Itachi vs Jiraiya

[Owarij]

Digital monster ftw 0.0

yea itachi simply gets rid of jiraya before he gets into sm.....
His summons will do NOTHING, because sharingan can control them... sasuke controlled manda a boss summon... so jirayas little summons and gamabunta will be useless.... , which means jiraya can't buy time to get into sage mode, now he has to deal with his summons + itachi attacking him...., There is just no way jiraya wins this, he isn't getting into sage mode, and in base he isn't dodging amaterasu , he doesn't have the speed/reflexes nothing.....and A saw sasuke's eyes and prepared to dodge, if jiraya isn't looking at itachi's eyes ... what would he do? just "KNOW" he's about to cast amaterasu? , /sigh, its ridiculous to think jiraya the man who said his weakness was genjutsu can defeat him, when his genius rival the man with a 5 in genjutsu databooks , got 1 paneled by itachi....

And lets say jiraya was to get into sage mode, what good would it do? he'd be confident that he could break genjutsu now that ma and pa are on his shoulders, but Itachi's tsukyomi can't be canceled.... it leaves no time to be canceled.... it happens

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, which i would say is maybe 1 second tops...


And then we have sussanoo... sigh its likely itachi even needs to go this far.. but jirayas frontal attacks like his big ball rasengans and his oil/fire jutsu are all going to be simply reflected by Yata mirror



So lets look at all the points
- All jirayas summonings even

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will turn on him and be controlled by itachi



-Jirayas attacks are all useless against Sussano/yata mirror

-Jiraya is going up against someone who

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and is on a tier of his own


This matchup is just absolutely ridiculous..... Itachi must be the worst possible matchup Jiraya COULD ever have , hes' going against his very weakness , and the things he's known for (Frog summonings) are alll going to play a major role in HIS death

 

[hgngr]

Digital monster ftw 0.0

yea itachi simply gets rid of jiraya before he gets into sm.....
His summons will do NOTHING, because sharingan can control them... sasuke controlled manda a boss summon... so jirayas little summons and gamabunta will be useless.... , which means jiraya can't buy time to get into sage mode, now he has to deal with his summons + itachi attacking him...., There is just no way jiraya wins this, he isn't getting into sage mode, and in base he isn't dodging amaterasu , he doesn't have the speed/reflexes nothing.....and A saw sasuke's eyes and prepared to dodge, if jiraya isn't looking at itachi's eyes ... what would he do? just "KNOW" he's about to cast amaterasu? , /sigh, its ridiculous to think jiraya the man who said his weakness was genjutsu can defeat him, when his genius rival the man with a 5 in genjutsu databooks , got 1 paneled by itachi

And lets say jiraya was to get into sage mode, what good would it do? he'd be confident that he could break genjutsu now that ma and pa are on his shoulders, but Itachi's tsukyomi can't be canceled.... it leaves no time to be canceled.... it happens

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, which i would say is maybe 1 second tops...

thats it.
itachi

 

[Monkey d garp]

only retards think j-man can beat itachi ,itachi is his worst match up and way too smart and i know some fools will say even itachi said he couldn´t beat j-man but he only said that because he don´t wanted to kill j-man and to have a excuse for kisame

 

[Orochimaruwantsyourbody]

Lol digitalmonster is jiraiya and minato fans worst nightmare

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Jiriaya does not behave like a genius. He will most likely not make an immediate tactical retreat for Hermit Mode, as Gamaken was simply

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, and Jiriaya is the guy who hopped on

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to fight him. He will most likely not make a combat team of Kage Bunshin when it would have

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instead of using one as a momentary distraction. On the other hand, Itachi most likely will use genjutsu, and his Mangekyō Sharingan techniques, which Jiraiya can't answer to. Jiraiya needs to be smarter than Itachi to have a chance of winning... but he's not.[/COLOR]​

My favorite part,people often tend to ignore the truth.​

 

[Lankeysob]

Itachi would win if Jiraiya can't manage to make it into sage mode in time IMO.

 

[Darkakatsuki]

It is pretty darn obvious who wins here, Itachi is the undisputed master of genjutsu alongside shisui and genjutsu is Jiraya's weakness, Tsukiyomi can put someone with a sharingan like kakashi in an almost permanent coma in literally one second in the real world and 72 hours inside the genjutsu, it can't be dispelled, only another uchiha (sasuke) has dispelled it so far and we all know the real reason that happened, Itachi never intended to kill him, was sick, and on top of that was also holding back.

And then there is ninjutsu, so far we have only seen Itachi use fire and water jutsu (against kakashi) but it is plainly obvious that he probably knows other elements too, given the sharingan's automatic copy abilities, and beside he will see through everything that jiraya throws at him with his sharingan like he did against the jutsu obsessed orochimaru.

Speed, itachi is super fast and. On top of that has the sharingan that grants him the ability to see the opponent's movements in slow motion, so jiraya loses.

Jiraiya might overpower him in sage mode, but from what we saw from madara and sasuke, and even itachi, sasuno'o is super fast and super strong, in fact, tobi verbally confirmed this himself, not to mention the yata mirror and the sword of totsuka that make itachi invincibe ( as long as he still has chakra to burn of course).

Jiraiya has. No chance here, he is cleanly defeated and that frog song won't work for obvious reasons that I don't think need to be explained, it didn't even work on pein ( yes I dare to say that).

Jiraiya described that genjutsu after he caught the 3 paths in it as a BARRIER type genjutsu, and we have seen proof on two occasions that the rinnegan grants the user the ability to SEE through barriers and visualize the barrier itself, so why wouldn't he have been able to see through Jiraiya's BARRIER type genjutsu.

You might ask why he didn't break through it and let the paths die if he could see through it?

Well, Fukasaku admitted it to Jiraiya and ma himself that they were tricked, he said that the pain saw through their plan because the other paths had already been summoned before he fell for the 3 paths fell for the genjutsu, and that they were tricked into letting their guard down.
Further substantiated by asura's words when he appeared behind Jiraiya.

Jiraiya did not defeat animal, human, and preta, pain INTENTIONALLY allowed Jiraiya to kill them as a strategic move so that he could catch Jiraiya off guard with asura, and the reason for that is because it was hard for pain to get a critical injury because jiraiya kept running away into the tunnels throughout the battle.

Ok, that was off topic, anyway Jiraiya would lose badly, the only injuries itachi would sustain are probably self inflicted with the overuse of the mangyeko, otherwise this battle is done for, especially if you consider the fact that itachi would be able to control Jiraiya's main source of power, his summons, just like sasuke controlled manda with his regular sharingan.

This by no means implies that Jiraiya is weak, not at all, but this is just a horrible matchup that's all.

 

[Lord Snow]

Itachi with very high difficulty.

 

[Vexorian]

Itachi's genjutsu are single target to kick this off. What would stop J-Man from biding his time with clones while hiding and entering sage mode, seeing as how Jiraiya is an excellent stealth ninja. Once J-Man enters HM, it's game on!

 

[mishu90]

Itachi

 

[Owarij]

lawl who revived this O.O

 

[Turson]

lawl who revived this O.O

Some retard who has problems with writing more than one word.

 

[Paintachi]

itachi wins

 

[Paintachi]

well some people only lean at the manga page where itachi admitted a stalemate
but remember when he said that?

1: He said that when he was sick and his eye sight already was damaged
2: Itachi all the way, pretty much jiraiya is one of the three sannin BUT remember the is a dunce(naruto like) hes also had 50+ years to work on it, but the Sharingan eye Mk or not are simple put the tie breaking!! Itachi is an uchiha of the highest level besides he's sharingan he pocess great talents in every combat way only his stamin is below average, (losing to Sasuke was due to his choice not kill him i am not even talking about that he was sick) if itachi is in his prime he would work jiriya sage mode or not.. This is due to sage modes abilities for only enhancing ones senses and physical strengths.. and the summons thing is correct way to slow for an actual hand to hand battle.. The Sharingan Eyes allow one to precive anothers movements and counter at any cost and with a dodge or an attack, also saving chakara in doing so.. so hand to hand = Itachi, um.. what else is there for jiriya then Rasengan? no too slow, fire? Uchiha's are fire!! oh yeah and Susannoo undeated plus sword of sealing, Amaterasu only few people are fast enough as the Raikage or the flash of the leaf, and Tsukuyomi = genjestu that no one can compare too!! even a second would mess up jiraiyas day... Itachi bro!!

Plus think of this: just food for thought, if Orochimaru wasnt even par or even close to par with Itachi, Then what in gods name makes anyone think jiraiya would have a better chance... Jiraiya couldnt even save Orochimaru. I am not flaming jiraiya fans but really think about it a healthy itachi will finally win from jiraiya
when were talking about a healthy itachi the victory is close to itachi's side.

 

[Splendid Ninja]

jiraiya will win from itachi's situation at the time when he admitted that ''stalemate thingy''but i dont think jiriaya can easily bring down itachi at full (healthy power.

 

[zabuzamistboy]

This again, give up ya'll. Its Itachi FTW!!!

 

[Thewhiteflash]

well some people only lean at the manga page where itachi admitted a stalemate
but remember when he said that?

1: He said that when he was sick and his eye sight already was damaged
2: Itachi all the way, pretty much jiraiya is one of the three sannin BUT remember the is a dunce(naruto like) hes also had 50+ years to work on it, but the Sharingan eye Mk or not are simple put the tie breaking!! Itachi is an uchiha of the highest level besides he's sharingan he pocess great talents in every combat way only his stamin is below average, (losing to Sasuke was due to his choice not kill him i am not even talking about that he was sick) if itachi is in his prime he would work jiriya sage mode or not.. This is due to sage modes abilities for only enhancing ones senses and physical strengths.. and the summons thing is correct way to slow for an actual hand to hand battle.. The Sharingan Eyes allow one to precive anothers movements and counter at any cost and with a dodge or an attack, also saving chakara in doing so.. so hand to hand = Itachi, um.. what else is there for jiriya then Rasengan? no too slow, fire? Uchiha's are fire!! oh yeah and Susannoo undeated plus sword of sealing, Amaterasu only few people are fast enough as the Raikage or the flash of the leaf, and Tsukuyomi = genjestu that no one can compare too!! even a second would mess up jiraiyas day... Itachi bro!!

Plus think of this: just food for thought, if Orochimaru wasnt even par or even close to par with Itachi, Then what in gods name makes anyone think jiraiya would have a better chance... Jiraiya couldnt even save Orochimaru. I am not flaming jiraiya fans but really think about it a healthy itachi will finally win from jiraiya
when were talking about a healthy itachi the victory is close to itachi's side.

pretty much this ^^

but i also want to add
if you look at the feats that itachi will just win besides his stamina

 

[Lilt]

I don't see any objective reason to believe Jiraiya can get past Itachi's genjutsu or speed at this point. Sage Jiriaya would be able to keep up and push Itachi to use Susano'o, but base Jiriaya?

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[Eye Of Dajjal]

the arguments for itachi are too good.
there is no arguments for jiraya

itachi wins mid difficulty

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

the reason why this thread is not popular like the other itachi vs jiraiya thread its because digital monster post, which trample all over the itachi haters and j-man fanboy base LOL

 

[Eye Of Dajjal]

Pro-Itachi Argument

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Actions speak louder than words: you don't turn your back on someone that

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to use your exhausting trump-card genjutsu,

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, on a broken genin (although that is something that someone that stomped Jiriaya's genius-rival

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might do...) We know Itachi has

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to Kisame about the hype he gave Jiraiya that

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his previous statement, and Kisame even

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himself. So between ridiculously false hype and databook stat totals, which are a staple argument of Jiriaya fans because Itachi has the most maximum scores of any ninja, whereas Jiraiya has very few maximum scores.Now we can move on to... Feats-stuff.

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First, if Jiraiya summon an army on top of Ma and Pa, Itachi can dodge a toad army all day

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who

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. Secondly, Itachi has

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to manipulate multiple targets, or he control summons with the Sharingan power that Minato needed a

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placed on the controller to counter. Sasuke directly stated that

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, but that it was stronger than his own at the time, being able to control the Nine Tails. It is the same ability, according to the databook, and common misnomer is that the power is an illusion, or that the summons are being tricked, is incorrect. The databook and Manda indicate that it isn't a trick, but a raw control:



As for the hyped Food Cart Destroyer or Yomi Numa for that matter, please note: Jiriaya said that his senbon technique was his

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i.e. his hardest jutsu to evade. The databook text of Food Cart Destroyer does say "right above". However, it means right above as "in a straight line above". The Japanese word is 真上 (ma-ue). There is no implication of distance, other than the mentioned several hundred-foot dive. This is why it has only ever been used on giant creatures, and not tiny ninja, because the ninja have a great deal more time to react. Moreover, the Sharingan determines the

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of a technique, and would see it coming. Moreover, Jiriaya, like Killer Bee, is an

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, and if by some miracle he achieves Hermit Mode, Itachi is able to

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to kill Jiraiya since their willpower is almost certainly less than the Nine Tailed Fox. But lets say Jiraiya starts in Hermit Mode, and that Itachi can't control Fukasaku to remove Jiriaya's head.

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Jiriaya's detection barrier is a banner for pro-Jiriaya arguers, but they frequently ignore that Jiraiya himself said that

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and without knowing

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he has to do what everyone has had to do. Either not look at Itachi at all, or look at Itachi's eyes (

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.) Having inferior intellect and knowledge of genjutsu to Orochimaru will come in handy here. But if Ma and Pa, who aren't being controlled for plot reasons, break him out, realize that it still took time for

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to break weaker genjutsu, and even

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However, Jiriaya might as well instantly reflect all of Itachi's genjutsu back on to Itachi for all the good it will do him against the rest of Itachi's arsenal.

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There are some key things everybody ignores about this feat. The Raikage spent time

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for a shunshin that Karin and C noticed. Secondly, the Raikage was tipped off by

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. Neither of these are likely for Jiraiya who will probably be

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. As a tertiary point, it's highly unlikely that Jiraiya can even match A's ushrouded reflexes. And as a quaternary point, Itachi's Amaterasu burns

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than Sasuke's thus far, and was activated while running at full speed towards a wall five feet away. And then, his ultimate jutsu:

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It's a common mistake to assume Susano'o is a primarily defensive jutsu. It's not. The databook first and foremost hypes the

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that presumably surpasses his other two techniques. It caught Orochimaru in between words, right in front of him, without him even noticing, when other speed demons get

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off. Kakashi and Danzō had to use instant jutsu to deflect Susano'o attacks because they were so fast, and Sasuke only recently attained

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of Susano'o, which the author decided was a power-up to save for later. If Jiraiya is in the vicinity when it's activated, or if he thinks he break through it, then he's dead. It's also the best defensive jutsu in the manga, changing nature and shape to allegedly counter any jutsu.

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Jiriaya does not behave like a genius. He will most likely not make an immediate tactical retreat for Hermit Mode, as Gamaken was simply

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, and Jiriaya is the guy who hopped on

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to fight him. He will most likely not make a combat team of Kage Bunshin when it would have

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instead of using one as a momentary distraction. On the other hand, Itachi most likely will use genjutsu, and his Mangekyō Sharingan techniques, which Jiraiya can't answer to. Jiraiya needs to be smarter than Itachi to have a chance of winning... but he's not.​

+ major reps.

everything in this post is truth