minato's Rasengan

Please show me one scan of a Tobiramas edo tensei feats, just one. Even if it is just a fodder, just show me who he can summon.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Am I the only one that thinks we all look pretty petty squabbling about dis rite now?

 

[Gold Lightning]

Tajuu Kage Bunshin + marked kunai/sword takes away Minato's little advantage of having prepped kunai.

Making up feats now are we, you Tobirama fans just don't give up. Since when can he make Tajuu Kage Bunshin, show me the proof or scan. Otherwise I'll just tell you Minato can do the same.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Making up feats now are we, you Tobirama fans just don't give up. Since when can he make Tajuu Kage Bunshin, show me the proof or scan. Otherwise I'll just tell you Minato can do the same.

Suffice it to say, Minato can. I mean, just about anyone can. It's not like Tajuu Kage Bushin no Jutsu is a new Jutsu in its own right, it's simply the division of multiple clones. Even Kakashi could do the feat. [

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[Touken]

Making up feats now are we, you Tobirama fans just don't give up. Since when can he make Tajuu Kage Bunshin, show me the proof or scan. Otherwise I'll just tell you Minato can do the same.

It doesn't take much to piece things together.

-Tajuu Kage Bunshin was a forbidden jutsu in the Hokage scroll
-Guess which Hokage created Kage Bunshin?
-Has shown he's got the chakra reserves for it
-Talks

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but has many Kage Bunshin in mind

 

[Gold Lightning]

It doesn't take much to piece things together.

-Tajuu Kage Bunshin was a forbidden jutsu in the Hokage scroll
-Guess which Hokage created Kage Bunshin?
-Has shown he's got the chakra reserves for it
-Talks

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but has many Kage Bunshin in mind

And Minato does the same thing and renders Tobirama's counter useless.

 

[Touken]

And Minato does the same thing and renders Tobirama's counter useless.

That wasn't my point.

As soon as Tobirama does that, Minato no longer has the FTG kunai advantage. It then all comes down to their smarticles and their other techniques.