Kakashi vs Sasuke

[EZQ]

I forgot to quote that, IF THIS IS BLOOD LUSTED KAKASHI, HE WARPS SASUKE AWAY

Kakashi CAN warp a whole susanoo (i've prooved it) and he doesn't need to, kakashi's kamui is faster than sasuke activating susanoo

 

[Unorthodox]

If everyone read the manga carefully, they'd know that Danzo is just about > The NV.

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sasuke thinks otherwise

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

I suddenly have this odd fetish for you.

And on that note, I'm out of here.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Yeah, because Sasuke can activate Susano'o quicker than Kamui. Because Susano'o in its entirety can't be warped either.

IC Kakashi gets brushed aside. But a Bloodlusted Kamui user ready to use the Mangekyō right off the bat?

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Hmm, but couldn't Sasuke one shot with Amaterasu? Wouldn't it come down to who would use it first? And before I hear "he can kamui it off", he won't be able to if his eye's getting molested by black flames.

 

[Bogard]

because he could toe 2 toe with them doesnt mean anything about his feats oro fought 4 and pain fought six tails

Oro's feat was impressive indeed but it was against just one V2 when Kakashi and Gai were facing 6of them. Concerning Pain though, i don't remember him facing 6tails in close combat. So far i know he was always avoiding it or using Shinra tensei or Chibaku tensei, so what's the point?

there speed is average.

Average speed that not even KM Naruto and Hachibi could handle, yeah right

urm didnt obito step into the darkness

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we couldnt see if the flames were there or not

True but i supposed it should not be there of Kishimoto should have mentioned it somehow

 

[EZQ]

Kakashi warped deidara's explosion even when he used 2 kamuis before that.

Also, kakashi can waro 1/3 of the hachibi as the manga stated, and 1/3 of the hachibi is larger than a susanoo, si if the question is if kakashi can warp a whole susanoo, the answer is yes he can.

If the question is, can kakashi use kamui faster than sasuke activates his MS, the answer is yes he can.

If kakashi isn't bloodlusted and he doesn't activate MS right away, the result is dead kakashi

 

[Unorthodox]

Yeah, because Sasuke can activate Susano'o quicker than Kamui. Because Susano'o in its entirety can't be warped either.

IC Kakashi gets brushed aside. But a Bloodlusted Kamui user ready to use the Mangekyō right off the bat?

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dont overrate kakashi sasuke susanoo has been shown to be instant on numerous occasions

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quick kamuies are arnt big enough to warp susanoo hole even he cant use susanoo he cast ama on his face making it a draw about time kakashi trys to make a kamui big enough to swallow susanoo he uses magatamas

 

[Minator93]

I can't ****ing believe this shit.

Kakashi Hatake is Literally

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, The Real

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!!

His Kamui is invincible!! Obito who Shits on Sasuke [with hands tied around his back] in the heat of battle failed against Kakashi's Kamui!!

Manga and the Mangaka >>>>>> You U_U

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Everyone says Itachi > Sasuke then how about

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??

 

[OnPoint]

Hmm, but couldn't Sasuke one shot with Amaterasu? Wouldn't it come down to who would use it first? And before I hear "he can kamui it off", he won't be able to if his eye's getting molested by black flames.

> Amaterasu isn't an insta-kill
> If it molests his eyeball; i've seen eyeballs resist getting crushed by boulders whereas i've seen those slow burning black flames fail to char Obito's clothes, burn Karin's skin etc
> Amaterasu off the bat would be for a bloodlusted Sasuke, no? I didn't say anything about Sasuke being of this mindset

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[EZQ]

Kakashi can warp a whole susanoo ^^^

 

[Unorthodox]

Oro's feat was impressive indeed but it was against just one V2 when Kakashi and Gai were facing 6of them. Concerning Pain though, i don't remember him facing 6tails in close combat. So far i know he was always avoiding it or using Shinra tensei or Chibaku tensei, so what's the point?

Average speed that not even KM Naruto and Hachibi could handle, yeah right

True but i supposed it should not be there of Kishimoto should have mentioned it somehow

okay but whatever we seen sasuke blind outa shape and brused badly go toe 2 toe in taijutsu with kakashi who was using his 3 tomoe at the time he didnt even use sharingan also km naruto & hachibi bee was more overwhelmed then speed blitz

 

[Bogard]

dont overrate kakashi sasuke susanoo has been shown to be instant on numerous occasions

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quick kamuies are arnt big enough to warp susanoo hole even he cant use susanoo he cast ama on his face making it a draw about time kakashi trys to make a kamui big enough to swallow susanoo he uses magatamas

He already had Susanoo activated on the pic you mention.

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So he only powered-up it

Furthermore, the speed of the magatamas have shown to be relatively slow(comparable to launching normal shurikens), more than enough for Kakashi to put a wall like he did to protect himself against speed-up large kamui-shurikens from Obito

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

I can't ****ing believe this shit.

Kakashi Hatake is Literally

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, The Real

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!!

His Kamui is invincible!! Obito who Shits on Sasuke [with hands tied around his back] in the heat of battle failed against Kakashi's Kamui!!

Manga and the Mangaka >>>>>> You U_U

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Everyone says Itachi > Sasuke then how about

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??

I don't mean to shit on Kishi's words or anything, but the Databook has contradicted itslef too many times to be taken into account, on MOST parts anyways.

1st Databook: Kiba is as fast as Lee?

2nd Databook: Hiruzen is the strongest hokage?

3rd Databook: Amaterasu is as hot as the sun?

And of course Obito will struggle more with Kakashi. Obito's fighting style REVOLVES around Kamui, and that's pretty much ineffective against Kakashi, as he has it as well. It's all about match ups man.

 

[OnPoint]

@unorthodox, don't be foolish. Sasuke isn't erecting his complete Susano'o faster than a bloodlusted Kakashi is using his Kamui. At best, it'll have time to 'charge up' like it did against the Zetsu [

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]. Unless you're saying that Susano'o can be brought forth faster than the two Susano'o arrows which Kakashi already warped? Kamui has been implied to be fast enough to warp even Minato, who is among the best in terms of both reflexes and possession of fast activating Jutsu (Hiraishin).

 

[BlacLord™]

Sasuke is a prodigy.
He's proficient in ninjutsu.
And has powerful chakra not large.
Just slightly higher chakra than kakashi.
(databook)
Has EMS.
His taijutsu is great but not near kakashi.
In terms of speed kakashi beats him.
However in pure strength he beats kakashi.
Being able to lift sakura by the neck after being exhausted from fighting from danzo.
Even sakura thought he must of tooken drugs to enhance his strength .
Genjustu he beats kakashi.
Kakashi just has the average genjutsu trick.
But sasuke tsukyomi is below than itachi.


Between these powerhouses who do you think would win.

He has large and powerful amounts of chakra, being able to spam Mangekyou techniques, use Fire Release at 7 years old despite Kakashi saying that even Genin usually don't have enough chakra.

Kakashi has displayed no impressive speed feats, whereas Sasuke has shown a plethora of speed feats.

Kakashi has impressive strength, being able to wield Kubikiribouchou pretty easily.

The original question: Sasuke. With EMS, he becomes top tier, I don't see Kakashi evading Amaterasu, as only Ay, with LRA on full dodging it.

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

> Amaterasu isn't an insta-kill
> If it molests his eyeball; i've seen eyeballs resist getting crushed by boulders whereas i've seen those slow burning black flames fail to char Obito's clothes, burn Karin's skin etc
> Amaterasu off the bat would be for a bloodlusted Sasuke, no? I didn't say anything about Sasuke being of this mindset

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-It isn't an instant kill, but it would stop Kakashi from using Kamui. Especially since it's attacking an organ as fragile as the eyeball. Also, I'm fairly sure Amaterasu, arguable the strongest ninjutsu (don't quote me on this, I said maybe) would do more damage than a boulder.
- I'm pretty sure Obito used Izanagi in that instance
-I guess so, but we have to consider both accounts here. Having a IC Sasuke go up agianst a bloodlusted Kakashi isn't a fair match up.

 

[Unorthodox]

I can't ****ing believe this shit.

Kakashi Hatake is Literally

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, The Real

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!!

His Kamui is invincible!! Obito who Shits on Sasuke [with hands tied around his back] in the heat of battle failed against Kakashi's Kamui!!

Manga and the Mangaka >>>>>> You U_U

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Everyone says Itachi > Sasuke then how about

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??

sasuke>itachi>kakashi it wont matter kamui does have defenses speed ftg kamui izanagi yata mirror susanoo

> Amaterasu isn't an insta-kill
> If it molests his eyeball; i've seen eyeballs resist getting crushed by boulders whereas i've seen those slow burning black flames fail to char Obito's clothes, burn Karin's skin etc
> Amaterasu off the bat would be for a bloodlusted Sasuke, no? I didn't say anything about Sasuke being of this mindset

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kamui isnt a insta kill eithere we have no idea how obito got ama off him i think kage bushin or log.
karin back was brused sasuke uses ama & susanoo off the bat no need for bloodlusted he used magatams on weaklings such as zetsu used susanoo at the start of him and danzo fight dont pull that card. i see that your very one sided ama burned nagato arms and ribs off burnt thru toad mouth trap in instant also burned hachibi back to bee in seconds


As Kidgamer always said ama burns faster when the user is focus

 

[Minator93]

This will never happen in actual fight [i.e. Kakashi getting hit by Amaterasu] but Kakashi can counter even that!!

He can Kamui the flames.

Now a smartass would say what happens if Kakashi gets hit on the back or hair or something that his Left Eye can't reach, well Kakashi has answer even for that

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A clone can do anything the original can U_U Heck with this Kakashi can SPAM Kamui from multiple points.

There's no way Sasuke is winning this one.

The Solo Emperor

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[Mypower]

This will never happen in actual fight [i.e. Kakashi getting hit by Amaterasu] but Kakashi can counter even that!!

He can Kamui the flames.

Now a smartass would say what happens if Kakashi gets hit on the back or hair or something that his Left Eye can't reach, well Kakashi has answer even for that

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A clone can do anything the original can U_U Heck with this Kakashi can SPAM Kamui from multiple points.

There's no way Sasuke is winning this one.

The Solo Emperor

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Exactly
Proved so many times that kakashi is stronger than sasuke.

 

[Yatori]

Kakashi wins :hooray: