[VS] KCM Naruto vs EMS Sasuke

[pateuvasiliu]

toads die the second they're summoned. and the myth that naruto can dodge anything due to speed needs to stop. he CANNOT move at those speeds for extended periods of time

He sure as hell can dodge Amaterasu for as long as he wants to.

 

[Prince Charles]

Im sorry but the toads aren't dodging enton if the 8 tails didn't. and naruto isn't just moving at blurring speeds at all times so the battlefield won't be easy to process

Funny thing is that wasnt enton that sasuke used on the 8 tails that was amaterasu. Enton is much slower. As I said sasuke will not know the difference between the clones let alone keep track of all their movements.

 

[Unorthodox]

Don't see how they die instantly considering sasuke will also have 20 kcm clones on him and it will be hard on sasukes part to keep track of everything. Toads have shown great jump feats and somewhat noteworthy speed feats just so you know, so I don't see Aoda being invulnerable to the toads. Sasuke can't tell the differnce between clowns as far as I'm aware of so for all he knows he can shoot a enton arrow are a kcm clone which is highly unlikely when you factor in their speed.

Naruto's speed isnt like A's naruto hasit shown to use his speed like minato or A all the time sasuke can see thru clones with ems same as madara Also Amaterasu hits them Any summing is useless genjutsu Amaterasu Sasuke could easily make an enton wall like he did with kabuto naruto sky attacks are uselss .

I wouldnt say the toads have no reaction time feats. Gamabunta successfully evade shukaku's wind blast[

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] not a moment too soon and followed up with a suiton[

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]. Even with the sharigan I doubt he will be capable of keep tracking of 20+ clones that have great or equal speed to Ay.

20 clones you keep saying keeping track he doesnt need to when he turns the battlefield to enton note he can use kirin very quickly now naruto has no way of winning this

 

[xcoyote]

Naruto's speed isnt like A's naruto hasit shown to use his speed like minato or A all the time sasuke can see thru clones with ems same as madara Also Amaterasu hits them Any summing is useless genjutsu Amaterasu Sasuke could easily make an enton wall like he did with kabuto naruto sky attacks are uselss .

20 clones you keep saying keeping track he doesnt need to when he turns the battlefield to enton note he can use kirin very quickly now naruto has no way of winning this

@bold enough wank for today,dont you think?

 

[slimreaper]

Funny thing is that wasnt enton that sasuke used on the 8 tails that was amaterasu. Enton is much slower. As I said sasuke will not know the difference between the clones let alone keep track of all their movements.

the enton arrow is still pretty fast. and if sasuke doesn't know the difference he will be force to kill indiscriminately

 

[slimreaper]

He sure as hell can dodge Amaterasu for as long as he wants to.

naruto will be on fire before his dumb ass notices. and he can't move at full speeds all the time and still attack so he loses

 

[Prince Charles]

Naruto's speed isnt like A's naruto hasit shown to use his speed like minato or A all the time sasuke can see thru clones with ems same as madara Also Amaterasu hits them Any summing is useless genjutsu Amaterasu Sasuke could easily make an enton wall like he did with kabuto naruto sky attacks are uselss .

Oh? Show me a scan of where it saids sasukes EMS can see through clones? You say naruto's speed isn't like Ay's but that isnt the case here when we see him blitz kisame[

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Now you assume Amaterasu will be capable of hitting the clones which isnt the case here when you take into factor of their speed.

So sasuke will genjutsu multiple toads? Im also assuming you think he has unlimited chakra reserves as well?

20 clones you keep saying keeping track he doesnt need to when he turns the battlefield to enton note he can use kirin very quickly now naruto has no way of winning this

You say he will turn the field into enton which works both ways, the entire battlefield in enton will also limit sasukes movements and Aoda's. Not to menion I see no reason why the clones can't simply use chakra arms as way to grip on to something outside the radius of the enton..

 

[slimreaper]

You say he will turn the field into enton which works both ways, the entire battlefield in enton will also limit sasukes movements and Aoda's. Not to menion I see no reason why the clones can't simply use chakra arms as way to grip on to something outside the radius of the enton..[/QUOTE]

sasuke can touch enton with his bare hand. but i don't think he need to enton the battlefield just fire magatama at naruto's clones while riding aoda.

 

[H8OnItachi]

Oh? Show me a scan of where it saids sasukes EMS can see through clones? You say naruto's speed isn't like Ay's but that isnt the case here when we see him blitz kisame[

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Now you assume Amaterasu will be capable of hitting the clones which isnt the case here when you take into factor of their speed.

So sasuke will genjutsu multiple toads? Im also assuming you think he has unlimited chakra reserves as well?

First of all, im pointng out 2 mistakes on both debating sides: 1. NO, Fuuton Odama FRS is not getting past a Lvl 4 susanoo, if we take into account that a Lvl 2 was tanking (sorta) a Kirin, which far exceeds the FRS in destructive power, then the Odama version would be only touching the surface of a Lvl 3, a complete susanoo is tickled.

2. The clones ARE capable of evading amaterasu, a Lvl 1 A could avoid Ama via shunshin, KCM naruto outsped a Lvl 2 A, ergo, evading ama is something naruto already has at its favor.

That said, if people are arguing that naruto can take on sasuke via quantity and not quality theres a mistake there. While 20 clones may not hold 1/20 of the original naruto's strength, theyre still quite weaker, therefore naruto cannot make multiple (4+) Odama FRS at the same time. For equation purposes, lets say naruto can make 4 clones while mantaining sufficient chakra to make FRS with each of them at the same time.

Of course im not forgetting sasuke has little chakra reserves when compared to nruto, and he cant mantain a Lvl 4 susanoo withing a large period of time w/o losing a lot of stamina, EMS or not. However, its not necessary too much time to distract the set of clones, firing Yasaka Magatamas will get them out of the forming of FRS, not to mention in the case of a clash ANY version of enton wins against the variants of FRS naruto has.

You say he will turn the field into enton which works both ways, the entire battlefield in enton will also limit sasukes movements and Aoda's. Not to menion I see no reason why the clones can't simply use chakra arms as way to grip on to something outside the radius of the enton..

Well, into the summons, between genjutsu, Aoda, and Enton arrows (which seem to have a much better precision and wouldnt alter Aoda's moves), none of the frogs have really a chance outside of overpowering him out of quantity, this is where sasuke just fires continuous Yasaka Magatamas killing the frogs.

Taijutsu wise, its kinda obvious Naruto has it, and its even more obvious it matters for ****, susanoo's ribcage takes anything naruto fires at chort distance and getting close to it means the Enton chield has him. Ninjutsu wise, Sasuke has it, his Enton variants overpower Naruto's most powerful variants of rasengan and w/o TBB spam, he isnt getting past a Lvl 4 susanoo. Finally Genjutsu is for sasuke obv, not that it matters since naruto can snap out of it, but it helps him at mantaning the frogs at bay.

Mid- high diff for sasuke.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

a Lvl 2 was tanking (sorta) a Kirin, which far exceeds the FRS in destructive power

An Oodama FRS is more or less comparable to Kirin, so no.

A normal FRS made this crater

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and the Oodama FRS is -AT LEAST- 10 times bigger. It is as big as Gamakichi, whom in turn is as big as his father, whom is as big as Shukaku.

 

[Unorthodox]

Oh? Show me a scan of where it saids sasukes EMS can see through clones? You say naruto's speed isn't like Ay's but that isnt the case here when we see him blitz kisame[

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Now you assume Amaterasu will be capable of hitting the clones which isnt the case here when you take into factor of their speed.

So sasuke will genjutsu multiple toads? Im also assuming you think he has unlimited chakra reserves as well?



You say he will turn the field into enton which works both ways, the entire battlefield in enton will also limit sasukes movements and Aoda's. Not to menion I see no reason why the clones can't simply use chakra arms as way to grip on to something outside the radius of the enton..

Madara made the clone thing obviously clear he said he was the only to see through hashirama clones & when he came to the battle with naruto he knew it was a clone yet obito didnt because he has ms sasuke is the 2nd ems user in history madara perks with being so legendary doesnt have anything to do with him seeing thru clones its because his ems .

sasuke controlls enton it would'nt restrict his movements at all his chakra reservers are big enough to take out naruto also naruto isnt blocking or evading kirin once sasuke controlls one frog naruto will most likely tell them to poof since they would be on sasuke side also His ems makes amaterasu faster & you think naruto's going to dodge amaterasu when he has never seen its speed or know when to react likely sasuke shits here

 

[Unorthodox]

An Oodama FRS is more or less comparable to Kirin, so no.

A normal FRS made this crater

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and the Oodama FRS is -AT LEAST- 10 times bigger. It is as big as Gamakichi, whom in turn is as big as his father, whom is as big as Shukaku.

Gamakichi was half bunta's size because he was only half katsuya body and tsunade had the other half of katsuya

 

[BlackFlame44]

The wank is strong in slimreaper

 

[johnnyindigo]

Madara made the clone thing obviously clear he said he was the only to see through hashirama clones & when he came to the battle with naruto he knew it was a clone yet obito didnt because he has ms sasuke is the 2nd ems user in history madara perks with being so legendary doesnt have anything to do with him seeing thru clones its because his ems .

sasuke controlls enton it would'nt restrict his movements at all his chakra reservers are big enough to take out naruto also naruto isnt blocking or evading kirin once sasuke controlls one frog naruto will most likely tell them to poof since they would be on sasuke side also His ems makes amaterasu faster & you think naruto's going to dodge amaterasu when he has never seen its speed or know when to react likely sasuke shits here

Please show me scan where it says ems allows you to see through perfectly identicl clones
Please show me a scan where it says ems makes amaterasu faster
Naruto in fact has seen amaterasu....
Sasuke has not shown to be able to control ANY frogs, and kirin on which naruto? Could be a clone

 

[TheLastHokage216]

50 sage mode clones 10 bijuu mode clones 5 kcm clones....OP even fo anybody. Dnt even have to b specific on combat Naruto wins mid diff and sasukes best susanoo cant tank a full power kcm tbb period his susanoo is not perfect we seen that they can b cracked by taijustu n i recall gais hirado or wat broke thru madaras low level susanoo

 

[slimreaper]

The wank is strong in slimreaper

why because I don't thinks sasuke stands around like an idiot while naruto's clones run all over him? all sasuke has to do is keep moving on aoda, defend him when necessary and keep the offensive pressure on naruto and he should win. naruto is clearly out fire powered in this fight