Itachi vs Pain

[Retsu]

i said its possible that they were immobilized cos if not they could have come, but they only came after jiraya released it and genjutsu could have still disrupted them they don't have to to somehow teleport in the cube somehow to show that actually works, the paths chakra flow was disturbed and none came to help that might show that they too were immobilized, it doesn't make sense for them all to randomly appear in the cube dude. It might be that they were not in genjutsu or they were but that is up to us to believe.

The frog cube is the Genjutsu, that's like Itachi not knowing he has someone in Tsukiyomi, the cube world is the genjutsu, and yet again, for all we know the pains could have been on the way as soon as the genjutsu was used, Jiraiya had a small talk, and then killed pains bodies, it seriously makes no since for what you just said.

 

[arv993]

izanami

he is merking me he doesn't kno anything and saya stuff like uzumakis can control tailed beast when it only says suppress its chakra and he says crap like he is related to uchiha when there is no proof. If you believe all of that and the other crap he says i seriously hav to nothing to say to u.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

madara is a liar he didnt give him the rinnegan it showed you when he unlocked his rinnegan when his parents died in front of him and he also told sasuke he didnt attack konoha 16 years ago the uzumakis have large chakra reserves and exceptional stamnia that is why they can spam rinnegan techs that is why they can control tailed beasts because the older brother got the eyes and the younger brother got the body and will of fire

right i dont know wether you dont know much about naruto but the uzumakis are related to the senju and the senju is the younger brother and the ucichas are the older brother decendants what is so hard to understand you just argue about anything i say when its the truth

we have no proof that itachi is sasukes brother wheres the dna test to proof it,if all the paths were caught and nagato was caught in genjutsu how was nagato talking through his paths can the paths talk by themselves no there brain dead and ttysukami you have to stand still to use as shown both times hes used it in konoha vs kakashi and vs sasuke he didnt move i research the manga thoroughly so when i talk to people like you i dont get bogged down in there crap i know what im taliking about

look at the episodes 172 it shows him awakening his rinnegan while watching his parents die madara is a liar.Senju are closely related to the uzumaki its all stated in the manga and narutos mother is an uzumaki and he has a tailed beast inside of him right and hashirama a senju could control the 9 tails and other bujuu so im right as usual

Yeah i do avr except the 2nd part begining but that was to proof a point i think its funny seeing an arguement online

 

[arv993]

The frog cube is the Genjutsu, that's like Itachi not knowing he has someone in Tsukiyomi, the cube world is the genjutsu, and yet again, for all we know the pains could have been on the way as soon as the genjutsu was used, Jiraiya had a small talk, and then killed pains bodies, it seriously makes no since for what you just said.

man i never said its definite ok, i am saying that none of the other pains have moved and came when jiraya got them in genjutsu that might say something about the jutsu, the cube is the genjutsu but it does not mean the other's chakra flow has not been disturbed, All jiraya knew was there are 3 pains so its not the same as itachi not knowing who is in tsukiyomi, i am just saying its possible that they all were in genjutsu and had their chakra disturbed since they shared the same sound or maybe not but we have no proof to either side but i just suggested it as a possiblity.

 

[Retsu]

C'mon ppl nobody is murkin nobody, except for Nagato vs. Itachi in this hypothetical fight debate, keep it on subject

 

[arv993]

Yeah i do avr except the 2nd part begining but that was to proof a point i think its funny seeing an arguement online

ok man thats ur opinion about it.

 

[Retsu]

man i never said its definite ok, i am saying that none of the other pains have moved and came when jiraya got them in genjutsu that might say something about the jutsu, the cube is the genjutsu but it does not mean the other's chakra flow has not been disturbed, All jiraya knew was there are 3 pains so its not the same as itachi not knowing who is in tsukiyomi, i am just saying its possible that they all were in genjutsu and had their chakra disturbed since they shared the same sound or maybe not but we have no proof to either side but i just suggested it as a possiblity.

If I hypothetically used this jutsu, I could see who all are under it's effects in the Genjutsu world, and remember the animal path brought the other two paths into the battlen with Jiraiya, presumably because it probably would've taken them awhile to get there, so I highly doubt that, they were immobilized, and anyways, what kind of since would it make for ppl to be affected by the jutsu and not be in the frog cube? I'll tell you myself, it would've made no sense.

 

[arv993]

C'mon ppl nobody is murkin nobody, except for Nagato vs. Itachi in this hypothetical fight debate, keep it on subject

ok so who do u think would win

 

[Kira was Righteous]

ok so who do u think would win

Nagato

 

[arv993]

If I hypothetically used this jutsu, I could see who all are under it's effects in the Genjutsu world, and remember the animal path brought the other two paths into the battle, presumably because it probably would've taken them awhile to get there, so I highly doubt that, they were immobilized, and anyways, what kind of since would it make for ppl to be affected by the jutsu and not be in the frog cube? I'll tell you myself, it would've made no sense.

u may be right man but the paths are different too remember they have linked vision and hearing it may have a weakness(this is one of the possibilities) and jiraya's jutsu is a bit different than others he does not seem to mentally manipulating others like itachi does and its definitely possible he does not kno everyone he has in genjutsu. Anything is possible in naruto man and to me and i find it hard to believe that none of them could come to help them out if they were really not in genjutsu and come right after its released

 

[Retsu]

I think Nagato would win, Nagato 6pop version is a bad matchup for Itachi, he lacks the Stamina to even keep a good defense, and Tuskiyomi is actually bad for Itachi in this fight, seeing as it only last a second in the real world.

Asura path could bombard him with missiles, Deva path can blast away with Shinra tensei, Taijutsu isn't even an option, Itachi may win one on one, but until I see an episode with Nagato in his prime b4 6pop, I don't know, but Nagato 6pop would murder Itachi

 

[mookyuzamaki]

i was gonna say some ish but izAnami gots this alone

 

[Retsu]

u may be right man but the paths are different too remember they have linked vision and hearing it may have a weakness(this is one of the possibilities) and jiraya's jutsu is a bit different than others he does not seem to mentally manipulating others like itachi does and its definitely possible he does not kno everyone he has in genjutsu. Anything is possible in naruto man and to me and i find it hard to believe that none of them could come to help them out if they were really not in genjutsu and come right after its released

Dude, in the anime it said Jiraiya's jutsu was specially made to bind ones Psyche, that is another word for mind, and it can be used on hundreds of ppl, it's made to take out ones mind, that is top notch mental manipulation, and like you just said, their senses of hearing are linked, I think if Kishi would've wanted them under the jutsu's effects, Nagato would've been in that cube

 

[Kira was Righteous]

i was gonna say some ish but izAnami gots this alone

izanamis gone lol he didnt want to speak to him anymore look at the previous pages

 

[arv993]

I think Nagato would win, Nagato 6pop version is a bad matchup for Itachi, he lacks the Stamina to even keep a good defense, and Tuskiyomi is actually bad for Itachi in this fight, seeing as it only last a second in the real world.

Asura path could bombard him with missiles, Deva path can blast away with Shinra tensei, Taijutsu isn't even an option, Itachi may win one on one, but until I see an episode with Nagato in his prime b4 6pop, I don't know, but Nagato 6pop would murder Itachi

maybe. i think itachi becus he is good tactician and if he has info i think he would most likely win. If he gets tendo in genjutsu and immobilizes him(and genjutsu he can do very fast) i think his chances are pretty good. itachi is faster than all the other paths and can get all the other paths in amaterasu which he can send multiple fires from and since it very fast it can get the paths and the only one who can survive is preta and susano's sword is good for that or he can just beat preta with taijutsu and or use genjutsu again. The paths are easy targets to amaterasu if tendo is immobilized(except preta) and if he uses it they won't be able to use their techs and he can also use clones as distractions. Well that is my opinion

 

[mookyuzamaki]

But every one else is good we won lol im like in alot of threads of my own and i have already proved my self no here thats on itachi side never have a counter to

1. Nagato is immune to genjutsu why??

Cuz
a.he has best dojutsu

(madara adna lot of other ppl say it is)

b.has a pain body to block genjutsu

(ino's dad says this in pain arc)


c.has mad jutsu that shit on amertesu and susono

and we seen him counter them in recent manga chapters


d.we all know susono's physical strenght is not as strong as the nine tails

1. We seen naruto get trapped and the nine tails made a whole and he was not even trying to kill naruto but just capture him so if he had the intention to kill him planet dev would have merked him
and knowing this his planet dev merks all


f.

It took the efforts of itachi killer bee and naruto to beat him

nuff said...

 

[Retsu]

maybe. i think itachi becus he is good tactician and if he has info i think he would most likely win. If he gets tendo in genjutsu and immobilizes him(and genjutsu he can do very fast) i think his chances are pretty good. itachi is faster than all the other paths and can get all the other paths in amaterasu which he can send multiple fires from and since it very fast it can get the paths and the only one who can survive is preta and susano's sword is good for that or he can just beat preta with taijutsu and or use genjutsu again. The paths are easy targets to amaterasu if tendo is immobilized(except preta) and if he uses it they won't be able to use their techs and he can also use clones as distractions. Well that is my opinion

I'm not gonna quote with battle type situations because they of all post prove the least amount of info, there are too many variables for one to say how things could or would go in a fight, and plus you forget that Susanoo takes him time to activate and is actually Harmful to Itachi, even if he sealed one pain, he's still going blind from his own techs, and Itachi is fast, but it's not like he's so blazing fast he's untouchable, if he dodged something by jumping in the air, one good Shinra tensei before he can hit the ground and let out Susanoo, and he'd be dead

 

[arv993]

Dude, in the anime it said Jiraiya's jutsu was specially made to bind ones Psyche, that is another word for mind, and it can be used on hundreds of ppl, it's made to take out ones mind, that is top notch mental manipulation, and like you just said, their senses of hearing are linked, I think if Kishi would've wanted them under the jutsu's effects, Nagato would've been in that cube

yes it could have binded their minds but jiraya had no idea about the other ppl and i don't think nagato would just appear in the cube. I just feel like when he said "you got me" he meant it about himself and the fact that nothing happened until he released the jutsu makes me believe that they too were affected but that is my thought on it we can't prove either way, we may see more in the manga about this jutsu so lets wait.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

maybe. i think itachi becus he is good tactician and if he has info i think he would most likely win. If he gets tendo in genjutsu and immobilizes him(and genjutsu he can do very fast) i think his chances are pretty good. itachi is faster than all the other paths and can get all the other paths in amaterasu which he can send multiple fires from and since it very fast it can get the paths and the only one who can survive is preta and susano's sword is good for that or he can just beat preta with taijutsu and or use genjutsu again. The paths are easy targets to amaterasu if tendo is immobilized(except preta) and if he uses it they won't be able to use their techs and he can also use clones as distractions. Well that is my opinion

He cant get tendo with tsyukami you cant its dead it hasnt got a brain it cant be totured mentally or physically(ironic)

 

[natssuu]

As Kabuto said and as we've seen Pain is slow.