Kakashi vs Mei

Who wins?

  • Kakashi

    Votes: 146 59.8%
  • Mei

    Votes: 98 40.2%

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Madara mhm

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None. imo, due to the fact that she has 2 Kg to kakashi's 1, but if she combines mist jutsu with acid or w/e it is, then it could be over, but let's not forget kakashi one of the strongest jounin / Kage level ninjas in the series, throughout fights, he has countered the hidden mist he knows mostly all techniques to do with the 5 Main elements, we don't know if he can mix and match or even combine like an earth with fire technique (Which would be awesome), but we can't really judge mei, because we have't seen her fight that much the only techniques we have saw her use are - Lava , Hidden mist,) Who knows she could be a master of all 5 elements, lol :D IMO There both Equals.
 
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kakashi easily.. he'd MS the shit out of Mei while keeping her distracted with a lightning clone
 

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- Raikage: You say would have, but he didn't. That's the fact. I can also say Sasuke would have used complete Susanoo at that time to protect him and Raikage would have been killed for nothing. Kakashi also said he would have killed Kakuzu with Kamui. So we don't know at all, and so far we've seen, Raikage killed no one so far.
- Tsunade: She didn't won at all so far i've seen it. The one who has beaten Kabuto is Naruto, not Tsunade. And beating Orochimaru without arms without technics is not that really impressiv, but yes you have a point there. She have beaten someone, but someone far from his real level.
- Gaara: At the end he lost against Deidara. And don't forget also that he had advantage because he was fighting in the desert and Deidara was restricted because he must not kill him. For example he didn't even use C4 at that time, who could have possibly kill Gaara, but that wasn't what he wanted. He didn't killed Kimimaro at all. In the contrary he was almost defeated if Kimimaro didn't die from his illness at that time. The only one he has defeated so far is Lee, but thats not really impressiv by now seeing the level of current opponents.

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Obviously Sasuke's response to Guillotine Drop was Amaterasu. Which would not have stopped Raikage as we've seen him fighting while Amaterasu was on his arm. Sasuke would have lost. It's a shown point. Unlike Kakashi's Kamui. Kakashi did not activate the finishing move. In the Sasu-A fight A launched his finisher and Sasuke launched his counter. The counter was not strong enough to save his life.
Regardless of whether or not he had his arms he challenged her to a fight and lost. Sasuke beat Oro on his deathbed, and 4 tails Naruto fought a very sick Oro. Manda really didn't have much to use against Tsunade. He was bound to lose to her.
Fighting in his village was a disadvantage because he had to taper his power to ensure his village was not damaged. The reason Deidara was able to implant bombs in his sand is because Gaara had to protect his village from the bomb Deidara dropped.
She has 3 releases :|

There are only five releases: Fire, Earth, Water, Wind and Lightning.

The KG aren't releases.

Kenkei Genkkei are releases, where has it ever been say they aren't. There are 5 main elements, but a combination of elements through a KG creates a new element. Mokuton is not simply Earth, nor is it simply water, nor is it simply Earth and Water together as that would be mud, it's different element or release.
 
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other way around bud . mei hasnt showed any taijutsu, speed, or smarts that could compete with kakashi . Even with her KGs kakashi still beats her in the ninjutsu department as well

the way sasuke dodged lava release tells us that it can be easily avoided, and if anybodies good at playing defense and offense at the same time its kakashi .

Exactly this
 

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Mei, most of you saying kakashi are fans, anyways Mei hasn't really shown all of what she's capable of
 

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Mei, most of you saying kakashi are fans, anyways Mei hasn't really shown all of what she's capable of

What makes you say mei? you have nothing to prove that says shes better than kakashi as of yet. yes i am a kakashi fan and a non bias one at that. im quick to admit when kakashi can be defeated by a better shinobi, but mei is not gonna kill kakashi.
 

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I would like to know how exactly would kakashi beat Mei when he couldn't beat a Jonin from the Mist village in Zabuza.

Your stupid -_-. tell me why kakuzu and hidan were being held at bay while kakashi protected his comrades.
 

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any mist ninja knows to use a hidden mist jutsu to combat the sharingan inside that kamui is useless along with his sharingan... then wat happens the hidden mist cloud becomes corrosive, not mention mei keeps a highly corrosive cloud around her the entire fight to prevent close combat, then uses water style (which she is a master lvl user of) not to mention some of her other elements to fight mid to long range... how many ppl think she can use the rain jutsu that can predict where people are in a hidden mist jutsu... all of those if kakashi just doesnt melt away in the corrosive mist (cause we have no real idea how big of an area she can actually make if she doesnt have to worry about bystandards... the only attack i see hitting is a head hunter/raikiri combo in which u have to enter her corrosive cloud defense so if u hit/miss and dont get away reeeeaaaaallly fast ur gona melt any way... as she has actively control the ph in the atmosphere and it doesnt just dissapear with her death... also i doubt mei gets hit with that as he has to come from the ground somewhere near her and ive seen ppl see that jutsu coming and dodge ( some of these ppl genin lvl in which a kage should easily side step it) and as soon as he comes out he's gona start melting so he cant exactly try a lil extended attack till he hits...
 

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any mist ninja knows to use a hidden mist jutsu to combat the sharingan inside that kamui is useless along with his sharingan... then wat happens the hidden mist cloud becomes corrosive, not mention mei keeps a highly corrosive cloud around her the entire fight to prevent close combat, then uses water style (which she is a master lvl user of) not to mention some of her other elements to fight mid to long range... how many ppl think she can use the rain jutsu that can predict where people are in a hidden mist jutsu... all of those if kakashi just doesnt melt away in the corrosive mist (cause we have no real idea how big of an area she can actually make if she doesnt have to worry about bystandards... the only attack i see hitting is a head hunter/raikiri combo in which u have to enter her corrosive cloud defense so if u hit/miss and dont get away reeeeaaaaallly fast ur gona melt any way... as she has actively control the ph in the atmosphere and it doesnt just dissapear with her death... also i doubt mei gets hit with that as he has to come from the ground somewhere near her and ive seen ppl see that jutsu coming and dodge ( some of these ppl genin lvl in which a kage should easily side step it) and as soon as he comes out he's gona start melting so he cant exactly try a lil extended attack till he hits...


lol. you make me laugh.. Kamui is so freaking fast. Mei will die in a second before she can use hidden mist
 

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lol. you make me laugh.. Kamui is so freaking fast. Mei will die in a second before she can use hidden mist

It's so funny when you have to base your whole argument off one jutsu....How many times have you seen Kakashi start off right away with Kamui? It's well known that he can use it. She would be prepared.
 

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lol. you make me laugh.. Kamui is so freaking fast. Mei will die in a second before she can use hidden mist

kamui is not something he will do right off the bat... it has always been his last resort... and after all of the mist and boil techs go off its not even going to be playable...
 

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kamui is not something he will do right off the bat... it has always been his last resort... and after all of the mist and boil techs go off its not even going to be playable...
Wrong. He wanted to use Kamui directly against Tobi. He also used Kamui directly against Deidara.
 

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Wrong. He wanted to use Kamui directly against Tobi. He also used Kamui directly against Deidara.

tobi (knowing it is madara uchiha) i ll give you... chasing after deidera for 2 days ( yes an exageration) and then using it is hardly right off the bat and more a last resort has he had nothing else to bring him down with...
 

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kamui is not something he will do right off the bat... it has always been his last resort... and after all of the mist and boil techs go off its not even going to be playable...


He use it directly against Tobi.

Mei hasn't shown any speed feats or defense technique that can avoid Kamui
 

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tobi (knowing it is madara uchiha) i ll give you... chasing after deidera for 2 days ( yes an exageration) and then using it is hardly right off the bat and more a last resort has he had nothing else to bring him down with...
2days? If we're looking at manga pages, it only took 3/4pages.xd
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And at that time he couldn't even master the jutsu very well. Like you must know, now it's even much more faster, it's an instant jutsu.
 

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If it wasn't for plot no jutsu Kakashi would just kamui headshot everyone.

Actually, that the dumbest thing I have ever heard.Kamui isn't the fastest of jutsu, and it doesn't immediately draws in an opponent.So exactly how would he just Kamui everyone head, when anyone with decent speed would just move, or attack Kakashi forcing him to lose his concentration thus breaking the jutsu.

The really plot no jutsu would be if Mei wins

Nice comeback chief.

Firstly, Kakashi owned Zabuza quickly like it was nothing recently. Even with Kabutos and Hakus help.
Secondly, how do you know Zabuza was a lesser Mist ninja? Zabuza was a deserter. Even if he was stronger than the Mizukage, he would have never being at this place just because of his behaviours. Mist ninjas are in generally not that strong at all, except from the 7swordsmen, so it's normal that their Kage is weaker than others. It's like sand ninja. If Gaara were to die now, the next Kazekage will be too weak because the stronger sand ninja is maybe Kankuro and he is noway near kage level. I believe that for example most of konohas jounin could be Kazekage at the place of Gaara if he dies. Even Asuma could be Kazekage if he were in the village of the sand. Konoha and Kumo are the village were there are the most powerful ninjas. It's why being kage in these villages is much more exceptionnal than being in others. When you are in a weak village, being Mizukage doesn't mean nothing. Proof is that Gaara, who is kazekage, with the huge advantage he has when he fights in the desert lost easily against Deidara who was not even trying to kill him. And actually Deidara is only a mist ninja, like Zabuza was too.

That's why that makes me laugh when someone try to say that because he is kage, he can't be beaten by a jounin. There are a lot of ninjas jounin who are not kage who could possibly be stronger than the Mizukage who has proof nothing at all since, except from the fact she has strong ninjutsu.


So much meaningless jibber jabber that doesn't have anything to do with the topic.First off, Diedara is from the Hidden Stone Village, not the mist.Secondly, Kabuto didn't help in the fight with Zabuza, seeing as he was miles away controlling the Edos.Controlling an edo is not helping.I will skip over your opinion on the strength of Sand and Mist shinobi because it doesn't matter.Mei is stronger than Kakashi, simple as that.How do I know Mei is stronger than Zabuza, the same way I know she stronger than Kakashi, the strength of her techniques.Mei ninjutsu is on a far superior scale than Kakashi.Just look at the power Mei displayed during the five kages versus Madara fight.Read the chapter when all the kage first got together and pay attention to madara words when Mei first used her Lava Release.To take it a step further, look at the power displayed when Mei used her Water Release tech compare to when Kakashi uses his Water Release tech.

And what type of stupid statement is "Mizukage who has proof nothing at all since, except from the fact she has strong ninjutsu"? Proving she has strong ninjutsu means she has proved something.And Mei ninjutsu is far stronger than Kakashi.What has kakashi proven other than he has low chakra and has been nearly killed or killed by every strong shinobi (Kakuza,Pain,Zabuza in part one) he faced.

He use it directly against Tobi.

Mei hasn't shown any speed feats or defense technique that can avoid Kamui

Kamui isn't a jutsu that you have to be incredibility fast to escape.It's not Tobi's S/T ninjutsu no matter how much the kakashi can be Mei crowd want to believe it.The speed Mei shown is more than enough to dodge it and she can attack while doing it.And when did Kakashi used Kamui against Tobi?

2days? If we're looking at manga pages, it only took 3/4pages.xd
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And at that time he couldn't even master the jutsu very well. Like you must know, now it's even much more faster, it's an instant jutsu.


What chapter has Kamui been shown to be a instant jutsu?
 
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Actually, that the dumbest thing I have ever heard.Kamui isn't the fastest of jutsu, and it doesn't immediately draws in an opponent.
So for you, which is the fastest jutsu if it's not kamui?
Secondly, Kabuto didn't help in the fight with Zabuza, seeing as he was miles away controlling the Edos.Controlling an edo is not helping.
And you actually believe what you're saying?xd
Mei is stronger than Kakashi, simple as that.How do I know Mei is stronger than Zabuza, the same way I know she stronger than Kakashi,
Easy to say it without arguments at all. But unfortunately, other people think the exactly opposite.

the strength of her techniques.Mei ninjutsu is on a far superior scale than Kakashi.
The problem is that her ninjutsu is not fast enough to catch Kakashi.

Just look at the power Mei displayed during the five kages versus Madara fight.Read the chapter when all the kage first got together and pay attention to madara words when Mei first used her Lava Release.To take it a step further, look at the power displayed when Mei used her Water Release tech compare to when Kakashi uses his Water Release tech.
I've already said she has strong ninjutsu, but it's slow. Just to compare, i think Kakuzus ninjutsu is much more faster than Meis even if it's not stronger.
And for the water release i say it depends, cuz Kakashi has also shown suiton jutsus with almost the same scale as from Mei.

And what type of stupid statement is "Mizukage who has proof nothing at all since, except from the fact she has strong ninjutsu"? Proving she has strong ninjutsu means she has proved something.And Mei ninjutsu is far stronger than Kakashi.What has kakashi proven other than he has low chakra and has been nearly killed or killed by every strong shinobi (Kakuza,Pain,Zabuza in part one) he faced.
Just see the context and stop saying stupid things. Against Zabuza, he only understimated him. He said it himself. He didn't knew he was that strong, and he underestimated him at that time. But after that, Zabuza was beaten easily. And in the second fight, he was only playing with him. When he's seen that Naruto was releasing Kyubis chakra, he said: "i'm sorry to end this game, but i must finish it quickly, cuz i've an important think to do after that" and he owned Zabuza quickly.
And there we were even talking about a weak Kakashi who said himself that the fact that he didn't made missions since a while made him weaker.

In part2 he was far more stronger than in part1. You say that he lost against Kakuzu, but not really quite, cuz he had again Kamui to finish him like he said to Naruto afterwards. But even if you were right, you think Mei could have done better? Kakuzu is one of the strongest in Akatsuki, someone who fought even against a monster like Hashirama, someone who has far much experience than everyone, someone who you must kill 5times and has a lot of deadly combos.

He lost against Pain. You think Mei could have done better? She would have been killed easily. So just stop saying nonsense and take a look to the opponents Kakashi had to face. They are all monsters. They are all above Kage levels.

Kakashi actually managed to kill Zabuza and Haku, to take 2hearts from Kakuzu, to take an arm from Deidara, to kill Asura Path from Pain, to beat Kisames master, but what did Mei actually do to think she is stronger? She defeated no one. Even black Zetsu she is incapable to beat in a group with powerful jounins. She didn't even hurt someone except from a deadly Sasuke.

Kamui isn't a jutsu that you have to be incredibility fast to escape.It's not Tobi's S/T ninjutsu no matter how much the kakashi can be Mei crowd want to believe it.The speed Mei shown is more than enough to dodge it and she can attack while doing it.And when did Kakashi used Kamui against Tobi?
Go and say that to Deidara who was even flying far away from Kakashi.:rolleyes:
What chapter has Kamui been shown to be a instant jutsu?
Susanoo arrows for example...
 
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