[VS] KCM Naruto vs EMS Sasuke

[BlackFlame44]

im basing it off his ems abilities can see through clones he never said he seen thru them without ems or its never been noted also when he put down that hashirama he couldn't see thru that clone

That was for Madara not sasuke

 

[KidGamer65]

im basing it off his ems abilities can see through clones he never said he seen thru them without ems or its never been noted also when he put down that hashirama he couldn't see thru that clone

It was never said he needed EMS to see through clones either, his sentence and how frequent his battles with Hashirama were imply that he didn't need EMS. Unless you are telling me he was only able to see through Hashirama's clones in one battle.

I hope you aren't talking about VoTE? Cause his Sharingan wasn't active.

 

[BlackFlame44]

don't think so, naruto's clones can be countered with this

You must be registered for see images

and saying naruto can dodge isn't necessarily true, he has trouble moving at full speed, which would leave him vulnerable to death. And his reaction feats aren't really spectacular. Notice the Raikage tells naruto explicitly when he is going to attack

You must be registered for see images

On the contrary sasuke takes this mid to high diff

You just compared chunin-jonin level zestu clones to Kage one shotting Kcm clones

 

[End of Days]

the point is he has the same eyes, and madara says it was due to his eyes. he may be able to do it with a regular sharingan

if he really can see through clones then he shouldnt be shocked or surprised when itachi got stabbed

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

his expression changes after itachi's clone explodes

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

 

[Optimistic]

the arms can come from anywhere from the body, that was an example, lifting the arm is not necessary, its just like danzo growing a tree out of his body

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

The arrow would still push Naruto back or pierce the palm of his chakra hand with ease.

the arrows are too fast for hand seals, not this. We dont know whether the kunais have lesser piercing power or greater of equal but look at the impact on the ground when the kunais fall

The arrows go at higher speeds than that Kunai Obito used, the faster the piercing object is the better it is at piercing.
KCM Naruto has good sensing but him being able to react to such a move doesn't click with me.even if he uses this method it'll leave Naruto wide open for another arrow/enton arrow or amaterasu either way arrows will hit when Naruto's charging up his FRS.

 

[slimreaper]

You just compared chunin-jonin level zestu clones to Kage one shotting Kcm clones

I still don't think naruto can always dodge enton magatama due do the thing posted above. I didn't say it would be as effective as it was on the zetsu

 

[Microsword57]

Sasuke Uchiha.

 

[Optimistic]

Sasuke Uchiha.

Is that all you say in Vs threads?

 

[Unorthodox]

It was never said he needed EMS to see through clones either, his sentence and how frequent his battles with Hashirama were imply that he didn't need EMS. Unless you are telling me he was only able to see through Hashirama's clones in one battle.

I hope you aren't talking about VoTE? Cause his Sharingan wasn't active.

its isnt a coincidence that madara is the only uchiha who can see thru clones in he's the only one that had ems in history sasuke also has ems we will find out soon if im right

BTW i ended this debate

 

[Microsword57]

Is that all you say in Vs threads?

I was asked who I thought would win, but usually I say who I think would win, wait until someone says " can you back up your decisions" or something along those lines and then I explain why. Sadly, in this thread there is barely anything I would need to say that hasn't been said. I was actually hoping in the Mu thread that people would keep posting cause that's something I would enjoy debating about. To Answer your question, No.

 

[AGoodBoy]

if he really can see through clones then he shouldnt be shocked or surprised when itachi got stabbed

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

his expression changes after itachi's clone explodes

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

thhhat was a crow clone. Itachi makes those on the fly upon receiving damage, otherwise where was his real body? Exactly. He just subs out bushins instantly without notice. You won't know it's a bushin because it's actually him until crows fly out.

 

[Optimistic]

I was asked who I thought would win, but usually I say who I think would win, wait until someone says " can you back up your decisions" or something along those lines and then I explain why. Sadly, in this thread there is barely anything I would need to say that hasn't been said. I was actually hoping in the Mu thread that people would keep posting cause that's something I would enjoy debating about. To Answer your question, No.

Ok good to know.=D

 

[Microsword57]

Ok good to know.=D

=DCool. I debated a little on the Sasuke vs Gaara.

 

[MickNerks]

Naruto takes this with mid diff.

We have to take into account what naruto has on his side:

• Sensing abilities which will allow him to see where sasuke is coming from.
• And cloak that is immune to fire and has tanked everything it has come in contact with.
• Enhance strength and speed
• Rasengans and mini Bijuu dama's
• Summons
• Clones
• 10-20x the chakra reserves of sasuke.

Amaterasu/Enton

Is not a problem for naruto, becuase even if amaterasu come into contact with him or his clones, he would easily be able to push it off with his cloak. His cloak makes all fire techinques useless, including Enton and Amaterasu because of how slow it burns and naruto's ability to remove it from his body quite easily.


Close Combat

This is one of the last things sasuke wants to do, as it was stated earlier in the manga that sasuke's sharingan cant keep up with naruto's chakra arms and naruto at the same time. With naruto's speed being enhance again this would just be a enhance version of when sasuke fought v1 naruto in taijutsu.

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

You must be registered for see images

Susanoo

Susanoo will be wreaked by 20 mini-TBB as the destructive power of one is massive.

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

And the beauty with KM naruto is that he doesnt have to be in close range to do it. He could use his Chakra arms to make it a long range attack to allow from a assualt in every direction.

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

Enton Arrow/Sword

This wont be a problem as naruto can clearly see and sense when sasuke will be using this techinque.
To block it he could simply use his chakra arms (Multiple ones) in a form of a shield, or simply create a large OODAMA rasengan to block it and send it to sasuke.

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

You must be registered for see images

Summon

If this is refering to current naruto, but just only using his Kyuubi Mode then summons could actually play a good role in the battle. If naruto summons Gamahiro, Gamaiken, or Gamakichi he could apply a kyuubi cloak to them as naruto has mastered the art of chakra transfer, and if they are hit with amaterasu naruto can himself control there shroud to remove the flames. This also would increase their power and strength making it difficult for sasuke to defend against 20 clones and 1-3 toad giant summons, as even his snake would be at a disadvantage if they have a cloak.



There are other things I could get into but i think its very obvious that naruto in KM takes sasuke w/ mid diff.​

 

[genii96]

Sasuke wins this. Enton magatamas would counter any FRS,and it would even make his magatamas bigger. Km naruto only senses negative emotions,he dosent sense like sm naruto,so the amaterasu dodging part isnt fully acurate.
also naruto moves in a linear manner too,thus a sharingan can see his movement.

For goodness sake,BM naruto uses tbb,not kcm naruto

 

[Optimistic]

@ MickDerp

20 tbb my ass, Naruto's only summoned 11 clones stop exaggerating the amount of clones he can make.

 

[KidGamer65]

Lmao @ Mini TBB even putting a scratch on Susanoo. Itachi's V2 was able to block Kirin albeit it being destroyed in the end. No FRS bar Oodama FRS has a chance of even harming a Final EMS Susanoo. Not when that Susanoo is 3 levels above the one that blocked Kirin, a stronger attack than FRS.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Lmao @ Mini TBB even putting a scratch on Susanoo. Itachi's V2 was able to block Kirin albeit it being destroyed in the end. No FRS bar Oodama FRS has a chance of even harming a Final EMS Susanoo. Not when that Susanoo is 3 levels above the one that blocked Kirin, a stronger attack than FRS.

It's not as if the Oodama FRS can't be used by the 12 KAGE level clones.

 

[genii96]

It's not as if the Oodama FRS can't be used by the 12 KAGE level clones.

oodama FRS iis used by BM naruto not kcm naruto. Out of all the clones he made only one was kage level,edo kimimaro and chiyo beat one of them,black zetsu side stepped another and it hit a tree,the rest just beat zetsu clones.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

oodama FRS iis used by BM naruto not kcm naruto.

What weed you smokin, son?