Konoha Tavern - RP General Chat Discussion

[Drackos]

At the moment I'm focused on looking for suggestions to make player vs. player fights at Witchwood something lucrative and engaging. I'm not really interested in any ideas involving anything that isn't a player fighting another player.

Also I'm not really interested in adding sensei to NW duties at the moment considering it's sort of a mess.

 

[Never]

At the moment I'm focused on looking for suggestions to make player vs. player fights at Witchwood something lucrative and engaging. I'm not really interested in any ideas involving anything that isn't a player fighting another player.

Also I'm not really interested in adding sensei to NW duties at the moment considering it's sort of a mess.

Understandable

 

[System001]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest something that's personally motivated by a gripe that I have.
For years I've been an enthusiast for a select few abilities, but each time I come back to the RP I end up feeling like that's a massive setback instead of a reward.
For a solid three years now I've been hearing it constantly - 'get a better bio'. Thing is, I don't want a 'better' bio, I want my bio. I made this bio for a reason - and that reason is that it's mine. My stuff. My style. My vision.
To me, that's what matters most, but I don't want to suffer for it. However, pragmatism demands that if there's a ceiling, I bail out and start working towards a bio that won't make me suffer...
And what does that entail? Farming kumi for a Six Paths bio or CoT?

I care for neither, but it would be silly for me not to when they offer the raw stats and power ceiling that paves the way back to the top of meta competitive.

And before you say customs...been there. Done that. It doesn't work. They get changed, limitations are set, you're arbitrarily barred from exploring avenues that are supported by the manga and should be open to you, or maybe you even get trolled by the manga itself, and when all is said and done you'll get a pat on the back and told that 'This is as far as it goes'

It's a shit feeling, and I'm tired of it. If this is some new era for the RP, and new era for the NW, then I don't see why it isn't facilitating a new era so that no ability, no matter how low a tier or canonically underdeveloped it is, is left obsolete in the face of tier 5.


Of course, this shouldn't come free. And it shouldn't come on a silver platter. But, in the right hands, small changes can lead to much, much bigger things, and I think that should be better supported.
There seems to be this massive Mod list of 'shit that's not allowed' - for whatever reason - but I propose that that list is taken, and introduced as acquirable traits or perks that can be worked towards in the RP - just as we can currently work towards tier 5 bios themselves.

Off the top of my head, examples would be things like;
Animals being able to consume pills
Additional/stronger custom breeds for Inuzuka/Aburamae
Liquid/gaseous steel
Blast that can work beyond contact, either through custom mediums or in the way Drackos had it set up before.
+30 to an affinity


And whatever, else, I'm sure the list could be extensive and allot for a variety of pre-set, and even user-submitted options.
But the end goal would be that, with the right set up, the right approach, a steady work towards and the right decisions, any bio can become a 'tier 5' bio.

And your bio, can be your vision.
Not a pre-wrapped package that you punch out of a vending machine.

WW fights could be good for this, thematically and functionally.

 

[Never]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest something that's personally motivated by a gripe that I have.
For years I've been an enthusiast for a select few abilities, but each time I come back to the RP I end up feeling like that's a massive setback instead of a reward.
For a solid three years now I've been hearing it constantly - 'get a better bio'. Thing is, I don't want a 'better' bio, I want my bio. I made this bio for a reason - and that reason is that it's mine. My stuff. My style. My vision.
To me, that's what matters most, but I don't want to suffer for it. However, pragmatism demands that if there's a ceiling, I bail out and start working towards a bio that won't make me suffer...
And what does that entail? Farming kumi for a Six Paths bio or CoT?

I care for neither, but it would be silly for me not to when they offer the raw stats and power ceiling that paves the way back to the top of meta competitive.

And before you say customs...been there. Done that. It doesn't work. They get changed, limitations are set, you're arbitrarily barred from exploring avenues that are supported by the manga and should be open to you, or maybe you even get trolled by the manga itself, and when all is said and done you'll get a pat on the back and told that 'This is as far as it goes'

It's a shit feeling, and I'm tired of it. If this is some new era for the RP, and new era for the NW, then I don't see why it isn't facilitating a new era so that no ability, no matter how low a tier or canonically underdeveloped it is, is left obsolete in the face of tier 5.


Of course, this shouldn't come free. And it shouldn't come on a silver platter. But, in the right hands, small changes can lead to much, much bigger things, and I think that should be better supported.
There seems to be this massive Mod list of 'shit that's not allowed' - for whatever reason - but I propose that that list is taken, and introduced as acquirable traits or perks that can be worked towards in the RP - just as we can currently work towards tier 5 bios themselves.

Off the top of my head, examples would be things like;
Animals being able to consume pills
Additional/stronger custom breeds for Inuzuka/Aburamae
Liquid/gaseous steel
Blast that can work beyond contact, either through custom mediums or in the way Drackos had it set up before.
+30 to an affinity


And whatever, else, I'm sure the list could be extensive and allot for a variety of pre-set, and even user-submitted options.
But the end goal would be that, with the right set up, the right approach, a steady work towards and the right decisions, any bio can become a 'tier 5' bio.

And your bio, can be your vision.
Not a pre-wrapped package that you punch out of a vending machine.

WW fights could be good for this, thematically and functionally.

NGL I feel this, I want to just focus on build on my Lena bio - not save up for a 6 paths naruto or Kaguya etc. Though tbf i think the RP is heading in that direction now, just slowly

 

[Alternative]

One thing I don't quite understand about the Witchwood Arena is the purpose. It looks as if it's just an all-out battle system which kind of already exists in the battle arena. Also, given the current rewards, an example being smoke or puppetry for winning four fights in a row, isn't exactly the most enticing prize. In direct contrast, someone could just pass an A-Rank mission, or win two fights in the BA to get the subsequent kumi needed for those prizes.

Also building on what Scaze said, I think it'd be cool to have some kind of reward for sticking to your character's narrative, style or story. Are you a headstrong ninja that focuses on taijutsu? Use that and you get rewarded for it. But if you're sitting here using genjutsu and massive walls of fire, you're not getting anything for it. I feel like making rewards for trying to create a narrative around the fight. I'm only saying this because the NW is supposed to be more of a story-driven expedition, and having a BA style arena feels contradictory.

 

[Drackos]

One thing I don't quite understand about the Witchwood Arena is the purpose. It looks as if it's just an all-out battle system which kind of already exists in the battle arena. Also, given the current rewards, an example being smoke or puppetry for winning four fights in a row, isn't exactly the most enticing prize. In direct contrast, someone could just pass an A-Rank mission, or win two fights in the BA to get the subsequent kumi needed for those prizes.

Also building on what Scaze said, I think it'd be cool to have some kind of reward for sticking to your character's narrative, style or story. Are you a headstrong ninja that focuses on taijutsu? Use that and you get rewarded for it. But if you're sitting here using genjutsu and massive walls of fire, you're not getting anything for it. I feel like making rewards for trying to create a narrative around the fight. I'm only saying this because the NW is supposed to be more of a story-driven expedition, and having a BA style arena feels contradictory.

Well, I won't talk on the prizes. I mentioned that in an earlier post; and that's why prizes are going to be reorganized. That said, the reason Witchwood is different from the BA is because it's featured in the NW. I don't know if its a cultural thing among the RP or what, but by and large the NW is taken to be 'serious' while the BA is just to mess around in typically. The NW is where things happen, essentially. And there really is no mechanic in the BA that is quite like Witchwood.

 

[Drackos]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest something that's personally motivated by a gripe that I have.
For years I've been an enthusiast for a select few abilities, but each time I come back to the RP I end up feeling like that's a massive setback instead of a reward.
For a solid three years now I've been hearing it constantly - 'get a better bio'. Thing is, I don't want a 'better' bio, I want my bio. I made this bio for a reason - and that reason is that it's mine. My stuff. My style. My vision.
To me, that's what matters most, but I don't want to suffer for it. However, pragmatism demands that if there's a ceiling, I bail out and start working towards a bio that won't make me suffer...
And what does that entail? Farming kumi for a Six Paths bio or CoT?

I care for neither, but it would be silly for me not to when they offer the raw stats and power ceiling that paves the way back to the top of meta competitive.

And before you say customs...been there. Done that. It doesn't work. They get changed, limitations are set, you're arbitrarily barred from exploring avenues that are supported by the manga and should be open to you, or maybe you even get trolled by the manga itself, and when all is said and done you'll get a pat on the back and told that 'This is as far as it goes'

It's a shit feeling, and I'm tired of it. If this is some new era for the RP, and new era for the NW, then I don't see why it isn't facilitating a new era so that no ability, no matter how low a tier or canonically underdeveloped it is, is left obsolete in the face of tier 5.


Of course, this shouldn't come free. And it shouldn't come on a silver platter. But, in the right hands, small changes can lead to much, much bigger things, and I think that should be better supported.
There seems to be this massive Mod list of 'shit that's not allowed' - for whatever reason - but I propose that that list is taken, and introduced as acquirable traits or perks that can be worked towards in the RP - just as we can currently work towards tier 5 bios themselves.

Off the top of my head, examples would be things like;
Animals being able to consume pills
Additional/stronger custom breeds for Inuzuka/Aburamae
Liquid/gaseous steel
Blast that can work beyond contact, either through custom mediums or in the way Drackos had it set up before.
+30 to an affinity


And whatever, else, I'm sure the list could be extensive and allot for a variety of pre-set, and even user-submitted options.
But the end goal would be that, with the right set up, the right approach, a steady work towards and the right decisions, any bio can become a 'tier 5' bio.

And your bio, can be your vision.
Not a pre-wrapped package that you punch out of a vending machine.

WW fights could be good for this, thematically and functionally.

Blast-chan 2016 best blast-chan.

 

[Bloo]

The real prizes are the friends we make along the way.

 

[Zatanna]

What if you made it something lile who ever had the most wins in an arc gets the top prize, like a king of the hill. Prizes can be something lile Yin or Yang, nothing over the top exclusive so that there is more of an incentive for people that dont have it can go for it, where as those with yin or yang already dont really need to go for it.

Personally if kumi is added to those that lose a battle, Id like to see the same thing for missions. Getting the appropriate reward for a failed mission, whether the idea that someone who writes and S or A rank has only written the appropriate amount for a B rank, at least they tried to go for a higher ranked mission.

 

[System001]

Blast-chan 2016 best blast-chan.

2016 was a good year lmao

 

[Drackos]

2016 was a good year lmao

I'll look into your ideas and see if others are open to them. These would be longer changes though.

 

[System001]

I'll look into your ideas and see if others are open to them. These would be longer changes though.

I can imagine. Thanks

 

[Never]

What if you made it something lile who ever had the most wins in an arc gets the top prize, like a king of the hill. Prizes can be something lile Yin or Yang, nothing over the top exclusive so that there is more of an incentive for people that dont have it can go for it, where as those with yin or yang already dont really need to go for it.

Personally if kumi is added to those that lose a battle, Id like to see the same thing for missions. Getting the appropriate reward for a failed mission, whether the idea that someone who writes and S or A rank has only written the appropriate amount for a B rank, at least they tried to go for a higher ranked mission.

The issue there is everyone would just submit S-rank missions hoping it gets approved as S-Rank

 

[Drackos]

Okay so far I've gathered about Witchwood Arena:

-Reorganize prizes
-Rotating rules

Anything else?

And no, I'm not asking about custom rouge groups.

 

[Zatanna]

i do like the idea of more custom rewards, whether it be unqiue artifacts, or custom abilities.
The idea that you could win a passive +30 boost to your own specialization is cool, something like a unique specialty.
"+30 to all cc techniques"

Can you give us any details on the artifact rework? Will current artifacts need to be resubmitted?

 

[Never]

Okay so far I've gathered about Witchwood Arena:

-Reorganize prizes
-Rotating rules

Anything else?

And no, I'm not asking about custom rouge groups.

*puts my psuedo akatsuki in my pocket*

 

[Zatanna]

While I know its a small target at the moment, I wouldnt mind seeing some custom objectives or rewards for prestige bios. Eg how it speaks of resubbing a ce or cc or even other rewards.

 

[Urda]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest something that's personally motivated by a gripe that I have.
For years I've been an enthusiast for a select few abilities, but each time I come back to the RP I end up feeling like that's a massive setback instead of a reward.
For a solid three years now I've been hearing it constantly - 'get a better bio'. Thing is, I don't want a 'better' bio, I want my bio. I made this bio for a reason - and that reason is that it's mine. My stuff. My style. My vision.
To me, that's what matters most, but I don't want to suffer for it. However, pragmatism demands that if there's a ceiling, I bail out and start working towards a bio that won't make me suffer...
And what does that entail? Farming kumi for a Six Paths bio or CoT?

I care for neither, but it would be silly for me not to when they offer the raw stats and power ceiling that paves the way back to the top of meta competitive.

And before you say customs...been there. Done that. It doesn't work. They get changed, limitations are set, you're arbitrarily barred from exploring avenues that are supported by the manga and should be open to you, or maybe you even get trolled by the manga itself, and when all is said and done you'll get a pat on the back and told that 'This is as far as it goes'

It's a shit feeling, and I'm tired of it. If this is some new era for the RP, and new era for the NW, then I don't see why it isn't facilitating a new era so that no ability, no matter how low a tier or canonically underdeveloped it is, is left obsolete in the face of tier 5.


Of course, this shouldn't come free. And it shouldn't come on a silver platter. But, in the right hands, small changes can lead to much, much bigger things, and I think that should be better supported.
There seems to be this massive Mod list of 'shit that's not allowed' - for whatever reason - but I propose that that list is taken, and introduced as acquirable traits or perks that can be worked towards in the RP - just as we can currently work towards tier 5 bios themselves.

Off the top of my head, examples would be things like;
Animals being able to consume pills
Additional/stronger custom breeds for Inuzuka/Aburamae
Liquid/gaseous steel
Blast that can work beyond contact, either through custom mediums or in the way Drackos had it set up before.
+30 to an affinity


And whatever, else, I'm sure the list could be extensive and allot for a variety of pre-set, and even user-submitted options.
But the end goal would be that, with the right set up, the right approach, a steady work towards and the right decisions, any bio can become a 'tier 5' bio.

And your bio, can be your vision.
Not a pre-wrapped package that you punch out of a vending machine.

WW fights could be good for this, thematically and functionally.

[BOLD] Huh? Ceiling? Bail Out? Sounds like you are giving up instead of trying to break the Ceiling?

[Underline} We can only go off Manga logic though. Through y'all exploring, you started exploiting ways to 'break the game' which is why restrictions were placed. You guys were trying to be Gods.

[RED] You cannot change Steel into a gas because the science says so. However, you can create "Liquid Steel" using Fire Release as the bases, but it got to make sense though (I assume).

 

[Drackos]

Most artifacts are going to get phased out over time. They almost all turned into custom weapons, and I'm not a fan of how that played out. It's mostly my fault, and some early decisions that were made that put them on this course. So I'm changing it. In the future artifacts will be named something else, while actual artifacts will remain as rare rewards.

It's gonna upset some people, I imagine. But in the long term it's going to make artifacts more rewarding, more unique, and it'll make what I originally wanted 'artifacts' to be to actually make sense for the Ninja World. Rather than just another Custom Weapon.

 

[Zatanna]

[BOLD] Huh? Ceiling? Bail Out? Sounds like you are giving up instead of trying to break the Ceiling?

[Underline} We can only go off Manga logic though. Through y'all exploring, you started exploiting ways to 'break the game' which is why restrictions were placed. You guys were trying to be Gods.

[RED] You cannot change Steel into a gas because the science says so. However, you can create "Liquid Steel" using Fire Release as the bases, but it got to make sense though (I assume).

Thats only if youre thinking by hard scientific logic but the anine can make other stuff happen. Best example is storm release deacribed as "lightning that flows like water" so elements can be given different proporties or matter states

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So artifacts were mainly meant to be lile supplementary things, like the old akatsuki rings? Or is that wrong.

Man i hope my cloak was ok.....