Kakashi vs Sasuke

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Lol @bugsniffer

Kakashi is always at 3T, meaning he has to ACTIVATE MS himself.
Sasuke, in recent chapters has been shown to jump straight into MS, while his eyes were normal.

So there's no chance of Kakashi just kamui'ing Sasuke out of the blue, before Sasuke can do anything.

Remeber when kakashi activated his MS to kamui his susanoo arrow .
It took kakashi less than 9/10ths of a second to activate his MS.
Which is faster than sasuke.
 

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That's not even a fair fight

Sasuke will rape

Kakashi couldn't defeat Sasuke when Sasuke was even blind
Did he want to? That's the biggest question. Cuz so far i remember he didn't and was even trying to bring him back to reason. There is a clear difference in mindset between the Kakashi against Sasuke and the one against Tobi nearly some seconds after when he wanted to kamui in his the other dimension without even questioning him
 

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Sasuke mid diff, but it would be a good fight.
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Kamui destroys sasuke before he activates sharingan.

Kakashi would be forced to use kamui on an arrow from Susanoo, which we know he can't dodge, and kakashi has never once demonstrated the ability to warp anything instantly unless it was already flying at him, or with kyuuibis chakra, and kakashi is hospital bound after using it a hand full of times.

Take note of how weak kamui is in this example when kakashi uses it on his own.

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He has closed his eye right in this panel to activate MS

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The process of activating MS is no where near instant as you claim, and not fast enough to blitz kamui anyone of Sasuke's calbre.


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Here we can see kakashi claims to have enough chakra to go for the Mazous throat. and it took him nearly six pages to gather up the required chakra, kamui is about as instant as instant rice, kakashi has only demonstrated instantaneous transport with the kyuubis chakra, or with incoming projectiles, one of which was smaller than a kunai btw... it's enough to come to the conclusion that kamui isn't as OP as ppl make it out to be.
 

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Remeber when kakashi activated his MS to kamui his susanoo arrow .
It took kakashi less than 9/10ths of a second to activate his MS.
Which is faster than sasuke.

This is dumb. Nobody can activate a sharingan quicker than anybody. Whoever decides to activate their sharingan, simply activates it, there isn't a time limit, this isn't hand seals.

But kakashi can kamui all of Sasuke's attks off of him then just kamui sasuke :l

Yeah, because Kakashi can use Kamui anytime he wants, without it putting strain on his body, right?
 

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Kakashi would be forced to use kamui on an arrow from Susanoo, which we know he can't dodge, and kakashi has never once demonstrated the ability to warp anything instantly unless it was already flying at him, or with kyuuibis chakra, and kakashi is hospital bound after using it a hand full of times.

Take note of how weak kamui is in this example when kakashi uses it on his own.

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He has closed his eye right in this panel to activate MS

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The process of activating MS is no where near instant as you claim, and not fast enough to blitz kamui anyone of Sasuke's calbre.


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Here we can see kakashi claims to have enough chakra to go for the Mazous throat. and it took him nearly six pages to gather up the required chakra, kamui is about as instant as instant rice, kakashi has only demonstrated instantaneous transport with the kyuubis chakra, or with incoming projectiles, one of which was smaller than a kunai btw... it's enough to come to the conclusion that kamui isn't as OP as ppl make it out to be.
You do realise it took time because of the huge size of the statue? It's for that reason he needed to concentrate the chakra necessary to warp such a huge thing. It has nothing to do with the speed of the jutsu, but the warping capacity. The greater the object, the more the chakra you needs to warp it. He reacted to 2Susanoo arrows launched at him point blank at close range when he didn't even have MS activated from the start(just look and you will see on the first pic his MS wasn't activated):
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That example just shows how fast Kakashi can use his kamui
 
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This is dumb. Nobody can activate a sharingan quicker than anybody. Whoever decides to activate their sharingan, simply activates it, there isn't a time limit, this isn't hand seals.



Yeah, because Kakashi can use Kamui anytime he wants, without it putting strain on his body, right?
Im talking about MS.
Yes it does take time.
To activate the MS.
Look at itachi when he activated the MS to use amtersu.
 

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That's why Gai stated Lee was a taijutsu master and even defeated him in a restaurant right? Is it the same Lee that even cut thru Edo Madara like it was nothing when Gai was bleeding a lot against the same opponent?

Not saying that Lee is stronger than him in taijutsu, but what you said is just stupid. How many years you ask? It doesn't matter since Gai is a taijutsu specialist, but still got defeated in that category, so what makes you believe that the gap became that huge over years when Kakashi was greater than him from the start even without Sharingan? They use to make duels and along them there are taijutsu matchs. It's exactly like Hashirama and Madara practicing

Nah , it's not stupid , dont get mad defending Kakashi plox. Link me where Gai said he was defeated by Lee. Also by your logic Gai>Obito since he defeated him at the chunnin exams , MY GOD.
 

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Im talking about MS.
Yes it does take time.
To activate the MS.
Look at itachi when he activated the MS to use amtersu.

kakashi takes just as much time to activate his MS, I already showed this
 

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gai solos both of them.
 

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Nah , it's not stupid , dont get mad defending Kakashi plox. Link me where Gai said he was defeated by Lee. Also by your logic Gai>Obito since he defeated him at the chunnin exams , MY GOD.
Are you high? I said "in taijutsu". Obito got Sharingan and MS later. It's MS that makes him overpowered, but in taijutsu category, yes even current Gai owns him all the day.

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Gai says after mistaking sake with water, Lee turned into an awful thing, then "when he recovered", everything was destroyed, which means Lee defeated him in the process so bad that he only saw a natural desaster after he recovered
 

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Im talking about MS.
Yes it does take time.
To activate the MS.
Look at itachi when he activated the MS to use amtersu.

Amaterasu causes bleeding from the eye, it has nothing to do with how fast you activate the MS. Damn, you're dumb. Sasuke and Kakashi will both have time to activate their MS/EMS. They're not going to race each other in who can activate their Sharingan first.

He seems to have gotten used to it.

I wonder what's better, being able to spam MS techs with EMS, or straining your body with MS? Do the math.
 

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Sasuke will win however, there is possibility for Kakashi winning this fight, if he could handle MS a lot.
 

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Are you high? I said "in taijutsu". Obito got Sharingan and MS later. It's MS that makes him overpowered, but in taijutsu category, yes even current Gai owns him all the day.

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Gai says after mistaking sake with water, Lee turned into an awful thing, then "when he recovered", everything was destroyed, which means Lee defeated him in the process so bad that he only saw a natural desaster after he recovered

He was drunk too , that's why he almost couldn't remember what happened.
 

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sasuke wins this kakashi cant kamui 15 magatams so there is no debate kakashi kamui isnt kamuing sasuke thru susanoo basically if 3 people stand in a straight line kakashi will only warp one he cannt warp all three in the line susanoo acts as the other person for sasuke so he wins low - med diff
 
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How about you are all idiots?

Kakashi kamui is faster than amaterasu. Why? Because Kakashi's sharingan is an implanted sharingan and is always active, whereas sasuke has to activate his sharingan. If anything, Kakashi can kamui the flames off of himself then hit sasuke with Kamui.


this^.....just like obito did when he was hit by flames
 

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Amaterasu causes bleeding from the eye, it has nothing to do with how fast you activate the MS. Damn, you're dumb. Sasuke and Kakashi will both have time to activate their MS/EMS. They're not going to race each other in who can activate their Sharingan first.



I wonder what's better, being able to spam MS techs with EMS, or straining your body with MS? Do the math.

Okay first of all you said it took no time.
So it takes 0 seconds to activate the MS.
WOW your retarded.
0 seconds to activate a jutsu please.
 
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