Itachi vs Jiraiya

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What if Jiraya has already done that before the fight is even started?
I dont think we are talking about battle with preparations. Besides, even if he had already sealing formula writen, pulling out the scroll and making seals for it would still take too much time, in best case he would end up severly burned.
hands seals for a ninja with 4.5 in hand seals will take less than one second,jutsu emerges immediately.
Not really. Itachi is the only guy who displaed such fast handseals.
 

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hands seals for a ninja with 4.5 in hand seals will take less than one second,jutsu emerges immediately.

ofc not.. kakashi has 5, and kurenai has 4.5 in handseals
and they called itachi's handseal speed superhuman.. he was casting jutus and it looked like he didn';t move a finger..

in the middle of throwing shuriken, he was able to do seals and make a kage bunshin, which amazed sasuke
 

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ofc not.. kakashi has 5, and kurenai has 4.5 in handseals
and they called itachi's handseal speed superhuman.. he was casting jutus and it looked like he didn';t move a finger..

in the middle of throwing shuriken, he was able to do seals and make a kage bunshin, which amazed sasuke
and Kakashi didn't get hit once, well his flak jacket got burnt a bit while he was protecting Kurenai,(remember that this is only two hand seals and Jiraiya's not protecting anybody)

Sasuke was already in Tsukuyomi then.

Insane hand seal is crap as Sakura, Naruto, Chiyo could avoid insane hand seal fireball from Itachi, SAsuke could match insand hand seal fireball of Itachi, Naruto and Bee saw Itachi form clone, nothing he did was 'too fast' for anybody in part 2.

You really believe Itachi will prepare and fire Amaterasu or any technique before a Sannin with 4.5 in seals forms two seals for an instantaneous jutsu when a bird could fly out of Naruto's mouth to Itachi and back to Naruto before he could fire Amaterasu and blood dripped from SAsuke's face to the ground before he could use it against Raikage?
 

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Wow jiriya has so easily lost this argument.

i juts loled at uzumaki16s post fanboyism to the max anyway. not a single jiraya fan has been able to come up with a point that hasn't allready been counterd, and the arguments displayed for him fail miserably

Itachi wins.
I seem to get a new hater every week. :shrug:
 

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Sasuke was already in Tsukuyomi then.
Wrong. Itachi used Tsukuyomi after Sasuke killed the Karasu Bunshin Itachi created during their Shuriken-duel.

Insane hand seal is crap as Sakura, Naruto, Chiyo could avoid insane hand seal fireball from Itachi, SAsuke could match insand hand seal fireball of Itachi, Naruto and Bee saw Itachi form clone, nothing he did was 'too fast' for anybody in part 2.
I don't get your point. Well, there is no point in this statement. His speed of forming seals is insanely fast, I'm inclined to say instant - Gokakyu no Jutsu isn't. That's all. Since neither Kakashi's nor Sasuke's Sharingan were able keep up with his seals when he was doing them at full speed, his seals are insane, and they are too fast. He wasn't doing them at full speed when he fired Gokakyu no Jutsu at Sasuke, since it's a changeless fact that Itachi's seals are faster than Sasuke's. At full speed his seals are faster than any others we saw yet.

You really believe Itachi will prepare and fire Amaterasu or any technique before a Sannin with 4.5 in seals forms two seals for an instantaneous jutsu when a bird could fly out of Naruto's mouth to Itachi and back to Naruto before he could fire Amaterasu and blood dripped from SAsuke's face to the ground before he could use it against Raikage?
Why not? Close your eye, open it - done. Turson already provided enough pictures showing Amaterasu's immediate usage. You're just way too biased to get the fact that Amaterasu requires no seals and can be used without any preparation time. Even if not, what keeps Itachi from just jumping into the air? Nothing.

Any arguments supporting Jiraiya's victory are absoulutely baseless. Just face it.
 

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@FloriGlori SAsuke and Itachi were standing a good distance apart when the illusion ended meaning Itachi never charged at Sasuke and held his hands for the Karasu Bunshin to throw kunia at him and SAsuke never brought snake out from his cursed seal, the Tsukuyomi was at the end of the shuriken duel.

I explained Turson's pics, go back and read it.

its not as simple as blinknig and it takes enough time for two seals to be formed, again read my reply to Turson
 

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and Kakashi didn't get hit once, well his flak jacket got burnt a bit while he was protecting Kurenai,(remember that this is only two hand seals and Jiraiya's not protecting anybody)

Sasuke was already in Tsukuyomi then.

Insane hand seal is crap as Sakura, Naruto, Chiyo could avoid insane hand seal fireball from Itachi, SAsuke could match insand hand seal fireball of Itachi, Naruto and Bee saw Itachi form clone, nothing he did was 'too fast' for anybody in part 2.

You really believe Itachi will prepare and fire Amaterasu or any technique before a Sannin with 4.5 in seals forms two seals for an instantaneous jutsu when a bird could fly out of Naruto's mouth to Itachi and back to Naruto before he could fire Amaterasu and blood dripped from SAsuke's face to the ground before he could use it against Raikage?


Amaterasu requires a close of an eye and open, sometimes that's not even neccesary... Even tobi couldn't activate his s/t jutsu in time, and that doesn't require handseals.. so you think they will get to use hand seals and execute a jutsu all before amaterasu is cast? naw
 

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You need Raikage As speed in order to escape from the Sharingans sight and thus not be hit by Amaterasu. Therefore A used the 2nd stage of his Raiton no Yoroi when Sasuke activated his MS. Neither against Amaterasu nor against Tsukuyomi and Susanoo Jiraiya stands great chances. If I remember how long it took until Jiraiya has reached his Senninmode, Itachi would finish him with his Mangekyou Sharingan already before.

Itachi wins with low difficult.
 

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Amaterasu requires a close of an eye and open, sometimes that's not even neccesary... Even tobi couldn't activate his s/t jutsu in time, and that doesn't require handseals.. so you think they will get to use hand seals and execute a jutsu all before amaterasu is cast? naw
two hand seals, man two hand seals, Amaterasu eye closing is enough time to form two seals and TObi's case was different, it was a sealed technique, lets look at other sealed techniques-
Kisame's hydro prison on Naruto, Bee, Guy, Aoba, Motoi
did the scroll form any seals for the technique and the summoning of the sharks? No, it just happened.
 

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two hand seals, man two hand seals, Amaterasu eye closing is enough time to form two seals and TObi's case was different, it was a sealed technique, lets look at other sealed techniques-
Kisame's hydro prison on Naruto, Bee, Guy, Aoba, Motoi
did the scroll form any seals for the technique and the summoning of the sharks? No, it just happened.

urm no, tobi saw the eyes bleed and everything, he simply COULD not react in time

You have to realize that it's reaction time + hand seals to make up the full time of this process.

what you're going off is if he had instant reaction time, which is impossible.. maybe minato and raikage A could pull that off .. but normal ninja? no.. not even tobi could do that
 
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