Minato probably loses to Tobirama by now

[blazekev90]

How is his Suiton countered?

Kibakufuda dwarfs his greatest summons.

If you're unware of how Minato counters any lon/mid distance offenses you should re-read the manga.

Unlikely.

 

[AGoodBoy]

How is his Suiton countered?

Kibakufuda dwarfs his greatest summons.

minato just dodges the suiton.

Considering Tobirama has to get out of the blast zone of kibakufuda, and even hiruzen was able to jump away, minato or his toads have plenty time to escape.

 

[Touken]

Considering Tobirama has to get out of the blast zone of kibakufuda, and even hiruzen was able to jump away, minato or his toads have plenty time to escape.

Not this argument again D:

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

If you're unware of how Minato counters any lon/mid distance offenses you should re-read the manga.

Unlikely.

You are quite possibly one of the biggest jokes to enter this section. Again with the incredulous remarks and the comments that are reminiscent of what someone that is autistic would say.

 

[blazekev90]

You are quite possibly one of the biggest jokes to enter this section. Again with the incredulous remarks and the comments that are reminiscent of what someone that is autistic would say.

If you're unable to logically piece things together after reading the manga in its entirety, you are not worth of acknowledging.

I shouldn't have to explain everything to yiu if you indeed have read the manga. This is not preschool where i should have to walk you along every step of how something debunked. You being misinformed isn't my issue, that's your own.

Lol asking how Minato counters suiton is quite ridiculous.

 

[Avinash012]

Minato> Lawd Tobirama.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

If you're unable to logically piece things together after reading the manga in its entirety, you are not worth of acknowledging.

I shouldn't have to explain everything to yiu if you indeed have read the manga. This is not preschool where i should have to walk you along every step of how something debunked. You being misinformed isn't my issue, that's your own.

Lol asking how Minato counters suiton is quite ridiculous.

Ahh. I don't like where this is going. These connotations are quite striking. It is of no use debating against someone so stubborn; especially one that has no idea of how a debate should go. Maybe get a grasp of the burden of proof and then come back?

 

[blazekev90]

Ahh. I don't like where this is going. These connotations are quite striking. It is of no use debating against someone so stubborn; especially one that has no idea of how a debate should go. Maybe get a grasp of the burden of proof and then come back?

A debate is between two of equal standing and a topic worth discussing. You sir fall short on both matters. Quoting me as how Minato dodges suiton that Tobi displayed isn't "debatable" and if you think otherwise...well idk what to tell you lol. Common sense will eventually settle in.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

A debate is between two of equal standing and a topic worth discussing. You sir fall short on both matters. Quoting me as how Minato dodges suiton that Tobi displayed isn't "debatable" and if you think otherwise...well idk what to tell you lol. Common sense will eventually settle in.

I love that implied intellectual superiority.

I believe it was you that started the discussion, I merely quoted you on it, and you haven't actually "discussed" anything, just talked around the topic. It's no use trying to debate someone that is incredulous, or heavily autistic.

Something like Suidanha was able to cut through all those Shinju's roots in little under a moment. You notice Minato's had his arm held out all the while it shot through all those roots. You mean to infer that Minato held it out and waited whilst Tobirama cut all those roots if they had taken any longer?

"Omg wow I can't believe you didn't know that" is the type of thing if expect you to say if you were in my position.

 

[UchihaNagashi]

His suiton is easily countered, Tobi already admitted inferiority to his shuushin, toads shit.

Kev, I think you just dislike the character.​

 

[blazekev90]

Kev, I think you just dislike the character.​

I liked him at one point bro, but his feats are becoming overhyped by users. Now that's what i do hate, fanboys who overhype a character

 

[Bronze]

Tobirama:
-Equal FTG.
-Sensory perception.
-Edo Tensie.
-Variety of Suiton.
-Shadow clone Jutsu.

Minato:
-Equal FTG.
-Sensory percpetion(Tobirama is better in the end).
-Rasengan and Odama version.
-Shadow clone Jutsu.
-Summoning Jutsu: Toads.

This is a very close match up. Either they are on par, or I would give it to Minato.

 

[Optimistic]

^^^

Minato has better hair and shunshin. And he also got pum pum before dying.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Gosh this fanfiction needs to stop, Tobirama is not, never has been and never will be above Minato. Minato's body flicker is faster, his FTG is more versatile and practical (the guy throws like 30 kunai at once), both are extremely intelligent when it comes to battle tactics. But it's speed that is going to settle a fight between these two, nothing else.

And people need to stop saying Tobirama has edo's prepped with him to summon. If I can see one piece of evidence that suggests he has any edo's on him to go into a fight with then I will take it back, if not then shut up. Because he does not have any Edo's, he wasn't an evil man either, I doubt he is like Kabuto who just went grave robbing in any and every village. He invented the jutsu but where are his feats of using it. Gosh you fans will say anything to try and boost an inferior character just to make them look better even when they're outmatched.

Where is this nonsense coming from that Minato can't evade Water Jutsu. Kakashi side steps fireball jutsu and people are spouting this nonsene. And poeple used to make fun of Minato for not having enough powerful jutsu (just because he doesn't have mountain busters). What does Tobirama have? FTG slash and Servering Water jutsu are his strongest moves, and don't say his Tandem explosive tags until someone shows me a scan or proof of who he can summon with the reanimation. If you can't Minato's toad summonings then Minato even has more firepower, not that he needs toads against Tobirama.

Honestly Tobirama fans, how is Minato going to lose to someone slower than him and uses a less effective FTG, reaction/reflex wise they are about the same but overall speed is in Minato's favour? Common sense really needs to be used, It's like saying Dragon Sage mode Kabuto will lose to Orochimaru.

Tobirama doesn't win against any version of Minato, whether it is Base, KCM or BM Minato.

 

[blazekev90]

I love that implied intellectual superiority.

I believe it was you that started the discussion, I merely quoted you on it, and you haven't actually "discussed" anything, just talked around the topic. It's no use trying to debate someone that is incredulous, or heavily autistic.

Something like Suidanha was able to cut through all those Shinju's roots in little under a moment. You notice Minato's had his arm held out all the while it shot through all those roots. You mean to infer that Minato held it out and waited whilst Tobirama cut all those roots if they had taken any longer?

"Omg wow I can't believe you didn't know that" is the type of thing if expect you to say if you were in my position.

exhibit a: this is a Fanboy hyping up a situation once again, implying that Minato will be unable to react to suidanha. The reason being Minato had his hand out -_-

Completely ignoring the fact Minato was unable to do anything else at that point because God Tree would/had already sucked up his chakra. This prevented him from engaging in movement to save Naruto as he only had ftg/body flicker to resort to. Therefore, Tobi used a long range offensive attack. WOW so fast!

You miss the moment of Tobi preparing this attack, hence building his chakra/suiton before release. At this point Minato still unable to do something because movement was hindered.

So you're telling me Minato would be unable to dodge this because what exactly?! You're also telling Pa owns Minato since he's shown the same ability, right?

You've paid so mucj attention to what Tobi and what appeared to be an amazing feat, ignored the content itself

As i said, you're not worth acknowledging

 

[KidGamer65]

Nope, Minato still wins.

 

[Ababeel]

The latest chapter actually proved everything that Tobirama's fans were trying to avoid.

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Tobirama stated that Minato's teleportation is better than his, and we saw him arriving first to the battlefield.
But, Tobirama's fans always try to ignore this fact by saying "FTG cannot be slower or faster"

Then, Tobirama proved them wrong again

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Yet, the same they ignore this. However, in the last chapter

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Unlike Tobirama, Minato does not give a chance to react since he's faster than Tobirama's FTG.

 

[OnPoint]

The latest chapter actually proved everything that Tobirama's fans were trying to avoid.

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Tobirama stated that Minato's teleportation is better than his, and we saw him arriving first to the battlefield.
But, Tobirama's fans always try to ignore this fact by saying "FTG cannot be slower or faster"

Then, Tobirama proved them wrong again

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Yet, the same they ignore this. However, in the last chapter

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Unlike Tobirama, Minato does not give a chance to react since he's faster than Tobirama's FTG.

I agree with your general point, although the abilities of someone using Sennin mode need to be considered. Further, the part regarding Tobirama's doppelgangers may be referring to Obito's reaction speed rather than the mechanics (in this case, speed) of your basic Hiraishin. If you look at how Hiraishin Mawashi was used [

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], it literally left Obito with no chance of reacting whatsoever.

 

[Penguin]

Whoever marks who first wins. The toads really don't help Minato, seeing as how they failed to even hit Deva.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Whoever marks who first wins. The toads really don't help Minato, seeing as how they failed to even hit Deva.

What does deva have to do with Tobirama?