[Discussion] Kage Level Ranking

[Typhon]

Might as well throw in my two cents.

Legendary (not in any particular order):
-Madara Uchiha: Strongest ninja of the second strongest clan, EMS, possibly main baddy, control of 9-tails.
-1st Hokage: Strongest ninja of the strongest clan, controls tailed beasts, defeated Madara.
-Sage of the Six Paths: Creator of Ninjutsu, 10-tails host, God amongst men.
-Nagato: Second wielder of the Rinnengan, destroyed Konoho, then revived it.
-Minato: Yellow Flash, enemies told to retreat on sight, stopped the Kyuubi.
-Hanzou: Not much known, defeated 3 sannin at the same time, shown to be incredibly strong.

Higher Level:
-2nd Hokage: Second strongest ninja of the strongest clan, mastery of water jutsu.
-Sarutobi: Very diverse abilities, sealed Orochimaru's arms, one of the strongest Hokages.
-Orochimaru: Killed the 3rd, master of countless forbidden jutsu, snakes, insane in the membrane.
-Jiraiya: Possibly strongest of the 3 sannin, sage mode, incredibly powerful.
-Itachi: Amaterasu, Tsukiyomi and Susanoo, all before it was the cool thing to do.
-Raikage: Incredible speed and strength combined with mastery of lightning manipulation.
-Kirabi: Full control of the 8-tails, lightning manipulation, master swordsman, took out all of team Taka with little effort.
-Kisame: Chakra levels of a tailed beast, Samaheda, potentially could have killed Kirabi without interference from others and a traitorous sword.
-Mizukage: Two kekkei genkais, saw through Ao's tricks, sexy.
-Danzo: Uchiha wannabe, mostly speculating here but we'll find out how strong he is in the upcoming chapters. Crazy right arm?

Mid level:
Sasuke: He has the tools right now, just has to learn how to use them.
Naruto: Same deal as Sasuke, sage mode, rasengan, wind chakra, just learn some more stuff.
Kakashi: Copy cat ninja, very smart, chidori, mangekyo sharingan, etc.
Tsuchikage: Seems to have a bad back and be out of his prime, cool KG.
Gaara: Sand manipulation without 1 tails, kazekage, strong char.
Tsunade: Weakest of the 3 sannins, healer primarily, physically strong.
Yamato: DNA of the 1st, wood jutsu, suppressed kyuubi chakra.
Deidara: Clay manipulation, arts a blast.
Sasori: Poisonous puppets, 3rd kazekage with iron sand, etc.
Kakuzu: 5 hearts, crazy threads, all elements, apparently fought the 1st and survived.

Low level:
-Sakura: Strong, decent medical ability, still long ways to go.
-Konan: Paper jutsu, not much seen, follower not a leader.
-Neji: Lost character of the series.
-Kiba: Strong sense of smell, him and Akamaru are cool.
-Hidan: Immortal, any cut he makes and GG.
-Shikamaru: Strategist, shadow manipulation.
-Choji: Can grow really big and eat a lot.
-Sai: Drawings come to life.
-Rock Lee: 7 gates, taijutsu expert.

 

[Kuroi Honoo]

What up again main! I would have to go and say that Pain meant what he said, He had no idea Jiraiya was going to be this strong. If you look at it from the perspective of Pain only having the three bodies and 4th hidden Jiraiya may have won the fight by his experience but obviously that wasn't the case. I don't think for a moment that Pain didn't have the upper hand at the end of the battle, but Naruto was still able to overcome his capture whether or not he was aided by the nine tails. He eventually did defeat all six paths and realistically was quite capable of killing Nagato in his chakra bed or whatever, since he didn't elect to kill him Nagato changed sides seeing that Naruto is someone who can really change the ninja world for the better. I still don't give Naruto God tier credit because he has lots to discover about himself and his abilities still and so a high upper tier but someone please stop saying J man is not strong he before anyone else made Pain use his six paths or at least it seems that way, but he is strong and worthy of being God tier he was elected to become the Hokage at one point in time and recommended by the 3rd who wanted him as his successor but later chose Minato which is still an incredible good choice.

Hey! Just touching up on some things in my profile lol I respect your opinion, although after viewing what Valkyria posted...

Would Jiraiya even have the opportunity and time to go into Sage mode if all 6 pains were there from the start? Most likely no. We know that Deva Pain never displayed his full power since Ma and Pa never relayed that info to Konoha. Bansho Tenin would have been the ideal jutsu to get him off balance from Gamaken and put his life in great jeopardy. People like to say that Pain was cheap in hiding his 3 bodies but don't stop to realize the even smaller chance of Jiraiya winning if Pain was fighting 'fair' from the beginning.

Well now that you mention all of this, I stand acknowledged. I mean, I decided to give what Pain said the benefit of the doubt because why would he even bother to say that? but after seeing what you posted raised some phenomenal points. Pain probably said that out of respect or pity. Since it was a nice while ago, I have forgotten most of the important details of that fight but as you laid it down in my opinion, it now does seem highly likely that even if Jiraiya knew about the six paths that the result would have been the same; lying in his defeat.​

 

[Kawagiri]

tbh really...
jiraiya<pain<naruto

6 bodies vs. 1 without the down side of clones being weaker than the original bodies depending on how many are made...yes pain may have used up alot of chakra but he could still use all the moves he could do against the others and more moves...

lets say he had half his chakra left at the start of the fight... correct me if i'm wrong but pein tried repelling naruto at the end but naruto used clones to cushion the repel giving him enough time to get close and kill him... this means he could still use jutsu.

yes pain wasn't supposed to kill him... but the jutsu he used to create the huge rock sphere... if that caught someone i'm pretty sure it'd kill them :|

 

[Kuroi Honoo]

If we're talking about "KAGE" level rankings (like people that meet the criteria to be that strong) then this is my list. It's all in order too for each tier.

Upper Tier

1. -Sage of six Paths
2. -4th Hokage
3. -Pain
4. -Sage Naruto
5. -Sage Jiraiya

Middle Tier

1. -Itachi Uchiha
2. -Madara Uchiha
3. -Orochimaru
4. -Tsunade
5. -Hanzou
6. -3rd Hokage(Prime)
7. -Raikage
8. -Kisame
9. -Killer Bee

Lower Tier

1. -1st Hokage
2. -2nd Hokage
3. -Tsuchikage
4. -Kakuzu
5. -Sasori
6. -Deidara
7. -Gaara
8. -Mizukage
9. -Kabuto(with Orochimaru DNA)

Now before you guys freak out about Madara being in the middle tier, let me explain. Lately I've been thinking that maybe Madara hasn't really been as strong as we thought. Yes he's most likely still "Kage" level, but if you really think about it, he doesn't seem that powerful. Yes he has the ability to control the Kyuubi, but that just comes as a special power from his bloodline, not his actual "trained" abilities. And we've also heard that even the 1st Hokage defeated Madara, even with his Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan.

I'm starting to believe that maybe Madara isn't really all that powerful compared to how we thought of him. Maybe his plan to control the bijuu as his army is what he aims for to get his "long lost" power back. Because Itachi and himself both stated that he is a pathetic shell of his former self.

Yell at me if you want, but this is what I'm starting to think.

Well, let me start by saying that even though this is your opinion, it isn't very accurate at all. There are many holes in how you depicted everybody's rank. I mean you didn't even rank Sasuke which no matter how much you dislike or hate his character has to be in there somewhere. Having Mangekyou and able to use Susanoo, Amaterasu (with combinations: Enton), Tsukuyomi (which he hasn't been shown using if I'm not mistaken but has to have it in order to activate Susanoo, ne) and etc. Hashirama and Tobirama in the lowest teir is just crazy to say the least.

I've seen people say that Hiruzen is stronger than the first an second due to his fight with them through Orochimaru's Kuchiyose: Edo Tensei. Although, what people are forgetting is, that tech which can be used to summon more than one if desired, uses a deceased body, ash and dirt to resemble the original body you want to resurrect. A seal that both restores the detailed appearances but also robs their free will is placed upon them. Once they are revived, it is impossible to kill making them immortal. The only option is to take out their souls so the only way to do this is to use the Shiki Fuujin. The empty vessels afterwards will be reduced to ash and dirt. So Hiruzen was simply the perfect comptatible person to take that jutsu head on.

It doesn't show how weaker the First and Second are compared to the Third. In other words they both deserve to be higher in my opinion. Madara and Danzo probably shouldn't even be placed any where in there due to the lack of their shown abilities.​

 

[sasuke uchiha94]

I'm bored so I decided to try and put all the Kage lvl nins we have seen in action into an orderly list.

Upper Tier:
Pein - at full power with all bodies he isn't getting touched

Uchiha Itachi - at full health (no disease, no blindness)

Namikaze Minato - said to be strongest Hokage

Sarutobi Hiruzen - strongest Kage of his time

Senju Hashirama - creator of the forest

Senju Tobirama - ocean man

Mid Tier:
Gama Sennin Jiraiya - awesome dude all around

Orochimaru (healthy)

Hoshigaki Kisame (with obedient Samehada)

Raikage (current, both arms)

Killerbee

Uzumaki Naruto

Uchiha Sasuke

Tsunade

Sasori

Lower Tier:
Kazekage Gaara

Mizukage (current)

Tsuchikage (current)

Kakashi

Danzo

Everyone else from Akatsuki not yet mentioned

I'm not sure about a lot of this. Help me put it in proper order.

Nice work but gaara, Mizukage, Tsuchikage should be in the top and kakakashi in the middle

 

[DarkSakuraAngel736]

Okay this is my opinion on the Kage level ranking.*There is no particular order in my ranking I just write down whatever names come to mind. Might edit later.*

Gods:
Sage of the Six Paths

Legends:
1st Hokage
Pein
Itachi
2nd Hokage
4th Hokage
3rd Hokage
3rd Kazekage
Hiruzen

Lower Legends:
Naruto
Jiraiya
Kisame
Sasuke
Raikage
Killer Bee
Madara-Stays here until we see his full power
Mizukage-Has two Keke Genkais and is very smart(imo)

Higher Level:
Tuschikage-Currently isn't in his prime
Kakashi-knows many jutsu, seems to have mastered his MS, just needs more chakra
Tsunade-she's seen as the weakest of the Sanin but, she is still a sanin
Orochimaru
Danzo-maybe, have to wait until next manga to be sure
Gai-is a master of taijutsu and can open the 8 gates
Sasori
Kakuzu

Middle Level:
Gaara
Deidara
Zetsu-until I know his abilities
Sakura-has the potential to surpass Tsunade
Temari
Neji
Rock Lee-almost the same reasons as Gai

Lower level:
Hinata-haven't seen much of her fighting capabilities, plus she hates to fight anyway
Hidan
Asuma-he was one of the 12 ninjas chosen to protect the daimyo(sp?), can't remember what it was called
Kabuto
Kankuro-don't really think he is that strong from what I've seen

ps. SOT6P is the only god level ninja because I can't think of anyone that would be able to even put a scratch on him(besides the Jyubii) let alone get near him.

 

[Blizzard589]

tbh really...
jiraiya<pain<naruto

6 bodies vs. 1 without the down side of clones being weaker than the original bodies depending on how many are made...yes pain may have used up alot of chakra but he could still use all the moves he could do against the others and more moves...

lets say he had half his chakra left at the start of the fight... correct me if i'm wrong but pein tried repelling naruto at the end but naruto used clones to cushion the repel giving him enough time to get close and kill him... this means he could still use jutsu.

yes pain wasn't supposed to kill him... but the jutsu he used to create the huge rock sphere... if that caught someone i'm pretty sure it'd kill them :|

I strongly disagree. Pain>>>Jiraiya=Naruto

Pain owns all. If Pain fought Jiraiya with all 6 bodies, Jiraiya would've died quickly. He was struggling and had to retreat with only 3 bodies.

The statement is bold is definitely wrong. Deva Path, the strongest Pain body, didn't get his powers back until Naruto had already destroyed 3 bodies and shortly after Deva got his powers, Naruto destroyed a 4th. If Deva Pain had his powers the whole fight, he would've been able to repel all the Rasenshurikens and Naruto would not have stood a chance.

Pain started the fight with Naruto crippled and without many secrets whereas Pain new nothing of Naruto's abilities. It was an unfair fight and in no way represents Pains full potential. Pain is the second strongest character in the Narutoverse that we know of after Rikudou Sennin.

 

[Blizzard589]

like I said before, it's all opinionated. This is what I think from what I've read and I'm sticking with it.

That may be what you think but everyone else is at least trying to base their opinion in fact, making them educated guesses. No one but Kishi knows exactly but we try to do the best we can with what we're given. Pulling random opinion that you don't back up (aka out of your ass) doesn't help anything.

Well, let me start by saying that even though this is your opinion, it isn't very accurate at all. There are many holes in how you depicted everybody's rank. I mean you didn't even rank Sasuke which no matter how much you dislike or hate his character has to be in there somewhere. Having Mangekyou and able to use Susanoo, Amaterasu (with combinations: Enton), Tsukuyomi (which he hasn't been shown using if I'm not mistaken but has to have it in order to activate Susanoo, ne) and etc. Hashirama and Tobirama in the lowest teir is just crazy to say the least.

I've seen people say that Hiruzen is stronger than the first an second due to his fight with them through Orochimaru's Kuchiyose: Edo Tensei. Although, what people are forgetting is, that tech which can be used to summon more than one if desired, uses a deceased body, ash and dirt to resemble the original body you want to resurrect. A seal that both restores the detailed appearances but also robs their free will is placed upon them. Once they are revived, it is impossible to kill making them immortal. The only option is to take out their souls so the only way to do this is to use the Shiki Fuujin. The empty vessels afterwards will be reduced to ash and dirt. So Hiruzen was simply the perfect comptatible person to take that jutsu head on.

It doesn't show how weaker the First and Second are compared to the Third. In other words they both deserve to be higher in my opinion. Madara and Danzo probably shouldn't even be placed any where in there due to the lack of their shown abilities.​

Agreed. Except that Old Sarutobi (much weaker than Prime Sarutobi) held his own against those two immortal summonings whose powers were pretty close to their original selfs I'm pretty sure. And if it wasn't for their immortality he would have taken them out with those explosive tags he put on them.

 

[Valkyria]

I strongly disagree. Pain>>>Jiraiya=Naruto

Pain owns all. If Pain fought Jiraiya with all 6 bodies, Jiraiya would've died quickly. He was struggling and had to retreat with only 3 bodies.

The statement is bold is definitely wrong. Deva Path, the strongest Pain body, didn't get his powers back until Naruto had already destroyed 3 bodies and shortly after Deva got his powers, Naruto destroyed a 4th. If Deva Pain had his powers the whole fight, he would've been able to repel all the Rasenshurikens and Naruto would not have stood a chance.

Pain started the fight with Naruto crippled and without many secrets whereas Pain new nothing of Naruto's abilities. It was an unfair fight and in no way represents Pains full potential. Pain is the second strongest character in the Narutoverse that we know of after Rikudou Sennin.

Pretty much what I was going to say wease:

 

[Alucard]

lmao everything's wrong. Tsunade stronger than Gaara, Onoki and the current Mizukage? Lmao wtf

 

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[David Walker]

Okay this is my opinion on the Kage level ranking.*There is no particular order in my ranking I just write down whatever names come to mind. Might edit later.*

Gods:
Sage of the Six Paths

Legends:
1st Hokage
Pein
Itachi
2nd Hokage
4th Hokage
3rd Hokage
3rd Kazekage
Hiruzen

Lower Legends:
Naruto
Jiraiya
Kisame
Sasuke
Raikage
Killer Bee
Madara-Stays here until we see his full power
Mizukage-Has two Keke Genkais and is very smart(imo)

Higher Level:
Tuschikage-Currently isn't in his prime
Kakashi-knows many jutsu, seems to have mastered his MS, just needs more chakra
Tsunade-she's seen as the weakest of the Sanin but, she is still a sanin
Orochimaru
Danzo-maybe, have to wait until next manga to be sure
Gai-is a master of taijutsu and can open the 8 gates
Sasori
Kakuzu

Middle Level:
Gaara
Deidara
Zetsu-until I know his abilities
Sakura-has the potential to surpass Tsunade
Temari
Neji
Rock Lee-almost the same reasons as Gai

Lower level:
Hinata-haven't seen much of her fighting capabilities, plus she hates to fight anyway
Hidan
Asuma-he was one of the 12 ninjas chosen to protect the daimyo(sp?), can't remember what it was called
Kabuto
Kankuro-don't really think he is that strong from what I've seen

ps. SOT6P is the only god level ninja because I can't think of anyone that would be able to even put a scratch on him(besides the Jyubii) let alone get near him.

id take the 2nd and 3rd hokages out of the legends and stick them in lower legends, and bump madara up to legend grouping (okay u stuck him there since full powers arent shown yet...but he was strongest nija of joint strongest clan)

also how does 3rd Kazekage go into legends but sasori who killed him go into higher level

 

[Typhon]

id take the 2nd and 3rd hokages out of the legends and stick them in lower legends, and bump madara up to legend grouping (okay u stuck him there since full powers arent shown yet...but he was strongest nija of joint strongest clan)

also how does 3rd Kazekage go into legends but sasori who killed him go into higher level

We never were told how Sasori killed the Kazekage. For all we know Sasori could have just poisoned his food or drink one night, which would be reasonable considering Sasori's use of poison.

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

Might as well throw in my two cents.

Legendary (not in any particular order):
-Madara Uchiha: Strongest ninja of the second strongest clan, EMS, possibly main baddy, control of 9-tails.
-1st Hokage: Strongest ninja of the strongest clan, controls tailed beasts, defeated Madara.
-Sage of the Six Paths: Creator of Ninjutsu, 10-tails host, God amongst men.
-Nagato: Second wielder of the Rinnengan, destroyed Konoho, then revived it.
-Minato: Yellow Flash, enemies told to retreat on sight, stopped the Kyuubi.
-Hanzou: Not much known, defeated 3 sannin at the same time, shown to be incredibly strong.

Higher Level:
-2nd Hokage: Second strongest ninja of the strongest clan, mastery of water jutsu.
-Sarutobi: Very diverse abilities, sealed Orochimaru's arms, one of the strongest Hokages.
-Orochimaru: Killed the 3rd, master of countless forbidden jutsu, snakes, insane in the membrane.
-Jiraiya: Possibly strongest of the 3 sannin, sage mode, incredibly powerful.
-Itachi: Amaterasu, Tsukiyomi and Susanoo, all before it was the cool thing to do.
-Raikage: Incredible speed and strength combined with mastery of lightning manipulation.
-Kirabi: Full control of the 8-tails, lightning manipulation, master swordsman, took out all of team Taka with little effort.
-Kisame: Chakra levels of a tailed beast, Samaheda, potentially could have killed Kirabi without interference from others and a traitorous sword.
-Mizukage: Two kekkei genkais, saw through Ao's tricks, sexy.
-Danzo: Uchiha wannabe, mostly speculating here but we'll find out how strong he is in the upcoming chapters. Crazy right arm?

Mid level:
Sasuke: He has the tools right now, just has to learn how to use them.
Naruto: Same deal as Sasuke, sage mode, rasengan, wind chakra, just learn some more stuff.
Kakashi: Copy cat ninja, very smart, chidori, mangekyo sharingan, etc.
Tsuchikage: Seems to have a bad back and be out of his prime, cool KG.
Gaara: Sand manipulation without 1 tails, kazekage, strong char.
Tsunade: Weakest of the 3 sannins, healer primarily, physically strong.
Yamato: DNA of the 1st, wood jutsu, suppressed kyuubi chakra.
Deidara: Clay manipulation, arts a blast.
Sasori: Poisonous puppets, 3rd kazekage with iron sand, etc.
Kakuzu: 5 hearts, crazy threads, all elements, apparently fought the 1st and survived.

Low level:
-Sakura: Strong, decent medical ability, still long ways to go.
-Konan: Paper jutsu, not much seen, follower not a leader.
-Neji: Lost character of the series.
-Kiba: Strong sense of smell, him and Akamaru are cool.
-Hidan: Immortal, any cut he makes and GG.
-Shikamaru: Strategist, shadow manipulation.
-Choji: Can grow really big and eat a lot.
-Sai: Drawings come to life.
-Rock Lee: 7 gates, taijutsu expert.

Nearly agreed. Naruto and Sasuke should go up on the high level though. They are VASTLY more powerful than their classmates.

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

Hey! Just touching up on some things in my profile lol I respect your opinion, although after viewing what Valkyria posted...



Well now that you mention all of this, I stand acknowledged. I mean, I decided to give what Pain said the benefit of the doubt because why would he even bother to say that? but after seeing what you posted raised some phenomenal points. Pain probably said that out of respect or pity. Since it was a nice while ago, I have forgotten most of the important details of that fight but as you laid it down in my opinion, it now does seem highly likely that even if Jiraiya knew about the six paths that the result would have been the same; lying in his defeat.​

Keeping skills secret is part of a battle. I mean you'd have to be quite a dumbass to flip the hand signs, and be like oh well see...this is a water dragon jutsu. It's B-ranked, and if you use a fire jutsu of equal power it will evaporate! I mean I always thought these guys were dumbasses for yelling out the name of their techniques... WATER STYLE! WATER DRAGON MISSLE.
Oh shit...what do I do now? Get out of the way...
Of course when you tell someone everything about your technique and they keep theirs secret from you it puts YOU at a disadvantage. Pain beat Jiraiya, who is by far one of my more favorite characters. He did it fair and square.

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

tbh really...
jiraiya<pain<naruto

6 bodies vs. 1 without the down side of clones being weaker than the original bodies depending on how many are made...yes pain may have used up alot of chakra but he could still use all the moves he could do against the others and more moves...

lets say he had half his chakra left at the start of the fight... correct me if i'm wrong but pein tried repelling naruto at the end but naruto used clones to cushion the repel giving him enough time to get close and kill him... this means he could still use jutsu.

yes pain wasn't supposed to kill him... but the jutsu he used to create the huge rock sphere... if that caught someone i'm pretty sure it'd kill them :|

On top of that, when has Naruto really killed anyone either? He may have like...once. That was also a Kyuubi influenced kill I think. Naruto doesn't typically aim to kill either.

 

[teetooktier]

Here's my rankings, based on the revised ones.

Note:

God ranking requires some degree of what we might call "unbeatability". This might be inability to be vanquished (Susano'o, intangibility, revival from death) or an otherwise ridiculously unfair move or advantage (Minato's Flying Thunder God, the Death God Seal)

High and below is merely powerful.

God tier:
Pain: Personally, I think that 6 bodies of Pain, with no intel, at close real body distance and moderate health, is more or less the most dangerous opponent out there.

BTW What most people don't get, when Pain said he would have lost if he hadn't kept his secret to the end, he was talking about HAVING A SEVENTH BODY, not that he kept half his bodies hidden. If it was 6 bodies vs Jiraiya, Jiraiya dies; but if Jiraiya knows to ignore the 6 and find the seventh and kill him, Nagato is dead. So very, very dead. Anyways, thats what he was saying.

Itachi: At full health, and ATTEMPTING to kill his opponent, Itachi is up there with Sarutobi and the 4rth. Not as much raw power, but he does have the 2nd cheapest move out there and extreme skill, escpecially with genjutsu.

Sarutobi: He has the 3rd cheapest move out there, instant death seal, as well as immense power and versatility.

Minato: Faster than Sonic the Hedgehog. Nuff' said.

Hashirama:Beat Madara and survived the Nine tails at the same time. WTF power right there, more than enough to cover his lack of "invicibility".

Madara: At full power he is certainly powerful, likely has all 3 mangekyo powers with no limit, and who knows what eternal mangekyo powers. He could rival Hashirama, though not beat him. Even right now, he has the cheapest Naruto moves ever (Invulnerable to pretty much everything, move faster than Minato with no seals needed) and if he has 7 bijuu under his command during a fight, he is essentially more invincible than Susano'o as his powers has no life limit AND he has extreme offense. The perfect war weapon.

Upper:

Tobirama: Haven't seen that much of his power, but I'd rank him up about equal to Kisamehada.

Jiraiya(At Sage mode): Incredible skill and even more ridiculous raw power (check out his WTFsangen), with the two great toads which basically HAVE to be there, to help him. He could fight Pain and take down some of his bodies, for crying out loud. I suppose he has crazy summons too, but that doesn't really matter at the god-high level.


Kisamehada: Not that he's all that amazing, but as he can eat through any chakra based attack, is one of the physically strongest characters seen, can recover from any wound, go shark mode, along with his insane chakra and massive water techniques, Kisame is just really hard to defeat, by anyone. So he gets a spot.

Raikage: Don't know why you put him in middle, he was stated to move almost as fast as Minato, dodged the "undodgeable" Amaterasu, is physically untouchable except with a raiton, (raiton chakra numbs any opponent), has likely the greatest raw strength in Naruto (check out his muscles), and broke Susano'os ribs (which tanked Kirin, the greatest lighting tech ever really) with one punch, you can't really rank him lower.

Killerbee: Same as high bro, he needs to be at the top. He can basically beat any meleer with his seven swords style, has the FULL power of the eight tails (which from what we've seen is about the same as six tailed Naruto), very high raw strength, beat Juugo and Suigetsu together, as well as broke out of what was presumable Tsukoyomi instantly, he is formidable.

Middle-high:

Sasuke: When basically none of the kages can hurt him, and being able to fight the Raikage, one of the most powerful ninjas shown, he's a cut above. Add all the other stuff, and yeah.

Naruto: Sage Mode makes him crazy, but I put him lower than Jiraiya because without it he is worse, and with it he doesn't have the two toads, or all the crazy hair, oil/fire, and barrier techs, as well as general skill.

Middle:

Orochimaru: Moved him down due to him being basically unable to beat a 4-tailed Naruto (his totsuka blade couldn't pierce him), as well as him lacking any significant techniques outside of summons. His inability to be killed from most attacks keeps him up here, though.

Kazekage Gaara: Totally right, hes really strong, but not godlike or insane.
Mizukage: Same as above.
Tsuchikage: Same as above.
Danzo: I'd would imagine him about equal to the lesser kages, yes.

Lower:
Kakuzu: Outmatched an entire Konoha platoon, survived a fight with the First, has five lives... died to Naruto without sage mode. Yeah, he's down here.

Deidara: Same as above, except replace Naruto with Sasuke and add the fact that he went nuts, killed himself, and instantly lost to Itachi.

Kakashi: Only AFTER he loses to Kakuzu, great overall... lost to one and a half Pains with double Akimichi backup. Yeah, it was the best one, but still, Naruto killed that one alone with some great planning and without sage mode mostly, Kakashi shoulda done better.

Yamato, Konan, Sasori, Hidan just don't deserve to stand with these legends. Especially Hidan, without his immortality he had no skill, and with it he died the SHIKAMARU. WTF man, get your ** out of Akatsuki.

 

[Blizzard589]

Here's my rankings, based on the revised ones.

Note:

God ranking requires some degree of what we might call "unbeatability". This might be inability to be vanquished (Susano'o, intangibility, revival from death) or an otherwise ridiculously unfair move or advantage (Minato's Flying Thunder God, the Death God Seal)

High and below is merely powerful.

God tier:
Pain: Personally, I think that 6 bodies of Pain, with no intel, at close real body distance and moderate health, is more or less the most dangerous opponent out there.

BTW What most people don't get, when Pain said he would have lost if he hadn't kept his secret to the end, he was talking about HAVING A SEVENTH BODY, not that he kept half his bodies hidden. If it was 6 bodies vs Jiraiya, Jiraiya dies; but if Jiraiya knows to ignore the 6 and find the seventh and kill him, Nagato is dead. So very, very dead. Anyways, thats what he was saying.

Itachi: At full health, and ATTEMPTING to kill his opponent, Itachi is up there with Sarutobi and the 4rth. Not as much raw power, but he does have the 2nd cheapest move out there and extreme skill, escpecially with genjutsu.

Sarutobi: He has the 3rd cheapest move out there, instant death seal, as well as immense power and versatility.

Minato: Faster than Sonic the Hedgehog. Nuff' said.

Hashirama:Beat Madara and survived the Nine tails at the same time. WTF power right there, more than enough to cover his lack of "invicibility".

Madara: At full power he is certainly powerful, likely has all 3 mangekyo powers with no limit, and who knows what eternal mangekyo powers. He could rival Hashirama, though not beat him. Even right now, he has the cheapest Naruto moves ever (Invulnerable to pretty much everything, move faster than Minato with no seals needed) and if he has 7 bijuu under his command during a fight, he is essentially more invincible than Susano'o as his powers has no life limit AND he has extreme offense. The perfect war weapon.

Upper:

Tobirama: Haven't seen that much of his power, but I'd rank him up about equal to Kisamehada.

Jiraiya(At Sage mode): Incredible skill and even more ridiculous raw power (check out his WTFsangen), with the two great toads which basically HAVE to be there, to help him. He could fight Pain and take down some of his bodies, for crying out loud. I suppose he has crazy summons too, but that doesn't really matter at the god-high level.


Kisamehada: Not that he's all that amazing, but as he can eat through any chakra based attack, is one of the physically strongest characters seen, can recover from any wound, go shark mode, along with his insane chakra and massive water techniques, Kisame is just really hard to defeat, by anyone. So he gets a spot.

Raikage: Don't know why you put him in middle, he was stated to move almost as fast as Minato, dodged the "undodgeable" Amaterasu, is physically untouchable except with a raiton, (raiton chakra numbs any opponent), has likely the greatest raw strength in Naruto (check out his muscles), and broke Susano'os ribs (which tanked Kirin, the greatest lighting tech ever really) with one punch, you can't really rank him lower.

Killerbee: Same as high bro, he needs to be at the top. He can basically beat any meleer with his seven swords style, has the FULL power of the eight tails (which from what we've seen is about the same as six tailed Naruto), very high raw strength, beat Juugo and Suigetsu together, as well as broke out of what was presumable Tsukoyomi instantly, he is formidable.

Middle-high:

Sasuke: When basically none of the kages can hurt him, and being able to fight the Raikage, one of the most powerful ninjas shown, he's a cut above. Add all the other stuff, and yeah.

Naruto: Sage Mode makes him crazy, but I put him lower than Jiraiya because without it he is worse, and with it he doesn't have the two toads, or all the crazy hair, oil/fire, and barrier techs, as well as general skill.

Middle:

Orochimaru: Moved him down due to him being basically unable to beat a 4-tailed Naruto (his totsuka blade couldn't pierce him), as well as him lacking any significant techniques outside of summons. His inability to be killed from most attacks keeps him up here, though.

Kazekage Gaara: Totally right, hes really strong, but not godlike or insane.
Mizukage: Same as above.
Tsuchikage: Same as above.
Danzo: I'd would imagine him about equal to the lesser kages, yes.

Lower:
Kakuzu: Outmatched an entire Konoha platoon, survived a fight with the First, has five lives... died to Naruto without sage mode. Yeah, he's down here.

Deidara: Same as above, except replace Naruto with Sasuke and add the fact that he went nuts, killed himself, and instantly lost to Itachi.

Kakashi: Only AFTER he loses to Kakuzu, great overall... lost to one and a half Pains with double Akimichi backup. Yeah, it was the best one, but still, Naruto killed that one alone with some great planning and without sage mode mostly, Kakashi shoulda done better.

Yamato, Konan, Sasori, Hidan just don't deserve to stand with these legends. Especially Hidan, without his immortality he had no skill, and with it he died the SHIKAMARU. WTF man, get your ** out of Akatsuki.

LOL true about Hidan... And I agree that Raikage and his bro should be higher. But Orochimaru I think is almost as strong as Jiraiya and definitely still stronger than Naruto and Sasuke.

Sasori and Deidara are also both stronger than Kakuzu and pretty close to Gaara's strength. Even if he cheated to win, Deidara was pressing Gaara pretty hard and that was when Gaara still had the Shukaku in him. We don't really know how much his strength dropped since then but I'm sure it did. And Deidara was inferior to Sasori by his own words I believe.

Yamato and Gai are both pretty close to Kakashi's level. We just haven't really seen them in crazy situations like we've seen Kakashi.

 

[teetooktier]

LOL true about Hidan... And I agree that Raikage and his bro should be higher. But Orochimaru I think is almost as strong as Jiraiya and definitely still stronger than Naruto and Sasuke.

Sasori and Deidara are also both stronger than Kakuzu and pretty close to Gaara's strength. Even if he cheated to win, Deidara was pressing Gaara pretty hard and that was when Gaara still had the Shukaku in him. We don't really know how much his strength dropped since then but I'm sure it did. And Deidara was inferior to Sasori by his own words I believe.

Yamato and Gai are both pretty close to Kakashi's level. We just haven't really seen them in crazy situations like we've seen Kakashi.

I guess you're right about oro and gai. For Oro I'll say that he then goes in the mid-high tier, but ONLY if he has Sasuke's body. Otherwise I don't see him killing Pain, or fighting both of the Killer Bros.

I forgot about Gai, six gates+ can't be ignored. But considering how he barely beat 30% Kisame, and the fact that the 7th gate likely causes insanity as per it's name and the 8th death, he's really at his limit when it come to final, consistently usable strenth, unlike Kakashi who keeps getting better with no real drawbacks. But who knows? I'll put him at the sub-lower tier.

Yamato on the other hand I'd rate as about equal to Asuma and Shikamaru, and neither of them really beat Gai. He's really just an A+ Jounin.

It's quite hard to rate Sasori, really, as his only real battle was with his worst case scenario, one against a team which had a master puppeteer who knew him and his moves, and a superstrength healer girl with the cure to his poison. Even so, he was stated to have lost this battle on purpose.

Despite this, Sasori clearly lacked the raw destructive power of higher listed candidates, and I don't think he could beat Orochimaru, or in fact most of the current Kages. The thing that really does him in for me was when Sakura, on her own, failed to be instantly torn to bits by the hundred puppets preformance, his ultimate tech, and broke many of them. That doesn't sound good vs the likes of Kakashi, Deidara, or Kakuzu. Even so, I'll bump him to the low tier, if only for the iron sand with poison.

As for the Deidara vs Gaara issue, you are right, but Gaara has clearly grown since then, and matched the Raikage in that he blocked Sasuke's Amaterasu. More importantly, Deidara, no matter how much he could have grown, could not have outdone his suicide explosion in a new tech, and since pre-mangekyo Sasuke escaped that with almost no chakra left, I can't see him contending with the kages.

If anything, this moves Gaara DOWN to his own little low-mid tier.

 

[Narut0h0lic]

I dont agree with this but then again you do say you wanted help with this list. Theres a lot to be said on this topic on who is the strongest and it really gets more complicated by having certain characters being more specilased in one area. So that would mean certain charcters are more useful in different ways.

So for example "Character A" can beat "Character B" but he cant beat "Character C".

But on the other hand "Character B" can beat " Character C".


There is also the fact that a lot of the charcters we havent seen there full potential or havent seent hem much at all. Examples of this could be the 1st Hokage, 2nd Hokage and the current Tsuchikage etc.

All of this can be taken into acount but a lot of it is going to be asumptions. Examples would be like trying to predict how pwerful Itachi is at full power/without being partially blind.

Namikaze Minato/4th Hokage was never stated to be the strongest Hokage. Correct me if im wrong.

Sarutobi Hiruzen/3rd Hokage was stated by Iruka to be the strongest Hokage of all time (In his prime).

There are so many kage level people in naruto it would take a long time to odo all of it. I would make a list but right now im not in the mood xD.

Well was never stated in manga that is true, although kishimoto said it in one of his interviews "(Namikaze Minato/4th Hokage was never stated to be the strongest Hokage. Correct me if im wrong.)"